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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
KyaClark · 15/08/2022 19:43

Good luck.

Gingefringe · 15/08/2022 19:48

Well done on your decision and be brave tonight ! How the ex had the cheek to expect someone else to parent her children is unbelievable - and where is their biological father in all of this?

ManateeFair · 15/08/2022 19:49

The ex will kick off but i have a block button

Ha! I think I’d block her preemptively at this point.

Any normal person in her position would understand that now that you are no longer with her child’s father, she has no business whatsoever even contacting you, let alone ‘kicking off’, but she is clearly a massive twat.

123derbyshire · 15/08/2022 20:01

So glad to hear you are chucking him out.

This situation was bonkers! Please update us on how it goes!

comedycentral · 15/08/2022 20:02

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sarahann1211112 · 15/08/2022 20:03

Hope you're OK OP let us know please

ManateeFair · 15/08/2022 20:06

I don’t think the ex is as batshit as he claims her to be either.
Just another women who snapped after realising what a mug she’d been.

Er… she has handed over her four children, three of whom are not his and have a dad of their own, over to an ex and his new partner every single weekend and then threatened to withdraw access to his one biological child if he didn’t agree to have her other kids, because she fancies having weekends off and refuses to deviate from that. I don’t think she is the one who has at any point been taken for a mug in this scenario.

LizzieSiddal · 15/08/2022 20:11

Glad you’ve realised you need to get rid of your partner!

You sound a lovely person but you must not let people take advantage of you, put your DC first.

SettingsO · 15/08/2022 20:26

God this was so stressful to read! So pleased to hear you are kicking him out.

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/08/2022 20:36

Hoping he’s gone now. Or almost finished packing.

How old are your own dcs op? Similar ages?

GingerScallop · 15/08/2022 20:37

Wow. He has found a nanny, a mother, a lover, free housing, payer of all his expenses, all in one woman. What a lucky man. What's so great about him?

Your children come first. Or at least they should. Kick him out. Then he can put up with that nonsense or really sort it.

Freeasabird76 · 15/08/2022 20:45

Get rid of him and his kids asap and put yourself and your dc first.This isn't going to get better.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 15/08/2022 20:50

First thing I used to ask potential partners when they wanted to move in when I was a single mum, have you got a job, what are you going to contribute to this household - you realise it's half of everything, why don't you have your own place? Do you have any kids because you can't see them here at my house.
All of them without fail disappeared. Funny that.

Wheretogon · 15/08/2022 20:51

Please think about the impact on your own children if this continues. They’ve not only hit you but your children too. I think your partner is abusing your kindness and because he doesn’t have to put up with it, he isn’t bothered about setting rules and boundaries. I really hope you make the right decision for your children’s sake.

KettrickenSmiled · 15/08/2022 20:55

I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway.

No they aren't.
I haven't even read further than this yet!

Your boyfriend, his ex, & the kids have no rights to your home.
If anybody tries to push this on you, refuse.
If they do not listen to your refusal, call the police. Get them turned away.

Because if your b/f is unable to hear your "no", is unable to perceive the disrespect & cost to you, he should no longer be in your life.

KettrickenSmiled · 15/08/2022 21:03

Ergh · 15/08/2022 17:18

He’s said that before so will be a no. I don’t think there’s a way around this now apart from just cutting ties, I’ve tried every option and nothing’s worked and now my children were hurt yesterday. Will only be a matter of time until they’re begging me to ‘try’ again. What if they punch my kids next? Not worth it. I don’t know why I asked if this was salvageable, i know it’s not 😞

I’m deffo smart enough to learn from this though.

Well done OP. You have your head screwed on right.

Maybe a break from dating for a while though? While you do The Freedom Programme, anyway. Obviously, you've dealt with the drama, but what happened to you - that your self esteem was so low that you allowed this man to cocklodge off you while you indulged his feral DC?
www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/online.php

That was NOT a criticism btw - had my own cocklodger, way back.
But you need to some barricades & flamethrowers boundaries to help you spot these kinds of men in future.

whynotwhatknot · 15/08/2022 21:05

youve got to laugh at theyve discussed it and the kids are coming still

its not even his house!

IReallyLikeCrows · 15/08/2022 21:07

I'm glad that you're sorting things out, OP. I also wish that people would read all the OP's updates (on any thread, not just this OP) and not be monumental arseholes by slagging off an OP who is doing everything right by telling her that she is useless and a doormat and... I agree with the poster who said it's like the frog thing. Clearly it was difficult but it got more and more difficult until the physical attacks and that was that. She did the right thing and what went before is over.

Despite what some posters have said, your children will be proud of you and grateful for doing what you're doing now. Yes, you got it wrong but you did so from a good place and with love. Any of us can do that and you do not deserve to be judged for getting it wrong when you are now doing everything to make it right again.

Readytoplay · 15/08/2022 21:08

It’s disappointing that this relationship isn’t going to work, but I know you know that it’s for the best OP.

That being said I am a bit shocked about some of the responses on here regarding the children. Let’s remember that these are children, not even teens, children. Personally, I would consider ringing social services as I think these kids are likely being neglected. When the mum cites mental health as the reason for the bad behaviour she is probably talking about autism or another neurodevelopmental disability (obviously not the same as a mental illness, but it wouldn’t surprise me if this ex is slightly ignorant when it comes to this). Therefore it is even more important that these kids get help, and by help, I mean from a professional support team not the new partner of her ex!

You do need to put your kids first and you’re doing the right thing by cutting ties with the family and ending the relationship.

But before you do please consider ringing social services because otherwise, this is going to happen throughout their lives and another person
Will experience what you have and it doesn’t take long to anonymously report to social services. when the children become adults, they will have to face the consequences of the way they behaved and perhaps we’ll be resentful no one saw the warning signs and got them help.

I know it’s not your responsibility when you’ve already done far too much for them, but I generally think this will help them. It might also make you feel better about kicking your partner out
Wishing you all the positivity and the best in the future 💐💐

PacMantra7 · 15/08/2022 21:11

Why are you putting up with this XXXX

Put yourself & your children first

End this relationship

Your ex(DP) needs to step up & parent his child

superplumb · 15/08/2022 21:20

Your child has been hurt so is chuck all the kids out with your partner. They're not his kids so why are they coming over. He needs to speak to a sol alto allow access to his own kid. His ex partner can fuck off and so can he unleash he should sort himself out. None of them are your issue

Solonge · 15/08/2022 21:21

OMG you are so lovely....and you have just been totally taken advantage of. Good lord the man is a menace! why should you be paying for a group of kids that are not yours, not his and who are nothing to you? You are literally paying your hard earned money to earn him brownie points? the children sound like they have received appalling parenting, clearly dont have good manners and are rude and entitled. You need to take your DP to one side and clarify this is your house, your money and this is ending now. Give him the opportunity to give his side....then think hard, because this could be your life for years...and why? why would you put up with this? Honestly....try saying absolutely not, no way, just no!

Fifife · 15/08/2022 21:25

Cocklodger who wants you to be an ATM machine, a maid and a nanny. Kick him out now put your DC first.

Polimolly · 15/08/2022 21:26

You have made a huge mistake. Stop being a doormat and learn to say "No"

kateandme · 15/08/2022 21:29

Well done op.
don’t let him soft soap you.he or they won’t change unless they actively work to do so.
don’t let them toss up your own home as well.it’s just not worth it.
plan a take out or fun day with your kids.or just chill knowing your homes at peace.duvet day?