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My husband wants to start sending our 15 year old son, to stay with his mum on a Friday night.

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Anonymous170822 · 17/08/2022 23:15

Hello all, I need a sounding board and that, would normally be my husband, however, this involves him and his mum.

My husband and I, have been married for 19 years and we share 3 children together they are 18,15 and almost 3 years old.

My husband, wants us to send our middle child, over to his mother's house, on Friday evening like we used to do. Before our 18 year old moved out of our family home, (in October 2019).

Our 18 year old, has totally rebelled, and my husband's mum, took our son's side, things got really ugly so much so, that my mother in law, said to my husband, to treat her, as if she was dead, (that was in February this year), by the way my husband is my mother in law's, only child.

The thing is, there has been more downs, than ups, when it comes to my mother in law. She doesn't realise boundaries and thinks it's fine to be interfering in my marriage to her son.

It all started 18 years ago, when I was pregnant with my first child, I walked into, my mother in law's house, she and my husband were having a conversation regarding what religion our child, was going to be baptized and she said, that, if our child was going to be baptized a different religion than to what, my husband's family was, then my mother in law, wanted nothing to do with our child. She was, going to be God mother however, after that conversation, I said no.

The truth is my mother in law, lives on her own and is always emotionally guilt tripping my husband, regarding her loneliness and that nobody cares about her, but that is not true. Over the years, I've worked very hard to forgive and forget and to reach out and include her in our family and inviting her to our, family events such as birthdays, Christmases, Easters, school plays, family days, out her answer would always be sure you wouldn't want me there. We also invited and made her part of our last two children baptisms, were she was asked by my husband and I to be God mother to our last two children. I've put my feelings to one side, and to bite my tongue, on more than one occasion, for my husband's sake. But his mum still insists that she doesn't feel welcome in our home and she doesn't participate or involve herself as grandmother role with our 3rd child.

Things over the years were amicable, to begin with, for example she gave us furniture and kitchen appliances, for our first home and for our third home, she gave us some money to which I acknowledge and very appreciated of, but wouldn't any parent do the same, to help their child and their child's family if they could. But because of this, my husband, thinks that we should forget, all about the water that have gone, under the bridge.

You see, it's not as simple, as that, it has came out, in the wash, that over the years, my mother in law has been speaking badly about my husband and I, this happened before our eldest child moved out of home, (both children were going over to their Nanny's home on a regular basis, on a Friday evening).

Our middle child informed my husband and I, that his mother had been casting up old arguments and making belittling comments, about us, each time that the children went over. I mentioned this to my husband and he said, sure that's mum she's always been like that. I said, to him that your mum, isn't taken any responsibility, for contributing to the downfall, of our family unit, I said, she thinks that she hasn't done anything wrong. And my husband agreed. And said, she doesn't take responsibility for anything, that she's done wrong because in her eyes she hasn't.

However, last night my husband, took his mother, to see a consultant privately, regarding her health and because of what the consultant said, they are making out, as if she's on deaths door, even though no tests were done.

My mother in law, can be nice but when she's bad, she's one of the worst, and my husband would also have taken my mother in law's side, until lately, when he saw, what way his mother was yet again, interfering with us and our eldest child, (who she thinks is the golden child), rather than taken her own son's side.

And now because of this latest news, about her health and the fact that our eldest child, moved out of her home in March of this year, who has very little to do, with her now. My husband wants to ease his conscience, by sending our middle child over, even though she refused to go to our child's 15th birthday in late July to which she was invited to.

So, am I being unreasonable here, by preventing our child from going over?

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cexuwaleozbu · 17/08/2022 23:30

I'm afraid that this doesn't make much sense. Is perhaps English not your first language?

Your mil certainly sounds difficult, but is consistently and reliably so. You now know what she's like and you need to make a decision of how much she is in your life, and stick to that.

You can't be accepting gifts on the one hand and also refusing contact.

SparrowsNest · 17/08/2022 23:33

Would your 15 year old actually want to go?

MsMarple · 17/08/2022 23:33

She does sound difficult.

How does your son feel about going to his Nan’s on a Friday night?

CrossStichQueen · 17/08/2022 23:36

What does your 15 year old want to do?

JulesCobb · 17/08/2022 23:37

cexuwaleozbu · 17/08/2022 23:30

I'm afraid that this doesn't make much sense. Is perhaps English not your first language?

Your mil certainly sounds difficult, but is consistently and reliably so. You now know what she's like and you need to make a decision of how much she is in your life, and stick to that.

You can't be accepting gifts on the one hand and also refusing contact.

I could understand it without effort. Is English not your first language?

it sounds like your ds wouldn't want to go, so it is a non-issue. Tell your db to tell her that doesn't work for ds.

Brigante9 · 17/08/2022 23:40

WTAF?

MsDogLady · 17/08/2022 23:41

OP, I wouldn’t send your son into that toxic environment.

Your MIL undermines you and is hostile to you. She refuses to respect appropriate boundaries, and has a history of speaking badly about you and H to your older son when he stayed there. It would be a destructive move to send this boy there to assuage your H’s guilt.

BlueSuffragette · 17/08/2022 23:42

Families shouldn't be this hard work. Sounds a bit grim for your 15yr old to have to spend every Friday night with his granny who isn't much fun and sounds full of her own self importance. Why does your DH view on this arrangement take priority? Maybe he should go and see his mother each week instead of your son being expected to do it. Have you even talked to DS about this or just expect him to go?

