To want my pay rise ASAP

[namechange38582]

Name change as suspect I will be flamed!

Basically work in the public sector where we have had pay freezes followed by 1% increases for the last decade. Last year we managed a 2% increase. Every single year the union has argued for more and would not agree to the point we didn't receive our 2% increase until March so got all our increase for the year in one pay. This meant many people like myself paid a lot more national insurance than if it was even throughout the year. Also to point out not once has the union managed to increase what we are offered.

I am not anti union at all and think they have helped in particular what we have been offered this year but feel the agreement needs to be sped up now. We have with the influence of the Union been offered arguably a better deal than expected by many employees. Basically a set figure added to every band so for those on the lowest band it is actually a 10% increase and those on the highest a 2%.

People are struggling now with increase bills and yet again the organisations and union won't agree. The next meeting is apparently October. I just think this is unfair to do every year but even more so with the current situation.

[Rutland2022]

Similar situation here, I’m in HE. It’s 9% at the bottom and 3% for most. I need that 3%! It was agreed for 1 Aug but not implemented yet because the unions are balloting for strike. Some institutions have paid it already but not mine. Arseholes.

[mrsfollowill]

I'm in the same boat- but I am a union member. Just yesterday I received a ballot paper to vote yes or no to this deal. Very unusually, UNISON have not made any 'recommendation' about which way to vote - they point out that yes it's the best deal we have ever been offered but it is still under the rate of inflation. That is it though- we are usually told not to accept the first offer.
I've personally voted to accept it and will post by ballot paper off this morning.
people need the money now. Better 9% now than maybe 11% in a years time.
No doubt it will be funded by 'efficiencies' and I'll be doing the job of 3 people (instead of 2 as I am at the moment) in 12 months time.

[LadyCatStark]

Yep I’m in the same boat. I’m a HLTA and we always get our “pay rise” as a lump sum at the end of the year, if we get one at all that is. I don’t even know if we’re getting one this year as I can only find the information for teachers.

[yanxy]

you shouldn't have paid more NI though?

[yanxy]

i agree better to have the money now though

[nicknamehelp]

I work in private sector no union and can go 3 years plus with no rise and boss when asked to review my pay keeps putting it off. So I have little sympathy for those who moan their yearly pay rise isn't enough

[Lochjeda]

@nicknamehelp just because you are willing to put up with shitty pay and work terms doesn't mean everyone else should just lump it. Salaries should increase annually each tax year.

[yanxy]

@nicknamehelp I worked for yrs in the private sector but wanted a better pension so moved to public.

[PupInAPram]

@Lochjeda

@nicknamehelp just because you are willing to put up with shitty pay and work terms doesn't mean everyone else should just lump it. Salaries should increase annually each tax year.

It's njc so GMB, Unison and Unite. Njc asked for flat £2000 pa, employers offered £1925 pa. Unison and GMB are consulting members, Unite flat turned it down without consulting their members. So yes, I resent Unite doing this and yes, people need the money now, not next fecking spring.

[namechange38582]

@yanxy

you shouldn't have paid more NI though?

Someone correct me if I am wrong but as far as I am aware it does mean you pay more. I only realised this when I was on maternity. Your NI is worked out monthly so if your earnings for the year is say £10,000 over 12 months you would pay very little NI. If however you work for one month and earnt £10,000 then no longer worked the rest of the year you would still be paying the % for that one month and hence pay a lot more. If that makes sense?

[Huckleberries73]

Incredibly shortsighted and really not grasping what the unions are doing here!
ffs, without unions there’s a massive likelihood of no pay increases.

the unions are working TIRELESSLY on pay campaigns.
apart from complaining about it, have you actually gotten involved???


the waste guys here just took the hit in pay and took strike action leading to an enhanced offer from the Scottish government that everyone in local government benefits from. And that impact will impact on better pension provision for everyone for years and years.

we are fighting hard every single bloody day, every day, and you are complaining about it???? I fecking despair.

[yanxy]

You would pay more NI because your salary went up

[Huckleberries73]

And it’s the government and the employer holding up talks, Not us.

[MuggleMe]

On NI, it's averaged, but at the end of the financial year they look again and sort it out if you've over/under paid.

[TabithaTittlemouse]

I think the union’s are right to not let it drop. Can you honestly not see that it would be better in the long run?

[oneOff12]

What sector are you in?

[Connie2468]

@nicknamehelp

I work in private sector no union and can go 3 years plus with no rise and boss when asked to review my pay keeps putting it off. So I have little sympathy for those who moan their yearly pay rise isn't enough

There are children working down mines in Congo so not sure why you believe you should get a pay review at all?

[Ffsmakeitstop]

My dd works for the la and because she got paid her lump sum in march as per op she paid an extra large sum to her uni loan and it confused her mortgage application.
I think we should accept whatever we are given atm. If we don't it will cause more unemployment. If they're not willing to give more then they won't. As a pp says it will be dealt with by "efficiencies.

[PowerHits]

@yanxy

you shouldn't have paid more NI though?

We paid more this year as by the time we got paid the NI rates had changed, it was charged at the rate is was paid in not when it was earned. Some LA's ran an early payroll to avoid this.

[namechange38582]

@TabithaTittlemouse

I think the union’s are right to not let it drop. Can you honestly not see that it would be better in the long run?

The Unions have done a great job with what has been put on the table already. Past this point our employer for over the last decade has never budged on the offer. It's just back and forth now for the next 6 months.

[namechange38582]

@yanxy

You would pay more NI because your salary went up

I work part time so not so much

[namechange38582]

@MuggleMe

On NI, it's averaged, but at the end of the financial year they look again and sort it out if you've over/under paid.

I don't think they do. When I was on maternity pay I paid normal for first few months then went onto statutory/no pay. I never got a penny back despite my income being lower than the threshold. I did get tax back.

[MsPincher]

@Lochjeda

@nicknamehelp just because you are willing to put up with shitty pay and work terms doesn't mean everyone else should just lump it. Salaries should increase annually each tax year.

That doesn’t happen anywhere except public sector

[topcat2014]

NI is not calculated on a cumulative basis.

Potentially a lump sum in one month could lead to more NI than paying it monthly.

Depends really.

Some higher earners would pay a bit less

[Connie2468]

@MsPincher

That doesn’t happen anywhere except public sector

Yes it does. Lots of jobs have annual pay reviews.