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To think that it's time to end the reliance on fossil fuels?

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malificent7 · 26/08/2022 22:20

I mean it's not going to happen overnight but given the current situation it's a good option.

Not only are the prices prohibitive but they trash the planet for profit.

Renewables and more frugal energy use are the way forward.

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sst1234 · 26/08/2022 22:55

Maybe you missed the bit where the lack of reliance on home grown fossil fuels has landed us in this mess. Sorry OP, you’re not coming up with some virtuous yet genius answer there with a vague statement like this.

By the way a tiny country run Northern Europe ending its dependence on fossil fuels isn’t going to cut it. China has over 3000 coal power plants and is responsible for more than 50% of new coal plants globally in 2021.

What we need in the short term is to ramp up North Sea production and bring some Shale online. In the medium term, we need 3-4 Sizewell C sized nuclear plants and time the full switch to renewables to coincide with the nuclear plants coming to end of their life. Of course no one wants to hear this but now terrified of energy costs because we have a supply problem.

Randomword6 · 26/08/2022 22:59

Yes we do need to end our reliance on Fossil fuels URGENTLY. Its great that someone's posting about this, terrifying that the post about squash for toddlers had 100 posts, this had one.

wonderstuff · 26/08/2022 23:00

I can’t believe we haven’t done more already. I must admit I’ve been quite anti nuclear, but now I’m very on the fence.

The earth is literally on fire and we can’t afford to continue with ff in any sense. Tidal seems to make the most sense in the UK, not sure why we’re not doing more. Read that several solar farm applications have been turned down recently?

Applebark · 26/08/2022 23:04

The time to end fossil fuels was 20 years ago but no-one wanted to listen then.

Rinatinabina · 26/08/2022 23:07

www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/how-much-uks-energy-renewable

this seems positive

PasTropCher · 26/08/2022 23:08

malificent7 · 26/08/2022 22:20

I mean it's not going to happen overnight but given the current situation it's a good option.

Not only are the prices prohibitive but they trash the planet for profit.

Renewables and more frugal energy use are the way forward.

We already are. The UK’s carbon footprint per- capita has halved over the last decade, and is now below that of China. We continue to make rapid improvements year-on-year, and are right up there among leading nations in terms of our response to the climate crisis.

We’re likely to see some good numbers over the coming year because of the increase in energy costs, which will see many people reducing overall usage.

The net-zero target is still ambitious, but it’s possible, and we should be proud of how far we’ve come already.

amicissimma · 26/08/2022 23:09

We have to an extent. Much of our manufacturing is outsourced to places like China who we can criticise for their fossil fuel use producing goods and shipping them to us.

PasTropCher · 26/08/2022 23:13

amicissimma · 26/08/2022 23:09

We have to an extent. Much of our manufacturing is outsourced to places like China who we can criticise for their fossil fuel use producing goods and shipping them to us.

Only 16% of China’s carbon footprint is attributable to their external markets.

Your point is a really popular one amongs those who want to bash the UK, but it’s unequivocally false.

FinanceLPlates · 26/08/2022 23:15

By definition, we can only “spend” fossil fuel once. When it’s gone it’s gone.
That alone should give us pause and make us invest in different forms of energy production. The U.K. seems ideally placed to be a world leader in tidal energy technology - why isn’t this happening?
And why does U.K. housing still have such appalling quality standards? Proper insulation, as well as built-in protection from too much heat, have been standard for decades in many other European countries. Why do U.K. developers get away with building boxes that are barely fit for purpose?

Funinthemud · 26/08/2022 23:15

The government have invested in some of the world's largest off shore wind farms

As well as new nuclear power plants

Coming off fossil fuels is not an easy option, they are normally cheap and readily avaliable

But that's the long term plan

You are not saying anythings that has not been said already, you just under estimate the size cost and complexity behind it

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