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Are you a HSP? Highly sensitive person?

369 replies

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 15:26

Apparently 20% of people are classified as a highly sensitive person.

I'm certain I fit the criteria but do any of you?

Is there a way to get absolute clarification?

Do you just accept that's how you are or have you been able to change aspects so you are not as highly sensitive to certain things?

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PonyPatter44 · 01/09/2022 21:30

Purely drawing on my own experiences, HSP seems to be a cynical mirror of Histrionic Personality Disorder.

whumpthereitis · 01/09/2022 21:56

PonyPatter44 · 01/09/2022 21:30

Purely drawing on my own experiences, HSP seems to be a cynical mirror of Histrionic Personality Disorder.

That thought occurred to me too. Apparently 1% of the population have Histrionic/dramatic personality disorder, yet it’s not quite the type of special that many will be rushing to claim.

Rogue1001MNer · 01/09/2022 22:04

This thread is why mn is fantastic 💕💕💕

X6hfyib4ms · 01/09/2022 22:11

Has anyone questioned how sensible it is for someone with HSP posting on AIBU yet?

gnilliwdog · 01/09/2022 22:19

@NumberTheory I'm not an expert, and don't really want to be as it's not really relevant to me. I'm not into shouting people down, though. The evolutionary trait suggests some people might be in a hyper aware state in the environment, assessing danger and resources for survival. I suppose being in that very alert state could eventually lead to exhaustion. The art appreciation seems to be linked to a reactive CNS, producing a strong response to stimuli. However, you'd be better off listening to people who experience all this as I think I'm off to watch The Walking Dead.

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:25

X6hfyib4ms · 01/09/2022 22:11

Has anyone questioned how sensible it is for someone with HSP posting on AIBU yet?

Yes, me.

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Crankley · 01/09/2022 22:27

Save us from snowflakes.

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:27

MargaretThursday · 01/09/2022 21:11

How do you know you feel on a much deeper level? You can't tell how others feel.

Don't you mean you make more fuss about how you're feeling?

A bit like when I took dd to A&E with agonising stomach ache (at the GP's suggestion), she said 9/10 on the pain scale. Ds had 2/10 on the pain scale.
Dd's recovered at the sight of chocolate ice cream. Ds had his appendix removed.
Who made more fuss... who had more pain...

No because I don't make a fuss. It's all internalised.

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KrisAkabusi · 01/09/2022 22:33

The evolutionary trait suggests some people might be in a hyper aware state in the environment, assessing danger and resources for survival. I suppose being in that very alert state could eventually lead to exhaustion

That's not how evolution works. If people are 'hyper aware' to the point of exhaustion, they are less likely to pass on the genes for this, so the trait would die out.

martinsmoneysaver · 01/09/2022 22:37

mattressspring · 01/09/2022 15:30

If you are going to copy and paste at least credit your source

why? this is mumsnet not an essay

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:38

dworky · 01/09/2022 18:49

Lots of highly insensitive people have been triggered by this thread 😁

The reaction of people on this thread is very interesting. I'm interested in differing views and opinions but I just don't get why some people have a tendency to do so with a mean streak.

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martinsmoneysaver · 01/09/2022 22:40

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 15:34

Sorry! I just googled it and took one of the links from the top and I can't find which one now. I'll keep searching and post the link if I can find it - should have done that in the first place!

don't pander to wankers on the Internet.
you do not need to credit your 'source' google on a chat forum. @HSP2022

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 22:48

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:27

No because I don't make a fuss. It's all internalised.

In which case it’s highly likely that everyone is experiencing art deeply and everyone is affected by abhorrent violence. They’re just affected quietly, like you.

Sometimes I think this is part of the issue - people have trouble understanding that literally everybody has the same depth of internal life they have themselves.

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:50

How do you know everyone has the same depth of understanding?

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bringincrazyback · 01/09/2022 22:51

OP, ignore the shitty responses.

Some people don't seem to realise it's possible to have a personality trait without being a snowflake or a brat or thinking it makes one special.

