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Stalker concerns, please help!

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Whydoidothishuh · 24/08/2022 23:10

I’ll try not to let this be a ramble,
apologies if it’s a bit long though. I would really appreciate any help or advice.

I have horses at the most amazing yard with fantastic facilities. It’s fairly rural and a massive property- there’s an owner living at the yard but the arenas and fields (turnout and riding) isn’t within eyeshot and it’s at the side of the yard so whilst I could run there for help, if I was in the fields or back arena I would be totally alone until I could run back..

im absolutely fine going myself and I actually find it really peaceful- there’s floodlights and it’s just me and my horse. I bring a hot flask of coffee and once we’ve ridden, I do his bed and groom him and as daft as it sounds, its how I unwind after work.

but I’ve got a family member with a bad history. They haven’t bothered me for a while and I’ve no reason to think they would start now, but I guess it’s always in the back of my mind that they’re unpredictable and anything could spark it all up again. They were previously violent and once we got away from them, stalked and threatened us and just generally made life hell. We had a panic button at one point because they threatened to cut my throat (it was just an empty threat just to scare us)

Like I said, they haven’t bothered us in a long time but it’s always in the back of my mind that they potentially could. They have contacts everywhere and could easily find us if they wanted, but we’re not that far away anyway.

I guess the tragic case of Gracie Spinks has made me realise how vulnerable an environment like a rural yard can make you, and it should be safe but potentially it could not be, especially for those with history of stalkers or abusers and so on.

just to clarify, I am NOT saying I’m scared of what happened to Gracie happening to me. I don’t believe that will happen. He’s not going to bother us anymore, but I suppose my family member has always been in the back of my mind (I avoid going to the town he lives in and don’t really like going out myself or being home alone because he’s always in the back of my mind) but for some reason I was never scared of him when I was at the yard myself because I love it and it was like my safe space and I wasn’t going to let him stop that. I guess hearing about Gracies story has made me realise that even that’s not safe too.

Im in my early 20s and still live at home with my family and I’m the only rider so whilst I can ask someone to come with me sometimes, I can’t drag them with me everytime especially in the cold dark winter nights. They don’t like me going myself anyway (they don’t think it’s safe for girls/woman to be alone in the countryside, as sad as it is because it should be) but I have to go myself in the dark sometimes because it’s dark at 3.30 in winter and I have to go after work.

i know I can’t let this family member affect my life or control me anymore, and like I said, he’s left us alone for a long time now, but it’s always been in the back of my mind that one day it might start up again.

when I was a child I had basically accepted at one point that one day we would be one of those families on a documentary where the stalker/abusive family member killed them, as tragic as that sounds. It used to terrify me but I really thought he would ‘get us’ and I just had to accept it. As I got older I stopped letting him control me or scare me, and he since started leaving us alone

I don’t want to be scared in my safe place with my horse. I have lights, I text my family when I’m there, I usually go when others are there but that’s not always possible from work, I check in with the owner and I take all safety precautions, but it’s so rural and I suddenly feel so vulnerable and I guess I’ve scared myself now

I don’t really know what I’m asking for, but does anyone have any advice? Thanks so much in advice.

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TiredzzZZ · 24/08/2022 23:14

Oh bless you.

I don't have any advice, I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that you sound lovely and I hope things workout and you are able to stop worrying soon!

Hopefully someone will come along with good advice for you.

Whydoidothishuh · 24/08/2022 23:36

TiredzzZZ · 24/08/2022 23:14

Oh bless you.

I don't have any advice, I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that you sound lovely and I hope things workout and you are able to stop worrying soon!

Hopefully someone will come along with good advice for you.

Thank you so much! ❤️

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Wombat100 · 25/08/2022 00:10

So sorry to hear this history. I’m quite cautious anyway so wouldn’t feel safe out in the fields/riding out etc on my own - even if I didn’t have your additional worries re your family history.

In your situation I would probably move yards to somewhere a little less isolated/where there are more people around - not necessarily because anything will happen (I’m sure it won’t, it sounds like things are working out for you which is great) but just to give you that peace of mind.

If you’re determined to stay at your current yard, I would personally a. Always check in with someone so they know where you are (I know you said you do this anyway); b. Carry an alarm just in case someone is in earshot; c. Get a bloody big dog 😅; d. Carry some sort of weapon. I appreciate d is probably a bit much and most people wouldn’t agree with it, but even something like pepper spray may make you feel more secure x

Feelingguiltyandpoor · 25/08/2022 00:41

Contact this organisation alicerugglestrust.org/

Whydoidothishuh · 25/08/2022 01:58

Wombat100 · 25/08/2022 00:10

So sorry to hear this history. I’m quite cautious anyway so wouldn’t feel safe out in the fields/riding out etc on my own - even if I didn’t have your additional worries re your family history.

