Does anyone here work for a police sex crimes unit?

[TheDishWasher]

I would like to talk to my mp about trans rights and the trampling of womens rights and I am posing here for traffic.

Does anyone here work in the sex crimes area and would you have an opinion on the the movements of men into womens toilets, change rooms, etc? I am not looking to directly quote, more to clarify my own thoughts and to be sure I keep them tight.
I’m interested in any comments.

Many thanks in advance.

You'd be better off contacting the police or your MP directly.

I don't work for the police but am involved in that area.

In 5 years I have not had anybody assaulted or threatened by males in female spaces.
I have however had a few woman assaulted by lesbians in their own 'safe' space.
Sorry I know this doesn't fit with what you want to say but that's just my experience.

Please don't frame it as trans rights vs womens rights. You're effectively asking for one to take priority over the other. Trans people have the right to equal employment opportunities, to not be discriminated against, to vote and everything else.

The debate is not anti-trans and you feed the activists rhetoric when you try and make it so.

It's really simple - women have the right to expect the single sex exemptions stated in the EA to be available. And for organisations to not be afraid of invoking them and to be aware that it is perfectly legal to do so. More recently that holding a GC view that sex is immutable is a also a protected characteristic that no one should be discriminated against for holding.

None of the above is, or should be, anti-trans. And I wonder whether you're genuinely posting in good faith frankly.

Why not write what you think, then post here so that people can comment on how to tighten it up?

When people need to be told why they think something is wrong, it usually means that they know their own reasons for thinking it's wrong are not well founded.

I agree with @titchy

You're framing the whole situation as trans vs women and its making you come across rather hostile, whether that is your intention or not.

It's why people think mumsnet is a hotbed of transphobia.

Women are entitled, by law, to have single sex spaces.

Wholeheartedly agree

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Can't imagine anyone who works in a police sex crimes unit is really going to want to out themselves here, or put their name to something for you to send to your MP. Also how are you going to very anyone who says they work in this field, as anyone can be whoever they want on the internet?

The E A you are referring to isn’t applicable in my country.

Thankyou @PartyAtSueGrays , I appreciate your comment from your experience. If I take the personal position that most human experience is universal, then it adds to my perspective.

Most days there are toilet related posts here and it's obvious that there's no perfect solution! For what it's worth I think public buildings with large footfalls should have a combination of sex segregated facilities and also unisex fully self contained larger cubicles for those who either identify a different gender to their sex, are needed to help children/ambulant disabled adults or need a cubicle with a sink in it. Finally a baby change and a proper disabled toilet (ideally 2, one with changes spaces).

Small places like cafes are best served by fully self contained unisex toilets straight onto the corridor

The police sex crime unit will only come into it if a sexual offence has happened in these areas.

Thank you, everyone, for your comments.

I really wouldn’t be asking the police because so many officers seem to despise women.

Why not ask charities?

I agree with posters above.

I also have experiences (plural) of having problems with males in women's swimming pool changing rooms. I was a teen when the harassment happened by fellow teens who were apparently there with their mums (they definitely weren't). I was naked in a cubicle when they targeted me. It stopped me going swimming for years after, so it didn't happen after then. The individuals were biological males and I have no reason to believe they were trans.

The issue I have is with mixed-sex changing rooms. The Times did a freedom of information request about attacks on women in mixed sex vs single sex changing facilities in 2018 and found that significantly more women were assaulted in the mixed than single sex areas.

I don't have a share token for the original investigation, but you can read some data here:

fairplayforwomen.com/unisex-changing-rooms-put-women-in-danger/

No but it’s full of “journalists” who scour the site to repost things and call it an article..

If the EA2010 is not applicable in your country then you are not in the UK

• but in other posts you talk about the cost of items in terns of £'s

• and in another post the same day as this one you say you are also going to talk to your MP about the Tavistock GIDS (in London)

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4612593-does-anyone-here-work-for-a-health-insurer-or-reinsurer

• however you do not seem to be aware that the Tavistock is part of the NHS and that costs would not need to be met by health insurance.

Where on earth are you??

I am not in the UK.

I am quite aware that the Tavistock is NHS but mindful of Dennis Noel Kavanagh saying to Graeme Linehan that many other jurisdictions are aware of precedents set in the UK just as the UK is aware of precedents set elsewhere in the world.m.youtube.com/watch?v=YHVRmdl8vnA

I think that often the only way to force change is to hit the hip pocket which is why I asked my other question. £’s or $’s makes no différence.

I also think that there are many answers to a question.

We have elections due here soon so I will want to ask my candidates (starting with the incumbent) for opinions. But is my own thinking broad enough to frame those questions?

Has there been a crime committed towards you or a close friend or member of your family they you need to report to a sex crimes unit or are you just a melodramatic deeply horrible bigot?

If you're not in the UK, then the opinions of people who work in UK Police forces are surely not relevant? Its all well and good saying so many people get sexually assaulted in toilets in the UK, but pointless if it doesn't reflect the figures where you live.