To wonder how people will financially survive?

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To think that many people are struggling already. Food price rises, gas and electric costs. The general cost of living due to inflation from either brexit since the pandemic and Ukraine war. But come on some people were struggling before any of those factors. Financially people will be pushed to breaking christmas will be off the cards general life will stagnate no meals out leisure activities cinema socialising new clothes treat foods. The threat of blackouts and wondering how we will pay bills to keep warm or keep a house running. Never mind buying food the price of it plus the large gaps on shelves. Winter will be miserable. It's becoming impossible to live in this country.

As I've said before, I'm a pensioner and fully expect to die this winter. I can't afford to heat my home. Thank you Tory party and Tory voters. Shit show.

This!

Disgusting ,& lazy

Does anyone think the government will actually reduce/freeze the cap? I can't see it. They might offer another hand out, so another lump sum of some kind, but I can't see them stopping the price hike happening on paper. It's why I fixed this week at the higher (8%) rise on today's cap in the hope I will 'make it back' in January when the next rise is due. No idea if I'm right if course, it's based on nothing other than zero faith in the government. I sit financially in the bracket of being just above the threshold for any additional help so we were on the brink of completely drowning in the new year based on current forecasts (hence the fix).

Does anyone think the government will actually reduce/freeze the cap?

No, it’s the Labour approach so they wouldn’t do it on principle.

Is there any particular reason why you would die this winter ? People have actually survived all sorts of adverse conditions I’m not saying it’s not going to be shit but I don’t think you’re going to die from not being able to turn the heating on

Why don’t you all move in together with the parent in the million pound house

I don’t think it’ll make a scrap of difference which Govt is in power. This is above national politics, it’s global.

They can't just keep handing out big lump sums to millions of people surely ? What if this carries on for years ?

And this is why the winter fuel allowance dished out en masse to millions of pensioners simply by virtue of age, should be means tested and rebranded a cost of living allowance. There would then be more for those across all ages, including yourself, that are proven to need it.
Many hundreds of thousands of pensioners receiving this benefit, simply don't. My own DM and PIL would tell you that.

It's not going to get better so we all need to solve the escalating costs issue for ourselves, I'm afraid. :(

@JOFFCV

We're quite close to average. We've been used to paying a direct debit of about £100 a month/£1200 a year.

The new DD they want is well over £500 a month because they know the average household energy bill is likely to be more than £7000 next year.

Some people don't earn that! And the ones that do don't want to hand it over to the energy companies.

The government is going to have to pull their fingers out to make us self sufficient in electricity, phase out gas, and nationalise energy.

It's the only long term solution.

Means testing costs more than it saves. There would be even less money if they did that. It should certainly be extended to anyone on universal credit.

The only long term solution is to provide the infrastructure to make the U.K. energy self sufficient and nationalise the energy industry so we are paying what it costs to generate not these obscene profits.

If I could do that, I would. I can't, can you?

@AnnieSnap

Yes I'm thinking this, how come no one in the public eye ever comments on it?

Do we want smog again to add to our misery

I vehemently disagree! Sick to death of Trumpian Tories and the Bozo loving cult of insanity that makes up so many Tory voters, excusing this God awful, corrupt and incompetent government!! There’s something deeply offensive about being told to save energy by the very people who’ve flounced around negligently for the last 12yrs..failing to invest, failing to plan, failing to prioritise renewables or storage…but making damn sure they put in their expenses claims.

But also, there is no reason why a war elsewhere, means a G7 economy, one of the 5 richest in the world, needs to let its most vulnerable people freeze or starve to death whilst a tiny majority enjoy an enormous cash bonanza from the volatility of conflict?? The same impact isn’t being felt by our European neighbours, who are doing something to protect their people from astonishingly high fuel bills!

This is a global issue. Whatever government is in power will not be able to control the cost. Also, no election next year...

You say this....but at the same time there's a bizarre mix on all my social media, including mn - half the posts worrying about the price cap announced today, the other half posting about getting/trying but failing to get Coldplay tickets- ranging from an absolute minimum of 100 quid per ticket to several hundred.

Tickers for the local "light show" Park thing at Christmas have completely sold out - again at about 80 quid for a family of four.

So it seems like a lot of people either completely have their heads in the sand or the divide in the country is going to dramatically split between those who can't afford to put the heating on, and those who can still afford to pay for luxuries.

@Babyroobs

It is going to carry on for years. This is how it is now.

They're not handing out big lump sums to people. You're not getting anything.

It's a corporate welfare handout to prop up the energy companies.

This autumn's was due to be £31billion but that's going to have to be doubled. I think it will cost at least £150billion to keep the energy companies going for another year or so.

I think people will die, I really worry about the OAPs who struggled at the best of times over winter, a lot just won't put their heating and won't be able to afford to eat. I find it disgusting we are facing this in our country in 2022.

It is going to carry on for years

It’s not. No government could survive it.

Making hay while the sun shines? Good old fashioned denial?

When your household energy direct debit is £500 a month most households are going to feel that. When it hits £800 a month surely almost everyone will feel that? Not the super rich, but all ordinary people.

@Noname99 hi Boris

Same. Underwear aside everyone in our house only puts clothes in the washing basket if they smell or are stained.

That's the makings of a recession... People not spending. Job losses follow that. Cycle gets worse

The pandemic happened to us. But why did people vote for Brexit, it was clearly going to get tough financial for the poorest and it seemed to be the poor and old who mostly voted for it. The old said that it worked in the 70s, I suppose the 70s are returning just as they wished but maybe not the bits of the 70s they were hoping for