AIBU to think that everyone should strike

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AIBU to think that everyone should strike and noone should work, at least until the government will print some more money, or take some more loans out, and we will all be fine?

I'm going on strike. Fuck this government and its funnelling of the country's wealth to a handful of billionaires whilst the rest of us suffer.

The biggest striker is Johnson - he has done nothing at all since he lost the leadership (despite being paid and insisting on 'staying on'. Mind you - how much work he and this government have ever done is questionable, given the amount of partying they were doing.

oh dear. You think printing money is the answer? Then you are asking the wrong question.

Printing money non-stop for 14 years is what got us into this mess. Topped off by Covid lockdowns.

I thought everyone could go on strike, except police and armed forces. Happy to be corrected.

Those that can’t know that when they sign up to the job. And it’s not many.

I wonder how much we are now (continuing to) paying the price for selling off all our publicly owned utilities to the lowest bidder, and David Cameron, 'cutting all the green crap'? I think Liz Truss has promised to rid the country of solar farms as well so that'll probably win her some votes.

Yep. If l go on strike who's going to feed the people in the care home l work at.🙄

I'm fed up of it too but I also believe it's been a long time coming. There have been problems for years - farmers and suppliers have always been routinely undercut by supermarkets, the immigrants who were prepared to do the badly paid jobs are gone and the disparity between the rich and regular people has been growing for years.

The only way things will improve is if we get rid of the government and start again. I'd be more than happy to join a protest but strike action won't work for every sector.

That's not basic economics at all. Inflation is simply caused by more money being introduced into the flow, not by money being spent. What we have today is the effect of Boris using the cash printer during Covid AND diverting all the newly created cash flow into his friends' pockets. Had the flow been injected equaly into the economy, we'd have inflation but maybe not such a bad cost of living crisis.

And the cause of inflation in many other countries is?

It's bread AND circus. Circus alone is not enough as the idiots in charge are about to find out. They are so far removed from reality I don't think they realize how bad it is for the little folk. Again, symptom of just before major social turmoil ( in your example of the French revolution, it was "let them eat cake" )

Same... more money introduced in the economy via printing. The UK does not have exclusive rights on idiots running a country!

Also, the money printing was not the issue on its own. Inflation is not great but not cataclysmic either. The issue was that the new money went in just a few pockets, making them richer all the while making eveyone else poorer! So it is a double whammy!

I don't think the op is genuine. It's like the fake remainer posts after the referendum about "Now I won't be able to import champagne" to make it look like remainers were idiots making a fuss about nothing.

All of these things will happen.

The government will continue to print money and take out loans. That's been economic policy for most of this century and they won't stop now.

And people will strike. And possibly riot.

You want to keep warm this winter? Occupy royal palaces and residences. Occupy government grace and favour houses. Occupy all the flats sitting empty in Mayfair hoovering up property price increases. In particular occupy those owned by Zelenskiy, Putin and other oligarchs. Fuck em.

I'm expecting a lot of fake stupid opposition supporter posts until the next election.

Yep. If l go on strike who's going to feed the people in the care home l work at.

who is going to feed these people when they can’t recruit as the wages are so low? Mass vacancies in these areas so people are struggling anyway to get basic care

That isn't how it works. Printing money wont bring more petrol, gas, corn etc into existence. The same problem will exist just with even more inflation.

I wonder if there are any actual economists, working in the relevant areas, on this thread? I suspect not.

I agree, everyone in this country is way to happy to just bend over and get fucked like good little sheeple. Although I guess that's what they wanted when they voted tory.

Kisaki333 - Marie Antoinette never actually said "let them eat cake". I watched a documentary on it and there are quite a few things that people believe happened during the French Revolution that aren't true.

OP - The problem with striking is that if workers ask for a really high pay rise and get it, other workers then want the same (understandably), and that money has to be found from somewhere, so the cost is passed on to the consumer so it almost becomes like a viscous circle, wages go up, products go up, so it has to be in line with inflation.

Printing more money is what has caused most of the problems and inflation in the first place! Like adding fuel to a fire!

I don't really think this, it's just all a mess. Will put my head back in the sand.

I know this is a joke post, but I'll give a serious answer.

Printing more money, while holding everything else steady, just makes money worth less. It doesn't make any direct difference to overall spending power of everyone put together, though their may be individual winners and losers. For example, if the government added up all the money in existence, printed the same again, and gave it all to me, everyone else with savings would be able to buy half as much as they could before this happened, the other half of their savings would effectively have transferred to me.

On the other hand, every person-day lost to strikes makes us collectively poorer, due to the real goods and services not produced. Hopefully the burden falls mainly on the strikers, in loss of pay, but to the extent it doesn't, some other individual will lose. (It's no use saying the money will come from companies, ultimately all the money in companies belongs to individuals. I'm retired, my pension comes from money invested in the stock-market.)

In summary, there are no magical steps government can take to make all the population significantly better off, all they can do is take money from some people and give it to others.

The point of a strike is to cause disruption and force employers to improve working conditions. The ideal situation is that setting a strike date leads to a settlement and the strike never happens.

If you're afraid to withdraw your labour then you've got no spine and nothing will change.

To paraphrase what someone said, how well off we are depends on how much goods and services we produce. More striking will mean there is less of those, so we will overall be worse off. Changing the amount of money in existence, either up or down, won't make any difference to what we can consume, it will just make a difference to what it appears to cost.

To make an analogy, if you measure your waistline or bust size in inches, and want to change either of them, your options might be to put on or lose weight, or have some surgery. Or you could be really clever and make a new tape measure with different size inches, and achieve your objective overnight. Printing money as a means of solving economic hardship is in the long-term equivalent to just changing the tape measure and declaring the objective achieved.

Right I've severed on tuc sub committees and have been a full time union rep.
but isn't it strange that certain unions only strike i in the winter and under a Tory government...very 1974.
AnD it's mainly the unions with very left wing leaders.

I understand that prices are rising and wages ain t so nurses etc yes strike. Fully understand that underpaid staff. But university lecturers and train staff who's both median income is above average....ask your selves why