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Can't help but worry about my DD ?

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singingstar · 22/08/2022 08:19

She's two and a half.

I can't work out whether my expectations of her are just too high ( I suspect, just from inexperience with children in general ), or if something is wrong.

She goes to nursery and they say she's absolutely developing normally, according to her age. Is that reassurance enough would you say ?

She's quite unruly sometimes and doesn't always listen. She can be pretty defiant. Obviously has tantrums when she can't get what she wants.

Language wise, she is being raised with a couple of languages in the mix, but her main one is English for sure. She speaks in sentences, but doesn't respond to what's your name. I've been trying to teach her that for ages, but she just doesn't respond. She knows her name, as she says it when she's referring to herself sometimes or when she sees herself in a mirror or in a photo.

It takes her a while to learn people's names. I have noticed some children in her nursery know her name, but she won't refer to the children by their name, rather a generic term - like child. The world is split between children, mum and dads and grandpa and grandmas. It's super cute, but takes a while for her to refer to people by name, if she does it at all.

Also she doesn't respond to how old are you? I've also tried teaching her that for ages.

At nursery they say she's bight and confident, defiant at times and knows what she wants. Surely they know if something was not right ?

I feel like I've always been worried about her. But I suspect that's really because of her, but I think I have really high expectations of what a child her age should be able to do perhaps. I would say I expected her to be at her current level of understanding about a year ago.. which is probably just silly.

She struggles to play age appropriate board type games. She sometimes plays, but most of the time, she just throws stuff up in the air. I guess she can't be bothered..

She also does this weird shaking thing when she's angry and can't get her way sometimes. She clenched her fists and shakes a bit. I tell her to stop and she does. Sometimes she laughs afterwards, like she finds it funny.

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Flowersintheattic57 · 22/08/2022 09:35

Instead of worrying about if your child is doing all the right things for her age (she is), maybe you should read parenting books so you can be doing parenting right? Then you can give yourself a hard time that you didn’t feed her regularly enough that she has to drag you to the cupboard to be fed, insisted she played board games before she understood the concept and took her to tennis and was disappointed when she didn’t understand that either.
No one wants to grow up being criticised for not being good enough, it’s how you destroy a person’s sense of worth. She may have challenges or she may have gifts or both or be perfectly average. Just love her, listen to her, play with her and tell her she’s a great kid every day.
My grandson is two and his best trick is to pee on a bush in the garden, other than that he’s a funny little Neanderthal.

Foldingchair · 22/08/2022 09:36

She's 2. They have a huge range of idiosyncrasies at that age. You can't even compare two you made yourself!

Ds has been with the same group of kids in an extracurricular group since he was 5. He's in double figures now. He still couldn't tell you any of their names.

singingstar · 22/08/2022 09:54

Choconut · 22/08/2022 09:16

Does she imaginary play by herself? ie does she get the dolls in the dolls house to do different things without you there to direct or do it for her?
She's only 2.5 so it's almost impossible to tell (mine was diagnosed with ASD at 11) it could be her very young age or it could be high functioning ASD.
2.5 for tennis is crazy young, I would do anything not strictly aimed at very young children at this age. Board games are still a little old for her IMO - I'd stick to imaginative play, messy play, reading to her, playing outside. You can start encouraging her to take turns with things though which is a skill needed for board games.

What I would avoid at this age is trying to directly 'teach' her things. Have fun with her, count things in front of her ie count out blocks or the chairs for her dolls house, talk to her about everything she does and you do, describe things ie colours - 'oh Lucy doll why don't you sit on the red chair'. She will pick everything up from this over time rather than you trying to teach her the right answers.

Mine (with ASD) is still terrible with names, at secondary school he could be in a class for 6 months and still not know the teachers name!

Just have fun with her, if you spend all your time worrying about her or judging her abilities compared to others, or trying to push her on too fast then you'll miss out on all the joy. Be led by her, when she takes your hand to play dolls houses go with it, make up a story, describe everything, use funny voices, be overly dramatic. And remember she will probably be happy with you playing out the same/similar stories time and time again. Don't feel you have to come up with something totally new every time.

