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Year 8 student identifying as a CAT

95 replies

PonyPals · 22/08/2022 00:57

AIBU to think that this world is becoming so screwed!
The stuff you read these days is truly horrifying.

www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/furries-australia-year-8-melbourne-private-school-girl-identifies-as-a-cat/news-story/04f31c482d0701cc1b42e047b5bcfce2

The school is happy to support this WTF

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/08/2022 09:44

Regardless if the article is true or not, there are people on this post stating that they have come across student at school with mental illness, identifying as cats

That's sad, isn't it? Do you really think that a bunch of adults on the internet making fun of these students (including the one in the article) is fine?

IfIHadAHeart · 22/08/2022 09:46

There is a child at DCs school who identifies as a pixie. They even wear little pointy ears. The child in question is 16. I’m not really sure why the school allows such nonsense to be honest.

Bluebells12 · 22/08/2022 09:52

“Mom, I think I’m a cat.”
”Can you lick your butt?”
”No.”
”Then you’re not a cat, dear.”

Lockheart · 22/08/2022 09:57

IfIHadAHeart · 22/08/2022 09:46

There is a child at DCs school who identifies as a pixie. They even wear little pointy ears. The child in question is 16. I’m not really sure why the school allows such nonsense to be honest.

Because teenagers do dumb shit and most of them will go through some fairly weird phases. Most people will just shrug and let them grow out of it. I doubt this person actually "identifies" as a pixie. If they have no dress code then let them wear the weird ears.

When I was a teenager it was emo that was all the rage. I made some questionable fashion choices. I'm a relatively normal and well adjusted professional adult now.

Underanothersky · 22/08/2022 09:58

This was clearly posted to encourage frothing about trans issues.

CJsGoldfish · 22/08/2022 10:22

Regardless if the article is true or not..
No, not 'regardless...." you posted an article you did not verify based on one very dodgy 'source' Why?

We have people identifying as the opposite sex or as disabled. If we accept any identity that is not routed in reality we should accept them all imo

And there you have it..🙄

Don't you have your own board?

mam0918 · 22/08/2022 10:35

Hate to break it to you but Furry culture and identifying as animals was massive among 20 somthings when I was in university a decade ago.

Non of this is remotely new.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/08/2022 10:36

Don't you have your own board?

If you are inferring that this discussion would be welcome in FWR then I can assure you that it would not be. It is not relevant to the trans issue although the OP might think it is and it would be called out for the nasty disableist bollocks that it is.

RoseAndRose · 22/08/2022 10:45

FallOutPloy · 22/08/2022 07:55

For me, it's not a case of a "slippery slope", it just raises the philosophical question of if/why some "identities" might be more valid than others.

Except it doesn't.

Because it's not true

SunnyD44 · 22/08/2022 10:46

I work in an SEND school and this is very common.

Sometimes it’s animals and sometimes it characters of some sort.
Often it’s a way to cope with stress or as a way to truly be themselves.

I think it’s unfair that we squash people into a little box and we judge anyone who is slightly different.

The worst part about my job is teaching them how to be ‘normal’ and it’s so sad because it’s hard to explain why they can’t walk around in public being a dinosaur.

That being said my students know their cats, dinosaurs, peppa pigs, five nights at Freddy’s etc need to be ‘put away’ before coming into the classroom else it’s like a zoo.

I think there’s a fine line between encouraging children to explore and not put them into a box and let them do whatever they want and create an even bigger gap between themselves and other students.

Boiledbeetle · 22/08/2022 10:55

I'm just here to say that as a four year old I identified as a boiled beetle!.

of course then I grew up!

And of course no longer identify as a boiled bee....👀

mrsparsnip · 22/08/2022 11:27

My eldest son (23) identifies as a cat. He is autistic and he has serious mental health issues, but his cat-persona is something very positive.

Cats are his area of special interest and they are also a great coping mechanism for him (what could be more calming than spending time with a cat, or learning to relax as totally as a cat).

He wants to work with cats, and already has secured voluntary work as a cat socialiser with a leading animal charity. So his interest is providing access to employability skills

He claims that he can communicate telepathically with the cats and they communicate in the same way to him. Whilst we accept this may be something to do with his MH issues, the communication is always positive and he refers to his 'spirit animals' as cats. Even though this experience is a little different from ours, we accept it and the guidance is positive. We would be worried if he claimed the spirit cats told him to do awful things, but they don't.

He is verbal and very articulate and he has given himself a cat-like name. With guidance from his support team, he knows when to use his cat name, and he has stopped referring publicly to the toilet as the 'litter tray' and his bed as the 'cat basket'. He may say these things privately to close friends and family, but he does not use these terms in that context publicly.

He has made a lot of acquaintances in gentle environments such as cat cafes, with people who are also fascinated by cats.

He has invented a whole taxonomy for talking about cat colours, ages and genders. It is very complex, but it makes use of his systemising skills. He used to be interested in meteorology and knew the names of every cloud type etc.

Oh, and he rides a motorbike, has a beard (which he identifies as 'whiskers') and has cat stickers all over his bike. Jackson Galaxy is one of his old idols

I think what I am trying to say, through these examples, is that once we accept difference, we can see how incredibly complex human beings are, and how incredibly interesting we are. I think the school are doing exactly the right thing by letting the young boy embrace his identity. They well be able to reach and guide him this way. It is a fantastic means of expression.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 22/08/2022 11:39

Fantastic post MrsP.

Thank you and all the best to your son.

HoppingPavlova · 22/08/2022 15:59

The worst part about my job is teaching them how to be ‘normal’ and it’s so sad because it’s hard to explain why they can’t walk around in public being a dinosaur.

Why can’t they though? I don’t see any issue in accepting that someone wants to walk around pretending to be a dinosaur? That’s very different to endorsing and agreeing that they really are a dinosaur - because they are a girl/boy pretending to be one (fine), they are not one (impossible).

yzed · 22/08/2022 19:52

While we're talking about cats, and so many people think they know for certain about cats, maybe we should discuss Shroedinger's cat. That amazing physicist has been able to explain to the best physicists in the world how a cat can be in two places at once until the box is opened. Who are we to think we know so much better?

viques · 22/08/2022 20:04

Surely it is not that the cat is in two places but that we don’t know if it is alive or dead, thus raising the possibility on a philosophical level that it is both alive and dead at the same time.

viques · 22/08/2022 20:05

So therefore if children are identifying as cats we need to discuss with them the possibility that they are both human and cat simultaneously.

yzed · 22/08/2022 20:26

"The point", in relation to the contents of this post, is that we neither know everything there is to know about cats nor children, and should perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt sometimes instead of ridiculing them and their carers.

SultanOfSwing · 22/08/2022 20:45

The vey first, nasty, and bigoted response tells you all you need to know about what this post is really about.

beatrice14 · 19/06/2023 20:25

I remember years ago reading here about a 'catgender' child who insisted on being called mewself. People said, 'Only happens on mumsnet!' And now..
When I was little I loved pretending to be a cat or dog. My grandmother as a child wrote that if not herself, she'd like to be a cat - it must run in the family! I still think it would be nice, though I like being a person! I think normally it's a harmless game-lots of children do it, after all. But actively running around hissing on all fours when older is really disturbing, especially if the child has difficulties with social interaction, as it risks cutting them off further. And they risk being preyed on by creepy adult 'furries'. I'm currently doing research on feral children and it's disturbing to think of children acting in a similar way because of tiktok or autism, not severe abandonment..

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