In your situation I would probably move yards to somewhere a little less isolated/where there are more people around - not necessarily because anything will happen (I’m sure it won’t, it sounds like things are working out for you which is great) but just to give you that peace of mind.

If you’re determined to stay at your current yard, I would personally a. Always check in with someone so they know where you are (I know you said you do this anyway); b. Carry an alarm just in case someone is in earshot; c. Get a bloody big dog 😅; d. Carry some sort of weapon. I appreciate d is probably a bit much and most people wouldn’t agree with it, but even something like pepper spray may make you feel more secure x

Thank you so much for the advice. I definitely want to stay at the yard because I love the facilities, the owners and other liveries are so lovely and I’m generally so happy there and my horse loves it. To be honest even if I did move I think I’d probably still feel as anxious anyway!❤️

thank you so much for all the advice, I really appreciate it! I’ll definitely keep checking in with my family when I’m there so they know what I’m doing and where I am x

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Whydoidothishuh · 25/08/2022 06:11

Feelingguiltyandpoor · 25/08/2022 00:41

Contact this organisation alicerugglestrust.org/

Thanks I’ll have a look x

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Whydoidothishuh · 25/08/2022 12:33

Just bumping this in case anyone else has any more advice x

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Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 12:35

Second the big dog idea. If you do decide to get one put it as your profile pic on any social media too.

Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 12:36

Also I believe (not 100% sure) pepper spray is illegal here as are tasers but if you can get one just to carry on these outings I would.

jimmyhill · 25/08/2022 12:39

Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 12:36

Also I believe (not 100% sure) pepper spray is illegal here as are tasers but if you can get one just to carry on these outings I would.

Then OP would risk being arrested charged and fined or even imprisoned for possession of an offensive weapon.

LurkingBookseller · 25/08/2022 12:51

Any time to learn a martial art like jujutsu? It would take time and effort, but it can be reassuring to know that you could break someone’s arm, or choke them unconscious if you had to in a survival situation.

10HailMarys · 25/08/2022 12:51

I don't actually think this is really just about the yard, is it? It's about the fact that you were clearly traumatised by your awful experience and in your head, you've focused that on to this one thing. The Gracie Spinks case has just reawakened that trauma response - like PTSD, really.

You say yourself that you do know that what happened to Gracie Spinks will not happen to you. You also don't actually believe that the person who stalked your family is going to harm you ever again - so you know your fear isn't actually really grounded in reality, but you feel that fear anyway. That's what you need to look at overcoming. I think moving to a different stables, getting a dog, carrying an alarm etc may just transfer your anxiety to some other situation instead. I think some professional counselling or therapy (even if you've already had this before) might be a good thing to look into. You can totally beat this fear - you sound incredibly strong, honestly.

I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience when you were younger. You sound really lovely, and I completely see why your evenings with your horse are so special to you. It sounds like the nicest possible way to unwind.

CatHatSat · 25/08/2022 12:52

I have a similar history, in addition to moving yards, if there is phone signal at the yard then I recommend an Apple Watch with a SIM card.

The watch has a setting that you can discreetly click a button a set number of times and it automatically calls 999. You can also set it to automatically call 999 if you fall and don’t respond within a set time.

Knowing I have these features helps me feel less vulnerable. Doesn’t stop something happening, but it does mean you have a better chance of getting help sooner.

Sunnyqueen · 25/08/2022 12:57

jimmyhill · 25/08/2022 12:39

Then OP would risk being arrested charged and fined or even imprisoned for possession of an offensive weapon.

And the chances of police roaming around doing random stop and searches in the middle of a field in the middle of nowhere are?? I'm not suggesting she take pepper spray to the Co op or out clubbing.

Sparklfairy · 25/08/2022 13:02

jimmyhill · 25/08/2022 12:39

Then OP would risk being arrested charged and fined or even imprisoned for possession of an offensive weapon.

Well I have no knowledge of horses, but if there's something she could carry that she could legitimately use for caring for her horse that would also double up as a weapon, that would be perfectly legal. Just saying Halo

PinkButtercups · 25/08/2022 13:05

Can you get the life 360 app? That way parents can see where you are.

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