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To think food service employees shouldn't mess with peoples orders?

222 replies

LucyLeblanc · 24/08/2022 13:33

Saw a Tiktok earlier of a barista claiming she "messes" with the orders of "rude" customers. And there were thousands of comments in agreement with her and saying they also do similar 😧

The examples she gave were: Putting full fat milk in the customers coffee, rather than semi-skimmed. Giving them regular coffee rather than decaf, and vice versa. Serving them carrot cake rather than the chocolate cake they ordered. Etc...

I know she's not necessarily contaminating the food as such, but I think petty acts like this are totally unprofessional.

I understand some customers can be rude, I've worked in retail, but I just got on with it, I didn't feel the need to mess with anyones food for 'revenge'.

AIBU to think this is petty behaviour and food service employees should maintain some professionalism?

OP posts:
musicviking1 · 24/08/2022 17:46

Thank goodness for the cameras in the kitchens of most fast food joints now

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/08/2022 17:46

I thought spitting in whatever it is, was the usual thing.

I’m always very nice to all food/drink service staff!

tillytown · 24/08/2022 17:50

mobile.twitter.com/Antman0704/status/1561744461151064065?t=CQj44Yx7Oj0QQdCcRtnwUA&s=08 they don't get paid enough to have to deal with this kind of crap.

CaribouCarafe · 24/08/2022 17:52

I used to work as a waitress - I wouldn't swap foods (in case of allergies) but the rude customers would definitely be given the more stale foods/the warmest pint glasses/dregs from an old bottle of wine rather than a fresh one/purposefully seated next to the toilets etc. Rationale being - we don't want you back here but we don't have power to tell you that, so let's just make you not want to come back.

Don't yell or be mean to us, then you'll be fine.

Arbesque · 24/08/2022 17:52

shaggpilecarpet · 24/08/2022 17:23

I worked in catering in the early eighties,in a large hotel, there were many many arseholes, and unfortunately they got what was coming.
😂 Most of the the stuff posted here is very tame compared to what the coked up angry hard school Scottish chefs did to their food. However the vilest stuff was reserved for the management who spectacularly stupidly ate in the restaurant

But what if an employee is just in a bad mood or oversensitive. Is it also OK for him to spit or piss in customers food?

I hear so many kitchen staff boasting about this as if it's great. It's not. The customer may be an arsehole, but behaving like that is disgusting and makes many people afraid to make even legitimate complaints in restaurants in case some arrogant chef or kitchen staff member decides to 'pay them back'.

InPraiseOfBacchus · 24/08/2022 17:53

Johnnysgirl · 24/08/2022 13:35

She sounds like a frigging nutcase. How rude can you actually be when ordering a coffee, anyway? The scope for outrageous rudeness isn't that wide?

How rude can you be? Just ask anyone who's worked with customers...

Seriously though, I doubt many of these claims of messing with food orders are true. Probably done to garner likes and comments. They know that stuff like this gets you fired pretty quickly.

JamTuesday · 24/08/2022 17:57

We never complain.

One time eating suckling pig I left a cockroach I'd found in the salad on the edge of the plate for the waiter to plainly see. Ate the pork though. It was excellent. Didn't leave a tip.

On the one and only occasion dining at a chain steakhouse restaurant (not Angus) that thinks it's better than it is (truffle oil infused mac & cheese?) we were given the wrong steaks (ordered ribeye, got rump and filet mignon), badly cooked (pan not hot enough or too overcrowded to sear, so obviously done by a "chef" not worth his/her salt) and mushrooms full of dirt (not just a little grit, visible 2-3mm lumps of dirt). Left a cash 15% tip because we guessed the waitress was a poor student, not responsible for the management and idiots in the kitchen. Gave a positive review in response to the company's email feedback request, not wanting to grass up any of the staff to head office (it was just a few weeks after the hospitality sector opened up after lockdown). I wrote an anonymous letter to the manager explaining what was wrong.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 24/08/2022 17:57

Maverickess · 24/08/2022 15:20

I wouldn't ever mess with someone's food or drink, the price I could pay is too high for a bit of petty revenge. I find it hard to believe that many people would tbh in this day and age where an innocent mistake that harms someone due to sensitivity or intolerance/allergy can lead to hefty concequences - but then maybe I'm naive.

Leave an order sitting on the till for a bit before putting it through, definitely.

Act the level of dumb people have decided to treat me as because of my job, deliberately misunderstand them and just generally slow the whole thing down when I'm treated like shit for no reason, yes.

My attitude usually depends on how the customer treats me, come at me with an attitude and treat me like I'm beneath you, dumb, stupid etc then I'll give you the person you've decided I am and you'll get nothing more than what I have to do, and that will be done slowly and deliberately - you're going to slate me anyway, why the fuck do I need to put extra effort into that?

