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aibu to be pisswd off that the world's ills haven't been fixed yet?

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wenevernewthis · 25/08/2022 20:09

When I was a child I was just so sure that all the children in Africa would have clean water, all of the animals In the rainforest would be protected and all of the litter bugs would be eradicated by the time I was grown.

Now I am grown and things seem positively worse than they were in the 90s, when I was a child.

I genuinely can't believe that things are still going south. Why oh why are we still destroying everything we touch?

Now I'm listening to my own children ask me the same questions and I just feel so... so cheated.

And to top it all off, I'm addicted to my smartphone and use it as a substitution for human contact.
A problem I couldn't have conceived of when I was a child.

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TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:17

Thing is, for every thread like this you'll see five threads worrying about impending energy costs in the UK this winter. Average person is more worried about this then the plight of little Kenyatta in Zambia.

Trivester · 25/08/2022 21:18

I think it’s because the sociopaths rise to the top of business and politics. In democratic countries we vote from a choice of sociopaths, and in other countries they just dispense with the voting part altogether.

lucysnowe2 · 25/08/2022 21:21

Child morality globally has declined from 12.6 million in 1990 to 5 million in 2020!

www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/levels-and-trends-in-child-under-5-mortality-in-2020

"Healthy life expectancy in the African region has increased on average by 10 years per person between 2000 and 2019"

reliefweb.int/report/world/healthy-life-expectancy-africa-rises-almost-ten-years

Global leaders and African heads of state have managed to rally over $4 billion of funding towards the global effort to end malaria and neglected tropical diseases

reliefweb.int/report/world/africa-leads-ground-breaking-commitments-end-malaria-and-neglected-tropical-diseases-2030

South Nigeria has successfully eliminated maternal and neonatal tetanus. thanks to increased vaccination rates and skilled birth attendees.

apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/360545/WER9729-eng-fre.pdf

Ghana, Kenya, and Malawi will expand their rollout of a malaria vaccine for children, thanks to newly announced funding of nearly US$160 million.

www.afro.who.int/news/historic-funding-expand-roll-out-first-ever-malaria-vaccine-africa

The proportion of the global population using safely managed drinking water services increased from 61 per cent in 2000 to 71 per cent in 2017.

unstats.un.org/sdgs/report/2020/goal-06/

A LOT needs to be done! progress is likely slow in some areas! But some progress has been made.

lucysnowe2 · 25/08/2022 21:22

I got most of these stats from www.futurecrunch.com/ btw.

lucysnowe2 · 25/08/2022 21:23

'mortality', not 'morality' oc!

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 21:26

TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:17

Thing is, for every thread like this you'll see five threads worrying about impending energy costs in the UK this winter. Average person is more worried about this then the plight of little Kenyatta in Zambia.

Well some are. It’s not something I’m going to lose any sleep over. People can surely just spend the winter months down in Antibes or Cap Ferrat if gas here keeps going up.

Farmageddon · 25/08/2022 21:26

Because humans, that's why. We are inherently selfish and have short attention spans.

TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:32

StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 21:26

Well some are. It’s not something I’m going to lose any sleep over. People can surely just spend the winter months down in Antibes or Cap Ferrat if gas here keeps going up.

Yup, just tell my boss I'll be spending the winter in France but to keep up my salary payments. 👍

Steakandquinoa · 25/08/2022 21:32

It does make me sad that we don’t seam to be able to learn from the past. And the lack of forward planning by the government.

Georgeskitchen · 25/08/2022 21:32

Ask charities like Children in need, Oxfam, Save the children and all.the rest where all the £££ millions goes?

wenevernewthis · 25/08/2022 21:33

Trivester · 25/08/2022 21:18

I think it’s because the sociopaths rise to the top of business and politics. In democratic countries we vote from a choice of sociopaths, and in other countries they just dispense with the voting part altogether.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. the big people old men usually tend to have the power and they don't seem to be able to fucking usw it right.

like we have seen a decrease in smoking so they just brought out vapes. Big plastic fucking cigarettes. We just seem to swap badness. not stop badness.

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StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 21:33

TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:32

Yup, just tell my boss I'll be spending the winter in France but to keep up my salary payments. 👍

You may still need a thin, pink pullover if you want to dine outside in the evenings.

TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:33

Georgeskitchen · 25/08/2022 21:32

Ask charities like Children in need, Oxfam, Save the children and all.the rest where all the £££ millions goes?

Ask Mugabe's wife. 😂

Keyansier · 25/08/2022 21:33

@lucysnowe2
"Healthy life expectancy in the African region has increased on average by 10 years per person between 2000 and 2019"

Sorry if this offends anyone, I'm not good at wording things, and it'll probably come across as horrible and I don't mean it to because it will sound like I don't think people deserve to live, and I don't mean that at all. But with what @StillGoingStrongToday pointed out with the human figures dramatically rising, isn't this just more contribution to the problem that the OP was about in the first place?

Keyansier · 25/08/2022 21:34

^^ did not mean it to sound like that, hopefully people know what I mean

lucysnowe2 · 25/08/2022 21:42

"overall, and across most regions the prevalence of hunger has fallen since the millennium. Globally this has fallen from 13.3 percent in 2001 to 8.9 percent in the latest year."

ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-undernourishment

so despite a rise in population, hunger has gone down. Still a massive problem though, as the website shows, and there may have been a bit of an increase recently.

TokidokiBarbie · 25/08/2022 21:42

Keyansier · 25/08/2022 21:33

@lucysnowe2
"Healthy life expectancy in the African region has increased on average by 10 years per person between 2000 and 2019"

Sorry if this offends anyone, I'm not good at wording things, and it'll probably come across as horrible and I don't mean it to because it will sound like I don't think people deserve to live, and I don't mean that at all. But with what @StillGoingStrongToday pointed out with the human figures dramatically rising, isn't this just more contribution to the problem that the OP was about in the first place?

Well, yeah it's fair to say that having five kids won't make it any easier to feed your family.

lucysnowe2 · 25/08/2022 21:45

Interestingly (I don't know much about GMOs) this says only a few African countries have GMO crops...

borgenproject.org/gmos-in-africa/#:~:text=In%20Africa%2C%20GMOs%20are%20beginning,%2C%20Sudan%2C%20Egypt%20and%20Nigeria.

So the decrease (at the moment) in hunger is not necessarily down to GMOs?

Mymugisblue · 25/08/2022 21:51

Keyansier

Totally get what you're saying

wenevernewthis · 25/08/2022 21:51

@Keyansier
yes I know what you mean but I also don't want to say 'people should die or live in bad conditions' but I think we do so much unnecessary shit in England at least.

So there are threads on mumsnet with people talking about how they can't afford to feed their children. but they have a smart phone and Internet but not food! So we have luxury but nor basic? As in its cheaper and easier to have a magic fucking box on your pocket con enter to the whole world but you're living in a damp council flat counting pennies for dinner.
which will be a mcdonalds because you're in debt on your prepaid meter

So yeah some things are fixed but not really.

And then you have real poverty. not just 'relative' poverty where people are starving, not just hungry and suddenly the world feels just a bit too big.

I don't have the emotional capacity to care about it all. or even know about it all. it takes such a toll just knowing people are suffering.
which is such a twatty thing to say.
"oh poor suffering child, it hurts me just knowing you exist"

I really think we fucked ourselves up going global. We should have stayed in tribes where 1000 people was unheard of.

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wenevernewthis · 25/08/2022 21:53

don't even know whT happened there.

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StillGoingStrongToday · 25/08/2022 22:12

It did, but that’s not the metric that matters. Growth needs to drop to zero, not just decrease.

Bagzzz · 25/08/2022 22:33

yes a lot to be achieved and it can be depressing. One things that has been achieved almost globally is eradication of polio. The remaining countries are Pakistan and Afghanistan. This gives me hope, especially that part of this was achieved through ceasefires
www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/poliomyelitis

Liorae · 25/08/2022 22:51

wenevernewthis · 25/08/2022 20:50

Do you really believe that?
it seems to me the lower down of the group (so normal people) care loads but can't do anything about the problems, but the higher ups (millionaires plus) don't care but do all they can to make more problems.

It's easy to say you care when you can't put your money where your mouth is.

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