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Would it UR to put a sign on my neighbours garage which is directly below my bedroom….he lives in a totally different apartment block

54 replies

Naimee87 · 22/08/2022 06:31

Bit of a dull post….

But for the past two weeks every weekday without fail between 5:30-6:00am the garage directly beneath my bedroom gets opened and is shut again within a few minutes. Clearly no car is being driven out of the garage. I know its a neighbour who does this and i am 90% sure he gets a stand up e-scooter(fkin hate the things) out to head off to work. This neighbour doesn’t live in my block but in the 1st one on our street with his family. He obviously pays the monthly fee for a garage and was allocated the one below my flat. Would it be UR of me to put up a note requesting he take the item (escooter) he gets out of the garage every morning to his basement(or gf’s garage located beneath their flat) We are all allocated a decent basement space in each building that can be locked. Or that he move it to the bike rack space also located in their building. I get up with DS at around 6:30/6:45 each morning for school/work but lately he and the dog have been waking up far earlier because of this early noise.
So….
YABU - He pays the fee and was allocated this garage so is entitled to keep/get out whatever he needs whenever he needs it.
YANBU - I can put up a sign (politely) asking him to store the item in his building given the multiple storage options available.

OP posts:
wavesrolling · 22/08/2022 06:38

All you can reasonably do is ask, with NO expectations on him. He is allowed to store his scooter where he likes and access it when he likes.

I would leave a note with your number and ask if he can give you a text/call to discuss something with him, then tell him on the phone that the sound of the garage opening is waking you, and ask if there is anywhere else he could store his scooter for early morning access.

But if he says no, you just have to get on with it.

Tontostitis · 22/08/2022 06:40

If its the same time every morning you will soon stop hearing it and I think it's very unreasonable to ask someone not to use their garage. If he was idling his Hatley Davidson for 15 minutes every morning you might have a point.

Sswhinesthebest · 22/08/2022 06:42

You live above a garage. There is a reasonable expectation that the garage will be used so you don’t really have a leg to stand on.

You could ask nicely in a would you mind way, but you need to make it clear to him that you know it’s a favour that you are asking.

autienotnaughty · 22/08/2022 06:45

You can ask but really your living arrangement aren't his problem

londonrach · 22/08/2022 06:46

Yabu and rude to ask. It's a garage. You choose to live above it. He can store is scooter and use it to go to work in his garage.

Travis1 · 22/08/2022 06:49

YABU, could be worse, could be starting a soupped up car and leaving it running for 15 minutes every morning

dribblewibble · 22/08/2022 06:52

He's using his garage, that he pays for, as a garage?

DieselBlue89 · 22/08/2022 06:56

You could get a white noise machine so you and DS can sleep through the garage noise

prepared101 · 22/08/2022 06:57

YABU. He's clearly going to work and using his garage for normal garage activity.

I'd think you were nuts if I got a note like you describe!

carefullycourageous · 22/08/2022 06:59

Sorry, YABU. Your bedroom is over a garage, people use their garages to store their transport items.

If he was practising drums in there you would have a point, but just accessing his garage? No. A note would be embarrassing.

Weirdwonders · 22/08/2022 07:00

I think you should ask. Personally I wouldn’t feel comfortable opening the door every day at 5.30am if I thought it was waking someone regardless of whether I’m paying for the garage or not.

Lemonblossom · 22/08/2022 07:02

As others have says, you chose to live over a garage that you don’t own. There was a good chance you’d hear people using the garage at night and in the morning.

Darkness22 · 22/08/2022 07:02

I don't think you can leave a note. I think you can speak to him face to face and be smiley and friendly and try to appeal to his better nature.

JustTheOneSwan · 22/08/2022 07:04

At that time he's going to work so it's not him being an arse and choosing to make a row.
I feel your pain though we used to live next door to the milkman.
I'd be more worried about a fire while the thing is on charge, check smoke alarms.

Craver · 22/08/2022 07:07

So your neighbour pays a rent to use a garage. You feel it is unreasonable that he uses the garage. YABU

Weirdwonders · 22/08/2022 07:15

There’s nothing unreasonable about using a garage, but do you really think using a garage at 5.30am when someone else sleeps above it and you live in a completely different block is ok? Couldn’t you argue that you shouldn’t rent a garage below a bedroom you don’t own if you know you’re going to be using it at 5.30am daily? Why does all consideration go out of the window just because you pay money for something?

prepared101 · 22/08/2022 07:16

Weirdwonders · 22/08/2022 07:15

There’s nothing unreasonable about using a garage, but do you really think using a garage at 5.30am when someone else sleeps above it and you live in a completely different block is ok? Couldn’t you argue that you shouldn’t rent a garage below a bedroom you don’t own if you know you’re going to be using it at 5.30am daily? Why does all consideration go out of the window just because you pay money for something?

You do realise not all jobs are 9-5 right!?

stuckdownahole · 22/08/2022 07:23

If I got a note like the one you are planning to send, I would write you off as difficult and ignore it, because experience has taught me that difficult people just get worse if pandered to. Everyone with neighbours will be subjected to noises they would rather not hear, it's just part of life.

Your local Environmental Health team will have guidelines about what constitutes unreasonable noise but this sort of thing won't be included.

Albgo · 22/08/2022 07:25

Have you tried things at home to limit the noise first? E.g. white noise machine?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL · 22/08/2022 07:28

YABU he pays and uses his garage, he uses it to house his vehicle.

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 22/08/2022 07:29

Speaking to him would be much better than a note! I don't mean hanging around at 5:30am to catch him on his way out, but maybe at whatever time he tends to return each day? If you know which flat he lives in, you could even knock on the door?

A lot of people are saying that you "chose to live in a flat directly above the garage" - but I didn't assume that - it may well be social/ council housing, and the flat was allocated to you so you had very little choice.

In my experience, most people don't want to aggravate their neighbours and wake them up on a daily basis, so this guy might not realise how the sound affects you, and may well be willing to store his scooter elsewhere/ make less noise while opening and closing the door.

If you approach him in a way that builds rapport, aware that you're asking him to modify his behaviour, purely as a favour to you, and try not to come across as unfriendly/ entitled/ demanding, you'll probably get better results. Sometimes people who get up very early themselves (he must be getting up by 5am every day) feel a bit peeved about others having more of a lie-in - emphasise how it affects your DS and dog and how that has a knock-on effect on you - and make it clear that you sympathise with the fact that he has to get up that early for work himself.

Good luck!

CaptainMyCaptain · 22/08/2022 07:29

Travis1 · 22/08/2022 06:49

YABU, could be worse, could be starting a soupped up car and leaving it running for 15 minutes every morning

That's what I expected the thread to be about but this sounds like normal usage.

pastaandpesto · 22/08/2022 07:31

I feel your pain op, I am woken at 5.30am every morning by a similar type of noise caused by one individual. Sadly you do not necessarily learn to not hear it.

I don't think there is anything wrong with leaving a note BUT I do think you need to come at it from the angle of asking a real favour, without a hint of telling him what to do. Acknowledge that he is doing nothing wrong, but that it would be hugely appreciated by you if he was able to store his scooter elsewhere. If he's a decent person then he might well make this small change to help you out.

Trouble is if he is an aresehole he might be so affronted at the mere suggestion that he doesn't do what the fuck he likes that he might even ramp up the noise to teach you a lesson. Some people really are awful unfortunately.

Shortpoet · 22/08/2022 07:34

Is it that the door is noisy. Do the hinges need piling or does he slam it shut.

Is there a way opening the door could be made quieter?

loislovesstewie · 22/08/2022 07:36

Just spray some WD40 on the hinges.

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