Treat me with a bit of common decency and you'll get more than I'm required to give just to keep my job, and done pleasantly, with a smile and maybe even something extra.

And as an aside, when did food service workers become professionals?

You sound eminently reasonable and nice, Maverickess, I'm sorry that you ever had to deal with dickish customers because there would have been no provocation from you.

Management need to protect their staff, end of story - and if they don't, it's management that must go and be replaced by somebody competent.

Your last point though, about when service staff 'became professional', it would be at the point that they are paid for the service they provide. It's not just service staff, it's anybody who is paid for their work. Nobody should be treated as lesser because of the job they do though, nobody.

TurkishDelightForTheLittlePrince · 24/08/2022 17:58

I work in retail, a supermarket specifically. The general public can be disgusting, annoying and downright rude. I’ve never worked in hospitality but I’ve heard it’s even worse from a customer service point of view.

I don’t get my revenge on the nasty customers- don't have the opportunity to anyway really but my colleagues and I do discuss them and warn each other that the person in question is heading their way. Some have cute, fun nicknames. It does unite us in our intense dislike so that’s nice I suppose.

BlodynGwyn · 24/08/2022 18:02

I emigrated many decades ago and don't recognize any of this as being the place I left. We used to be a very polite society.

Cantanka · 24/08/2022 18:08

I worked in retail and hospitality for a number of years, and people talk to you like you’re dirt on the bottom of their shoe - and that’s before the ones who kick off and threaten you. It’s soul destroying.

Did I ever tamper with an order or take revenge? No, because I’m not a dick.

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:11

where I worked as a teen we used to lick around the rim of the cups. no regrets

CaribouCarafe · 24/08/2022 18:13

Also, for those who mentioned legitimate complaints - it's the way that you raise a complaint that matters, not the complaint itself. I didn't mind having to make another cocktail if the first wasn't to the customer's liking if the customer made their request politely.

If your steak isn't done properly, then politely asking the waiting staff whether it's possible for it to be cooked to medium/well-done isn't an issue. It's only an issue where you insult the waiting staff/demand they give you a new steak etc. that it's a problem.

Or the cheeky fuckers who eat the whole meal (or at least half of it), then demand a replacement - err, no, you just had a meal and you're asking for more (free food) on top of it. If it was really bad then you would've left it at one bite. Ditto with drinks - don't raise a complaint when you've got a few mm of drink left and then demand a replacement!

SteelMagnolia61 · 24/08/2022 18:16

Okay, getting the crayons out. Pay attention.

When the body absorbs food, blood sugar goes up and the pancreas releases insulin so the food can be digested and converted into energy. YaY!

BUT, if blood sugar (or glucose) drops too low (hypoglycemia), the body tells the liver to "release the glycogen" which helps restore the blood sugar balance.

For people who don't have diabetes, the release of glycogen from the liver naturally occurs and your day goes on.

However, for people living with diabetes, (me, me, me) my body’s response to hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is impaired. Eventually, at some point and hopefully soon, glycogen will release from my liver and bring my body into balance.
The event mentioned needed an intervention of glucose tabs (to mimic glycogen from my liver) and a bit of iv solution to top it all off.

2+2=5 is a mistake. Not paying attention is just ignorance.

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:25

SteelMagnolia61 · 24/08/2022 18:16

Okay, getting the crayons out. Pay attention.

When the body absorbs food, blood sugar goes up and the pancreas releases insulin so the food can be digested and converted into energy. YaY!

BUT, if blood sugar (or glucose) drops too low (hypoglycemia), the body tells the liver to "release the glycogen" which helps restore the blood sugar balance.

For people who don't have diabetes, the release of glycogen from the liver naturally occurs and your day goes on.

However, for people living with diabetes, (me, me, me) my body’s response to hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) is impaired. Eventually, at some point and hopefully soon, glycogen will release from my liver and bring my body into balance.
The event mentioned needed an intervention of glucose tabs (to mimic glycogen from my liver) and a bit of iv solution to top it all off.

2+2=5 is a mistake. Not paying attention is just ignorance.

yeh I’m diabetic and your story makes no sense. If you were given sugar you hadn’t bolused for you’d go high and then stay high, you wouldn’t suddenly drop without giving yourself insulin. Because, yno, insulin production is lacking in diabetics. Not sure what glycogen stores have to do with it being given unexpected sugar

chinuptitsoutonwards · 24/08/2022 18:26

This happened to my colleague who has a milk allergy that results in anaphylaxis.

Went to a cafe, ordered a drink. Asked 3/4 times that they ensure that it’s oat milk, sips the coffee and her throat closes.