She does play with the doll house and do pretend stuff with the dolls. Like sitting them at the table to eat or on the sofa to watch TV. She also tucks her dolls in at night, kisses them, puts bibs on them and pretends to feed them. It's very cute. She also straps her dolls into her swing in the garden and then pushes them.

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singingstar · 22/08/2022 09:56

I knew the tennis lesson would be a disaster. I thought there might be other two and a half year olds there and they would just teach them to throw the ball, very simple stuff like that. Running back and forth to the net. They did do the running to the net, which she took part in and loved. She really had so much fun, even if she wasn't ready.

In terms of board games, they're for her age range. So super super simple and she has enjoyed them a few times, then other times she just throws them all up in the air.

But totally get what everyone is saying, thank you.

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singingstar · 22/08/2022 10:00

Flowersintheattic57 · 22/08/2022 09:35

Instead of worrying about if your child is doing all the right things for her age (she is), maybe you should read parenting books so you can be doing parenting right? Then you can give yourself a hard time that you didn’t feed her regularly enough that she has to drag you to the cupboard to be fed, insisted she played board games before she understood the concept and took her to tennis and was disappointed when she didn’t understand that either.
No one wants to grow up being criticised for not being good enough, it’s how you destroy a person’s sense of worth. She may have challenges or she may have gifts or both or be perfectly average. Just love her, listen to her, play with her and tell her she’s a great kid every day.
My grandson is two and his best trick is to pee on a bush in the garden, other than that he’s a funny little Neanderthal.

Point taken. However I wasn't truly disappointed about the tennis, because I thought that's how it would go.

And in terms of accusing me of not feeding her properly... I mean, are you saying it's not normal for child to ask for a snack, ever ? Is that always a sign she's not fed properly ? I was really pleased when she started being able to ask me for food to be honest ! She also asks for water sometimes, I also thought that was a good sign that she's able to communicate her needs. And before you say, why does she not have water at all times, sometimes she may have dropped her cup behind the sofa and I haven't noticed- so she asks me for a drink. This is normal I think..:

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Flowersintheattic57 · 22/08/2022 10:11

What I was trying to do is write the post from your daughter ’s point of view. You need to work on your own anxiety. It is not a competition. Your insecurities are colouring every interaction you have with your child. You are overanalysing every microscopic daily event or accomplishment. I would say to you sign yourself up to a good parenting course so you learn how to react in a more positive, relaxed way.

singingstar · 22/08/2022 10:13

Flowersintheattic57 · 22/08/2022 10:11

What I was trying to do is write the post from your daughter ’s point of view. You need to work on your own anxiety. It is not a competition. Your insecurities are colouring every interaction you have with your child. You are overanalysing every microscopic daily event or accomplishment. I would say to you sign yourself up to a good parenting course so you learn how to react in a more positive, relaxed way.

I totally take this on board.

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Alfreddo83 · 22/08/2022 11:16

Tennis! Not a chance.

My 2.5 year old is just grasping very basic jigsaws and tbh I thought this was brilliant as my eldest took to that a bit later. Just let her be.

Mardyface · 22/08/2022 11:26

If you are an anxious person (as I am) it it sometimes difficult to gauge whether the little bell ringing in your mind is intuition that something's wrong or stupid anxiety being a knob. People say 'trust your instincts' but you can't always.

It's possible that your instinct is right and she will eventually need additional help. Mothers often know. But for now she is doing as expected for her age and her development sounds completely normal so I would focus on that. You seem unlikely to miss it if she does need help later on.

Aus84 · 22/08/2022 11:40

She sounds similar to my DD at that age. Don’t compare her to the other children, they all develop differently when they are little and a month or two can make a huge difference. My DD was a defiant little thing, very bossy and set in her ways, she is nearly 16 now. She is a great leader, stands up for what she believes in and always looks out for those who struggle to speak up for themselves. She definitely was a handful as a child but I’m so so proud of her.

jadedspark · 22/08/2022 11:41

I have a 2.5 year old and he wouldn't respond to what's your name/how old are you either. He's not particularly interested in structured, sit down activities as he'd rather do his own thing. I think it's pretty normal for this age (I have an older one too).