I consider myself an HSP for all sorts of reasons. I don't consider it makes me special, I don't use it to demand special treatment, and I don't use it to excuse bad behaviour. I do, however, find it helpful to know this is a researched and documented trait that others share, and which has positive as well as negative sides.

Some people just can't seem to stand the fact that people are not all the same as them.

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 22:52

HSP2022 · 01/09/2022 22:50

How do you know everyone has the same depth of understanding?

Well it stands to reason that the grand majority is affected by ‘abhorrent violence.’ Otherwise we wouldn’t bother putting it on the news. We wouldn’t call it abhorrent. It’s likely that most of us are affected by music and the arts, because it’s widely talked about. For kids and young teens they sometimes have this weirdly self absorbed idea that they are the only one who really feels, but most of us adults understand that everyone has a deep internal life. Other people aren’t 2-D extras in the life of the super special HSP.

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 22:52

And I didn’t say people have the same understanding - I said they all have the same depth of internal life.

Sometimeswinning · 01/09/2022 23:07

Well I took the test and scored 8. I wasn't sure if I had a rich inner life. I need this dumbing down a bit, but then I guess that explains that I'm not a HSP. I'd have understood on a deeper level. Back to being shallow and enjoying violence I guess!

eggcustard1 · 01/09/2022 23:29

Eastangular2000 · 01/09/2022 15:29

It's a ridiculous made up concept for people who feel the need to consider themselves special in some way.

There is science that demonstrates HSP brains are different in several ways. It has also been detected in many species of animals. I don't believe I know people that are HSP and the overwhelm they experience, and subsequent exhaustion through being over stimulated, is very real.

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 23:34

eggcustard1 · 01/09/2022 23:29

There is science that demonstrates HSP brains are different in several ways. It has also been detected in many species of animals. I don't believe I know people that are HSP and the overwhelm they experience, and subsequent exhaustion through being over stimulated, is very real.

What science? I’d be genuinely interested in science that proves how there are special HSP who can appreciate art on a deeper level? Just because I’d love to know how they measured that.

eggcustard1 · 01/09/2022 23:36

delete the 'I don't believe' bit in post above! 🙂

Eastangular2000 · 01/09/2022 23:36

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 23:34

What science? I’d be genuinely interested in science that proves how there are special HSP who can appreciate art on a deeper level? Just because I’d love to know how they measured that.

This! Of course there is science around peoples physical sensitivity and reactivity. Indeed, concepts such as hyper vigilance are fairly well established, but as the pp says I would love to see the science that has detected deeper appreciation of art and music in animal species

eggcustard1 · 01/09/2022 23:41

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 23:34

What science? I’d be genuinely interested in science that proves how there are special HSP who can appreciate art on a deeper level? Just because I’d love to know how they measured that.

It has involved brain scans showing differences in for instance the mirror neurons that are believed to govern empathy. I did some research around this a few years ago. People considered to have HSP have physical differences in their brains.

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 23:43

Eastangular2000 · 01/09/2022 23:36

This! Of course there is science around peoples physical sensitivity and reactivity. Indeed, concepts such as hyper vigilance are fairly well established, but as the pp says I would love to see the science that has detected deeper appreciation of art and music in animal species

Oh of course. I’ve seen studies where peoples reactivity and such had been measured. I have a son who is autistic so am very interested in those types of things - that’s why I was interested to know what sort of science this was. How could they measure how deeply one appreciates art? How do they set a control for that? How do they choose subjects? Because anyone who signs up for an art study will likely be very interested in art, therefore skewing the results. How do they measure who ‘hears’ the music and who ‘feels’ it? I’d be interested to know, truly, because I’d just love to see how such a study would be organised.

Kanaloa · 01/09/2022 23:45

eggcustard1 · 01/09/2022 23:41

It has involved brain scans showing differences in for instance the mirror neurons that are believed to govern empathy. I did some research around this a few years ago. People considered to have HSP have physical differences in their brains.

But what study was it? Could you link so I could have a look? How were these people determined to ‘have HSP?’ How were the subjects gathered? How did the brain scans confirm that those people, for example, appreciated art on a deeper level than the control subjects who were not considered to ‘have HSP?’

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