It has also happened with MIL who is diabetic. We went out for a meal and she ordered two diet cokes. They were two regular cokes and she had an insulin spike that resulted in her hospitalisation.

I don’t care how rude people are or how busy the place is whatever. When you’re giving someone products to ingest you do it properly.

Johnnysgirl · 24/08/2022 18:26

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:11

where I worked as a teen we used to lick around the rim of the cups. no regrets

Hopefully only if someone had been an arse?

ivykaty44 · 24/08/2022 18:32

but still, that does not make it right for any employee to be rude, and unprofessional too, as I've also seen that happen at times, and in some cases that just escalates the situations.

but you can be rude to a customer and leave that job and walk into another job tomorrow, doesn't means it right but these jobs are literally 2 a penny and employees are crying out for staff

be a bit different if a teacher did this, or a solicitor etc as there would be complaint and the professional body of those people would be contacted etc

mrstea301 · 24/08/2022 18:33

Johnnysgirl · 24/08/2022 13:35

She sounds like a frigging nutcase. How rude can you actually be when ordering a coffee, anyway? The scope for outrageous rudeness isn't that wide?

Have you ever worked in a public facing job? I worked in an Asda cafe when I was in college / university - people can be pretty fucking rude!! I wouldn't mess with their food but it would always stick in my mind!

I think everyone should have to work in a public facing role for at least two years to understand how difficult a job it can be. Some people refuse to be satisfied!

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:35

Johnnysgirl · 24/08/2022 18:26

Hopefully only if someone had been an arse?

we only licked arses yeh

Americano75 · 24/08/2022 18:38

Bubblebubblebah · 24/08/2022 16:24

While I absolutely agree about not giving wrong items on purpose as it is dangerous...

You don't have to be sensitive to not be ok after being called cunt and threatened with physical violence. Or calleed stupid because the custome was not right...

Maybe we should stop excusing twats with "just an off day"

Absolutely this. We can all have off days but there's no excuse to treat people like shite.

KevinTheKoala · 24/08/2022 18:52

I work in food service and I have never tampered with a customers food, but there have been times when for example two tables food are on the hot rack at the same time and I will take the nicer tables first, same for drinks. There has been a customer who I have refused to serve - who was then kicked out for their behaviour (squaring up to me, shouting in my face). There have been many customers who have sworn at me, called me stupid, clicked their fingers at me, ignored me completely while I'm holding scalding plates, thrown things at me, threatened me etc. Who have made me feel tempted to be petty but I haven't because what's the point. Some people are just disgustingly rude and think they are entitled to treat servers like dirt because we are there to 'serve them'. I also won't be quite as nice to the nasty customers, nice customers get extras where I can (more icecream/toppings than they are supposed too (they are told about this so they know its more than the menu says) a free soft drink or coffee if I can, the occasional discount etc.) We appreciate the customers who treat us with respect because sadly not everybody does so what should be the norm gets special treatment.

LaughingCat · 24/08/2022 18:58

To all those wondering how bad a bad customer can be…from fourteen years in the hospitality game, BAD.

From a lady who once looked me up and down and told me that she shouldn’t have to answer questions from a minimum wage dropout (I’d asked her if she wanted anything with her coffee), to the guy who screamed at me to fuck off and how dare I call him that (I’d called him ‘Sir’ as in, ‘let me get that for you, Sir’ and no, he didn’t mishear me), to the dude who called me a lazy fucker and my staff useless twats because his coffee wasn’t exactly 140 degrees when he got to the table (yes, he had a thermometer and yes, he stopped to get himself a glass of water and grab sugar etc from the side).

Then there’s the I’m Not Talking To You brigade, replete with bluetooth headsets, that think it’s perfectly fine to be talking away and just raise a hand and give you a glare when you try to ask what they’re ordering (and often take you to task afterwards).

I’ve been spat at, sworn at and both cut short and insulted on many occasions.

That said, I bloody loved the sector and 99.9% of customers are flipping wonderful. And when they’re not, you can always bitch about them in the back with your team 😂

Dreamwhisper · 24/08/2022 19:06

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:25

yeh I’m diabetic and your story makes no sense. If you were given sugar you hadn’t bolused for you’d go high and then stay high, you wouldn’t suddenly drop without giving yourself insulin. Because, yno, insulin production is lacking in diabetics. Not sure what glycogen stores have to do with it being given unexpected sugar

Sorry to drive this thread further off topic by my mum has diabetes that she injects insulin for and she can absolutely come over all funny and need to quickly consume something sugary and then she feels right again - it's usually orange juice.

So while I'm not diabetic myself I still know that people with diabetes can still become ill because of low blood sugar. I have no idea how it works though!

Dreamwhisper · 24/08/2022 19:08

PeachPRC · 24/08/2022 18:35

we only licked arses yeh

Ummm Grin