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To think the Commonwealth has had its day?

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antelopevalley · 15/08/2022 12:50

The Commonwealth is a colonialist institution based on a history of conquest and slavery.

"The origins of the Commonwealth come from Britain's former Empire. Many of the members of the Commonwealth were territories which had historically come under British rule at various times by settlement, conquest or cession. The administration of such colonies evolved in different ways, to reflect the different circumstances of each territory."
www.royal.uk/commonwealth

The Commonwealth Games have never been held in an African country. Although there have been exceptions, most years it is held in Britain, Australia, New Zealand or Canada. Since 1930 it has only been held three times in other countries. Or seven countries if you include youth games and paraplegic games.

The Commonwealth has no clear role; it confers no trade privileges upon its members, does not coordinate their defence or foreign policy, and lacks both the budget and the executive authority to make a practical difference in the world.

It is a colonialist hangover that has no clear role and should be abolished.
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onlythreenow · 17/08/2022 10:47

So patronising for random posters to think they know what’s better for a country than the country itself does

Totally agree with this. It is nothing whatsoever to do with these "random posters" - maybe they would be better employed worrying about their own country.

DownNative · 17/08/2022 11:24

antelopevalley · 17/08/2022 00:51

Of course, there are trade agreements between countries that also happen to be in the Commonwealth. It would be very odd if there was not. The Commonwealth though is not a trading bloc.
Access to trade does not happen as a result of being a member of the Commonwealth.
The Commonwealth is a talking shop.

The Commonwealth Foundation gives out fairly small grants for projects. It gave out five grants in 2018 e.g. to set up 20 self-help groups for disabled people in rural areas. It is not any different from various small charitable foundations that give out grants.

As a talking shop, some small countries with not much influence will see it as useful to get access to leaders from larger and more powerful countries. For them, it is basically a networking organisation where they can build links and try and influence others.

Didn't you previously argue there's no economic benefits from Commonwealth membership?

Looks like you're shifting the goalposts. You're presenting a false dilemma Fallacy here as the Commonwealth does NOT need to be a trading bloc in order to have economic benefits for their members.

Small countries arent the only ones to benefit. The African states mentioned before who've laid out the benefits of Commonwealth membership aren't small countries.

Since the Commonwealth does help reduce tension between members, this does lead to economic benefits as a result. So does the radical action history of the Commonwealth itself.

Barbadossunset · 18/08/2022 10:17

@antelopevalley
Any thoughts on China’s influence on Commonwealth countries?

DownNative · 18/08/2022 11:40

Barbadossunset · 18/08/2022 10:17

@antelopevalley
Any thoughts on China’s influence on Commonwealth countries?

Crickets!

But then this thread has been a failed Nationalist bid to put down all things British. Good to see!

MuddlingMackem · 18/08/2022 12:50

@MangyInseam · 16/08/2022 03:16

I do wish that Commonwealth membership still conferred benefits like being able to go to university or to work in the UK, but they saw fit to remove that right which is their prerogative of course but sad IMO.

Isn't this something the government are now opening up to replace the Erasmus programme now that we're out of the EU?

Also, I hope that the UK government will up their involvement with other Commonwealth countries, I feel we sadly neglected them during our EU involvement and need to undo the influence China has managed to have during that time.

Augustiner · 18/08/2022 13:00

Yes, common wealth citizens can vote in general elections.

Augustiner · 18/08/2022 13:00

That should say common wealth citizens resident in the UK can vote in general elections.

Augustiner · 18/08/2022 13:00

That should say common wealth citizens resident in the UK can vote in general elections.

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