Anonymous170822 · 17/08/2022 23:43

I haven't accepted the gifts my husband took them, I am a very independent person and would explain that to them both but my husband is a different person as to what I am and takes what she gives when I'm not around and tells me after the fact.

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parietal · 17/08/2022 23:44

if the 15 year old wants to go once in a while, then let him. but don't force the boy to go every week into a negative environment just to keep your MIL happy. the 15 year old would probably rather see his friends or do other things.

Greenqueen40 · 17/08/2022 23:46

Why on earth would you send your 15yr old son to his grandmothers every fri night to be exposed to her toxic shit?? That's madness, say no!

bluesky45 · 17/08/2022 23:46

Why are there so many commas in weird places? I'm not usually the grammar police but all the extra commas made it really hard to read!
I would suggest; ask the 15 year old if he wants to go to his Nan's house or not. He's old enough to make that decision.

NugsNotDrugs · 17/08/2022 23:46

Your 15yr old is a person. Not a bargaining chip!
if your mil is that awful then don’t encourage the relationship.
I wouldn’t want any of my dc to spend time with someone like that!

gamerchick · 17/08/2022 23:47

The bairns 15. It's up to them.

Anonymous170822 · 17/08/2022 23:55

parietal · 17/08/2022 23:44

if the 15 year old wants to go once in a while, then let him. but don't force the boy to go every week into a negative environment just to keep your MIL happy. the 15 year old would probably rather see his friends or do other things.

My 15 year old said that he does want to go but I have severe reservations

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Anonymous170822 · 17/08/2022 23:59

MsDogLady · 17/08/2022 23:41

OP, I wouldn’t send your son into that toxic environment.

Your MIL undermines you and is hostile to you. She refuses to respect appropriate boundaries, and has a history of speaking badly about you and H to your older son when he stayed there. It would be a destructive move to send this boy there to assuage your H’s guilt.

I agree thank you

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AussieMozzieMagnet · 18/08/2022 00:08

I found this too difficult to read with all those misplaced commas.

Saracen · 18/08/2022 00:11

It all depends whether your son wants to go see his grandma. He is old enough to cope with grandma slagging off his parents, if he wants to be with her. The same is true of your 18yo, so I am puzzled about your belief that she was instrumental in his decision to move out. He must have been old enough to know whether he wanted to leave the family home, regardless of anything his grandmother said.

She does sound very unpleasant, and I can absolutely see why you want nothing to do with her. If your 15yo doesn't want to see her, don't make him. But if he does want to see her, don't stop him.

Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:17

So your 18 year old moved out of your house and into his grandmothers house in 2019 (aged 15?), and has now fallen out with her and moved out, so she wants your middle child to start going round there every week instead? So she can try to alienate them from you next?

Or have I misunderstood the stuff about children moving in and out? I have to agree with a PP, that part wasn’t really clear. If she did alienate your oldest between age 15-18, like hell would I let her start on my second child.

Anonymous170822 · 18/08/2022 00:19

Saracen · 18/08/2022 00:11

It all depends whether your son wants to go see his grandma. He is old enough to cope with grandma slagging off his parents, if he wants to be with her. The same is true of your 18yo, so I am puzzled about your belief that she was instrumental in his decision to move out. He must have been old enough to know whether he wanted to leave the family home, regardless of anything his grandmother said.

She does sound very unpleasant, and I can absolutely see why you want nothing to do with her. If your 15yo doesn't want to see her, don't make him. But if he does want to see her, don't stop him.

I never said that she was instrumental on regards to my 18 year old moving out, she basically informed the child that once he turns 18 he doesn't have to live here.

I feel that she's a negative influence in regards to our Family. And everything is her terms, and she gets to pick and choose which Family members that she can associate with it's just not me or the baby of the family but the rest of the family is preferred by her.

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Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:23

I never said that she was instrumental on regards to my 18 year old moving out, she basically informed the child that once he turns 18 he doesn't have to live here

So where was your 18yr old living between 2019 and March 2022? With her? How did that come about? Are you saying you now think it was because she had been dripping poison in his ear for years during those friday teas?

Summerfun54321 · 18/08/2022 00:23

Is this cultural? I don’t understand why anyone would think this was a good idea. I’m all for living with the wider family but using them to support rather than alienate children from their parents.

Anonymous170822 · 18/08/2022 00:25

Changechangychange · 18/08/2022 00:17

So your 18 year old moved out of your house and into his grandmothers house in 2019 (aged 15?), and has now fallen out with her and moved out, so she wants your middle child to start going round there every week instead? So she can try to alienate them from you next?

Or have I misunderstood the stuff about children moving in and out? I have to agree with a PP, that part wasn’t really clear. If she did alienate your oldest between age 15-18, like hell would I let her start on my second child.

Apologies i wrote this on my phone without my glasses.

My eldest child (18) moved out in October 2021, to live with her until March 2022.

But now my husband suggested that the 15 year old starts going back over on Friday night.

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Anonymous170822 · 18/08/2022 00:29

Apologies, everyone the Eldest child moved out to live with MIL in October 2021 to March 2022

first* *that I've ever done this.

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LuckyLass22 · 18/08/2022 00:32

Why doesn't your husband go and stay there each Friday night?

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