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AIBU?

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To not let my DS go on a holiday with his dad?

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MarieTr · 15/08/2022 09:21

DS is 7 and recently diagnosed with ASD, his dad and I split up 5 years ago. DS is what would be considered 'mild' or Aspergers, he struggles with his emotions and social communication, but very little other issues. DS's dad has always been very awkward and unreasonable. Recently, DS's dad's mother (so my ex-MIL) died in a very traumatic way. Since this, DS's dad has become unreasonable to the extreme, to the point I am genuinely concerned for his mental health and his contact time with DS.

DS's dad lives in a house share with 'random' people, and due to this, has never been able to take DS to his house. His contact time wasn't working well, because he ended up having to try and fill his Saturday / Sunday outside of any house, and sometimes planned activities didn't last long enough which would lead to DS and his dad sitting round for hours doing nothing. It was really negatively impacting DS's relationship with his dad. Whilst I appreciate this isn't my problem, I kindly allowed DS's dad to use my house on his contact weekend so he would have somewhere to take DS. It has irritated me the whole time, but I have let things slide, because I've tried to do what is best for DS.

Unfortunately, two weekends ago, things blew up. I came home and my house had been left in a mess, so I told DS's dad that he couldn't use my house anymore for his weekends, it was inconvenient, and as it had been going on for over a year, it was time for him to sort his own arrangements out. This lead to him swearing and shouting at me in front of DS, and telling DS, "your mum thinks I don't love you."

After the argument a couple of weeks ago I left it, trying to reason that it could be due to his recent mother's death, but he has been repeatedly sending me rude and abrasive text messages. I snapped on Saturday night and told him to stop being rude to me. He replied with the following...

  • It's his 'right' to be in my house and he doesn't need to be grateful or say thank you (he never has BTW), I only rent so it's not really my house anyway.
  • I rely on other people's resources, including his. This refers to his £50 he pays a week (the bare minimum). It also refers to the fact he is incredibly bitter that I get child benefit, DLA for DS and a UC top up, he has always been obsessed with my finances.
  • I was slagging him off at his mother's funeral and wake (categorically did not happen).
  • Probably most outrageously, that looking after DS was doing me a favour and he was going to stop doing anything he considered going out of his way for DS and therefore stop his favours to me.
Then, on Sunday morning, he was due to pick up DS for his football class. He didn't show up, so I took him. DS was very upset that his dad hadn't picked him up. We tried to call him but he didn't answer, so I told him via text message that it's not acceptable to let DS down. Then he messaged back, laughing, saying he told me he wasn't doing me anymore favours, and turned up at the end of the football class to pick DS up. I told him that he can't just have DS now and just randomly decide to pick him up, he'd need to rearrange with me later in the day, because it's not okay just to let DS down and then pick up him at random. He then proceeded to (very inappropriately in my opinion) ask DS, 'who would you rather spend time with today, me or MarieTR?' DS chose me. I then tried to text DS's dad about arranging to have him later that afternoon and I got another barrage of abusive messages. He didn't end up seeing DS.

So now we get to the crux of the issue. DS is due to go on a weeks break/holiday next week, this is with his dad and to see his grandfather (the grandfather whose wife recently passed away traumatically, they would be staying in his house in the UK). I know from speaking to DS's grandfather that he is very much in the depths of grief. I just don't feel the week's break is an appropriate place for DS, given the grief his grandfather is going through and DS's dad's recent terrible behaviour. I'm happy to host DS's grandfather for a week so he can still see DS and spend time with him, but I really don't feel comfortable sending DS.

AIBU? Sorry, I know it's very long, I hope I explained myself properly.

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Creepymanonagoatfarm · 15/08/2022 09:39

Seems to me it isn't appropriate for ds to be around his df right now. If you are happy to facilitate meet ups with dgf and ds that would be great.

birdling · 15/08/2022 09:47

He sounds horrible. Might it be better for your DS if he didn't have contact at all?

AluckyEllie · 15/08/2022 09:53

See a solicitor. He’s just going to be an arse and start playing games because he’s a small pathetic man with no life. See a solicitor and get formal advice/arrangements in place. Screenshot the messages. He’s just using your son to get back at you, he doesn’t seem to care about him at all

MarieTr · 15/08/2022 10:06

@Creepymanonagoatfarm Agreed. I'm happy to host DGF and would feel much more comfortable with that arrangement.

@birdling He is horrible. But usually he is a 'manageable' horrible. He's never said things about me to DS either, up until the last couple of weeks.

@AluckyEllie I've got all the messages as they were sent on WhatsApp. I've also got a Ring doorbell which recorded him swearing and shouting at me. Is it very costly to see a solicitor?

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10HailMarys · 15/08/2022 10:39

Absolutely do not let this man take your child on holiday. He's a shit dad who is abusive to you and by extension also his son.

birdling · 15/08/2022 13:50

It might not be forever, grief affects people in all sorts of ways. He may return to being less of a problem once he has had time to come to terms with his loss.
My own DH lost his dad during the last lockdown. He was awful (not abusive, but generally horrible to live with) to us all for a while, especially me, but he has now returned to the man he was before.
Protect your ds at the moment and be prepared to re-evaluate once his grief has had time to process.

MarieTr · 15/08/2022 18:24

Thank you both.

I am going to have a conversation with my DS's grandfather this evening and explain to him what has been happening. I just know that DS's father will accuse me of not allow him access and contact time, when it's not that at all.

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LightningAndRainbows · 15/08/2022 18:28

Yes I would say given his recent behaviour you aren't comfortable with arrangements. Suggest mediation for contact arrangement. Then escalate to court.

LightningAndRainbows · 15/08/2022 18:29

MarieTr · 15/08/2022 18:24

Thank you both.

I am going to have a conversation with my DS's grandfather this evening and explain to him what has been happening. I just know that DS's father will accuse me of not allow him access and contact time, when it's not that at all.

That sounds fair. If you feel it's important you could offer to take DS by yourself one weekend?

MarieTr · 15/08/2022 18:58

@LightningAndRainbows I would love to offer to do that but his grandfather lives approx. 3 hours drive away so would involve a big fuel bill + hotel etc. that I can't really afford at the moment, with everything increasing in price. I'm also self-employed so any time off is unpaid. I would happily host his grandfather here though, so I hope that he will be amenable to that suggestion.

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LightningAndRainbows · 15/08/2022 19:11

MarieTr · 15/08/2022 18:58

@LightningAndRainbows I would love to offer to do that but his grandfather lives approx. 3 hours drive away so would involve a big fuel bill + hotel etc. that I can't really afford at the moment, with everything increasing in price. I'm also self-employed so any time off is unpaid. I would happily host his grandfather here though, so I hope that he will be amenable to that suggestion.

Aw that's a nice idea. There's no pressure to do so though. Good luck with it all it sounds stressful. Take care

gobbynorthernbird · 15/08/2022 19:15

@MarieTr at this point I would be stopping contact due to the erratic and abusive behaviour. You do not need to see a solicitor to do this.

If your ex wants to argue this, let him start the official processes.

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