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Isle of Man

26 replies

Sallyh87 · 08/08/2022 22:01

To ask you to tell me anything you know about living on the Isle of Man.

I posted a similar question in Chat recently and got some really helpful responses but I am posting in AIBU for traffic and to see if anything further comes.

I am nervously considering relocation to Isle of Man.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4598279-isle-of-man

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Sallyh87 · 08/08/2022 22:10

sorry no idea how to remove the voting.

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Sellie555 · 08/08/2022 22:45

My friends moved there from Scotland about 10 years ago and absolutely love it! They have the most wonderful life, fresh air, countryside, lovely pace of living

its a beautiful beautiful place, they are always raving about what a fantastic lifestyle they have . We have visited them many times and also at one point considered moving there

SavoirFlair · 08/08/2022 22:46

Sallyh87 · 08/08/2022 22:10

sorry no idea how to remove the voting.

That’s ok! I’ve voted.

JanglyBeads · 08/08/2022 22:51

It's absolutely lovely, but obviously has limited amenities, and travel can be a PITA. So can getting things delivered.

Used to have relatives there.

Whatwouldnanado · 08/08/2022 23:01

Hi, I remember your original thread. Have you visited? Do you have friends or family there? It's a great place, really friendly community offering lots of sport, theatre and other culture if you want to get involved. Transport links and shopping are limited though, weather often slightly milder than England. More information on www.gov.im.

Northernlurker · 08/08/2022 23:03

You realise you don't qualify for nhs treatment when you visit the uk?

Northernlurker · 08/08/2022 23:05

Ab no ignore me that looks to have changed. I am out of date

Tr1skel1on · 08/08/2022 23:09

Relocate.im has lots of info. It's great but housing is practically London area prices

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 08/08/2022 23:42

lol voting is tongue in cheek - it does depend on a lot of factors but from what I hear it is not a great place to be a teenager.

SWSUN · 08/08/2022 23:49

It is the most gorgeous place to live. However as others have said you need to consider the practicalities of island life. Travel can be a PITA, prices are high and everyone does know everyone.

Healthcare is having a few issues at the moment and even at the best of times off island travel is needed for more serious things.

You need to visit and make sure your head isn’t turned by the breathtaking Manx beauty!

Tothemoonandbackx · 09/08/2022 00:36

Also, people loose their bank cards alot.....like...alot alot, visited 3 times in the past year and ended up on their lost and found page on FB as my OH lost his car keys whilst working over there. Just thought I'd throw this into the mix, 😂😂 and everyone DOES know everyone!!!!!!!!!

shebefierce · 09/08/2022 01:18

It's lovely. Not perfect, various challenges but far fewer than the mainland currently has. Health care is struggling, but certainly no long, long waits in a&e. I think our health care problems are fewer here. House prices are fairly high right now, but if you're willing to look at old manx cottages out of town then they're more reasonable and full of character. Our electric is still cheap, as the government owns the electric company. Gas is bloody expensive. Tax is fairly low. No water meters, no council tax. Just old fashioned rates which vary depending on location.

Kids are pretty safe. If they get up to something, you'll find out rapidly as someone will tell you. You've heard of the six degrees of separation? It's no more than one degree here once you get settled. Everyone knows everyone!.

My old house has no locks, never has had. My mum did have a problem once with unlocked doors years ago. The neighbours young daughter wandered in and painted the bathroom black. 😁 But never anything untoward, no theft. We had one spate of burglarys a few years ago, think it was a gang visiting from England. It stopped as fast as it started. Postie opens the door and pops post inside for me. Car theft is almost unheard of. The last car stolen had live reports on its movements on FB, the entire island was watching out for it and posting when they saw it!!!

FB is evil over here sometimes, very gossipy, judgmental and tale telling, best often avoided. Though if you ask for help on FB with anything people will fall over themselves to do the very best for you.

Pretty much full employment here. Schools are decent. Low crime and violence.

Blue seas, lots of wildlife, mountains, glens...its a pretty good place to live. PM me if you've got any specific questions :)

BarbaraofSeville · 09/08/2022 07:11

I go there fairly often for work and think it's a nice place if you're outdoorsy, would be a good place to get into sea swimming as the water is comparatively warm, also good for hiking and mountain biking.

There are quite a lot of flights to Liverpool and Manchester that aren't that expensive if you book ahead, so I think people go for shopping weekends if that's something that interests them, or visit family/friends or see shows in the UK. I think anything delivered by Royal Mail from the UK is normal price, but you may struggle with cheaper delivery companies like Yodel.

One of my business contacts was on the national news because she crashed her car (she was fine but everyone she worked with was taking the piss) so things like that, that get no attention in the UK get talked about.

The ladies at the hire car desk at the airport always remember me because I go all the way to the north of the Island (a lot of people never seem to go much further than Douglas) and they'll say things like 'oh I've not been up there for years, it's such a long way, are you sure you'll be OK on your own' (it's about 30 miles, and they've started giving me extra petrol in the hire car, normally you get enough to drive to Douglas and back).

I've also been for a holiday and there was definitely a different attitude to crime, it was a group activity holiday that involves expensive equipment and as 'city folk' we naturally took care of our belongings, careful not to leave things unattended in public and the locals would think nothing of leaving a bike unlocked or a camera on the harbour wall while they went to fetch the rest of the stuff from the van, that sort of thing.