Coincidentally, I've been trying to teach him colours for a while. I'd given up as he didn't seem interested at all. The other day, he was painting and suddenly said 'I need blue' and then started listing a few of the paint colours. I was really shocked! They obviously do listen to more than you think Smile

qpmz · 22/08/2022 11:48

Are the children at nursery who know names slightly older? Even a couple of months makes a difference as so much can change!

Take the pressure off and just follow what she's interested in. She might feel frustrated if you try and get her to do things based on expectations. Concentrate on what she enjoys doing - she sounds absolutely fine.

singingstar · 22/08/2022 11:50

qpmz · 22/08/2022 11:48

Are the children at nursery who know names slightly older? Even a couple of months makes a difference as so much can change!

Take the pressure off and just follow what she's interested in. She might feel frustrated if you try and get her to do things based on expectations. Concentrate on what she enjoys doing - she sounds absolutely fine.

I think some of them are younger ! They've known her name for ages. When she comes in, they say ' hi XXX '

And some of them when they see me say ' hi XXX mum ' !!

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Classicblunder · 22/08/2022 11:54

I don't think your expectations are off base exactly - my younger son started playing board games at 2, not like chess but things like Orchard toys simple ones, I wouldn't have thought to try them with a child that age but I have an older one so gave it a go. He also attends a football class and has done since he was 2 and can follow instructions.

However, I do think your DD is in the normal range and you will likely find that she has a big leap at some point

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 22/08/2022 11:58

Just because the manufacturers put an age on a box doesn’t mean the toy is actually intellectually suitable for most children of that age, just that they can’t choke on small parts. 🤷‍♀️
You child sounds fine. My child is high functioning SEN and if you’re concerned the main thing to find out is whether they’re doing the things on the two-year developmental checks yet. Mine isn’t. At 3 years old. I can’t imagine my child at a tennis lesson or sitting down for a board game.

singingstar · 22/08/2022 11:58

jadedspark · 22/08/2022 11:41

I have a 2.5 year old and he wouldn't respond to what's your name/how old are you either. He's not particularly interested in structured, sit down activities as he'd rather do his own thing. I think it's pretty normal for this age (I have an older one too).

Coincidentally, I've been trying to teach him colours for a while. I'd given up as he didn't seem interested at all. The other day, he was painting and suddenly said 'I need blue' and then started listing a few of the paint colours. I was really shocked! They obviously do listen to more than you think Smile

That's exactly like my girl ! She loves playing hide and seek and peekaboo and chase type things. She loves do be outside and playing with sand and dirt and water. Recently she's been into pretend play with dolls and her doll house. So she's starting to sit down a little and just plays on her own a bit, rather than always wondering around.

One of the board games she has is literally just two cards, the front and back of an animal and you need to put it together. It's hardly a board game !! She sometimes gets it right. It says it's from 18 months. It's so simple and when you read the milestone stuff, she should be able to do it for sure. That's all I meant when I said board game.

She likes to draw and paint. She knows her colours. She can count to 20 and knows the abc song of course. She also is starting to say ABCDE when she sees big lettering on the side of a box for example.

I think she's starting to recognise numbers, so when I draw an 8 and ask her what it is, she usually gets it right. Im trying to do the same with letters. I don't even know when they're supposed to recognise number and letters. But she's starting to. I don't do it a lot at all, but a few times. Perhaps it's wrong and I'm pressuring her and I shouldn't ask her about it.

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riotlady · 22/08/2022 12:21

Sounds like a perfectly normal 2.5yo, just relax a bit.

RedHelenB · 22/08/2022 12:24

Language is always slower to develop when a child is being brought up bilingual. No need to worry imo.

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