You'd say things to them like 'could you just keep an eye on this while I go to the toilet' and they'd look at you as if to say 'why, what's going to happen to it'? The door to the house we stayed in didn't even lock either, but was useful for a group holiday as it meant we could all come and go independently without everyone needing their own key.

Asdf12345 · 09/08/2022 07:14

I worked there briefly and found it very pleasant. Would happily move there for a job with high enough pay.

The natives aren’t hugely welcoming to ‘comeovers’ by many accounts though there are so few of them as a proportion of the population that I worked with that it’s not something to worry about.

Tenpintonpin · 09/08/2022 07:49

We moved there when I was a child (dad worked for a Manx firm) and lived rurally. As English 'comeovers' we were not well received by the locals. My brother and I were physically bullied at school and my mum was ignored/excluded from everything - other mums literally turned their backs to her when she tried to say hello. I was only infant school age and found it all bewildering. After a few years things quietened down a bit at school but mum (who couldn't get a work permit) was still regularly ostracised and very unhappy - we moved back to mainland after five years. This was all a long time ago and I'm sure things are different now, but I would suggest looking at areas carefully; I imagine the population around Douglas is more 'diverse' and it might be a better bet as a place to live.

Agrudge · 09/08/2022 09:32

I've only visited , but it's nice weather can be a bit shit and crossings on the ferry can be rough and expensive.

Loads of nice scenery, baskin sharks, seals ,dolphins some roads have no speed limit which is great. Davies ice cream is nice. Being an island things cost a bit more not fuel though . I was pleasantly surprised by that on a recent trip

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 09:34

I'm Manx, live on the Isle of Man, but my family is English, I married Manx and we lived in the UK for a long while, only returning for DH's job. Given the chance I would much rather live in the UK.

I do wonder if some of the replies on here are from people living here now! Yes, you do need to lock your doors in town! Things do get stolen, though on the whole you can leave your bike unlocked.

The countryside is beautiful, gorgeous beaches, often deserted, lots of safe places to swim. Great hiking. The weather however isn't great, it rains a lot or is misty for days, it's often windy. If you hate summer you'll love it. Today and yesterday have been the first two hot summery days so far, it was 21 degrees yesterday. Generally it is milder, but there are less of the frosty sunny crisp days that make winter bearable.

Not sure who mentioned it (might have been the other thread). But you are still entitled to NHS care across (on the mainland), but only the care you need to get you back on your feet and only for a certain length of time. But don't worry you won't be billed for A&E etc whilst across. Insurance is recommended, especially for repatriation (I'd hazard that most Manxies don't bother).
Healthcare is patchy, there are ridiculous waits for some things. Other things are better. We have sat in A&E for hours. Complex things are done across.

Education is a big, big issue. Primary schools are good, no sats, in fact the island as a whole is great for younger children. But if you intend to stay longer then there are issues. Teachers have been working to rule on and off for ages, this won't really be a problem for your toddler and hopefully will be resolved before you need high school.
High schools are where the problems are. Manxies are prone to raving about the quality of the education, but when you've experienced decent education in the UK, then you realise it is poor, choices are limited. Our school was shocking during lockdown. Catchment areas are strict these days, so research where you want to live.
Also be aware of the issues that being a Manx resident can cause, even if you move back to the UK. If your child is university age then you will be unable to access student loans in either the Isle of Man or the UK for a certain amount of time. Funding for uni is different on the island. Although as your child is so young that could all change.
My kids were very proficient at two sports, unfortunately neither of which they can now do on island.
Kids can drive at 16 here, most seem to have cars.

If you have family across, then the travelling can get very expensive and restrictive. My parents are elderly and having to make sudden ferry trips with the car at £250 - £500 each time is crippling. Plus every holiday has to include a visit to them, which eats into leave time. Whereas before we could just hop onto the motorway. Flights can be hit and miss, fine if you can book ahead. But at shorter notice plus car hire it works out expensive. Plus flight operators come and go and banking on a certain route is risky.

Getting bigger things things delivered can be pricey. Ikea don't deliver, you can use onwards shipping companies, but it adds hugely to the cost.

Shopping is limited. Food is expensive, no Lidl, no Aldi. I stock up the car when I go across and am always amazed how much further my money goes.

There is still a bit of a "comeover" attitude, I've had it as I have non Manx parents and I've lived a lot of my life away. But it's subtle and not like it used to be, thank God. People are generally lovely. Fifty percent of the population is not Manx, but people are transient and a lot don't stick it out or there's the banking population who seem to flit between different banking jurisdictions.

Yes, FB is evil over here 😅 But I think it is wherever you live.

Tax is generally less, but really on an average wage cost of living will eat that away. Couples can be jointly taxed, which has been helpful for us when I've not worked. No ss benefits for 5yrs, with the exception of child benefit. There are work permits, not sure how that pans out if you are working remotely.

Feel free to PM me.

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 09:39

Davies ice cream is nice

Davisons. But things have moved on, The Gelatatory in Ramsey is where the good stuff is. I should have mentioned that, the ice cream is very, very good 😄

We had a brief spell of fuel being cheaper, but rest assured normal service has been resumed. Leave the island with an empty tank, return with a full one!

BarbaraofSeville · 09/08/2022 09:49

Yes, last time I went (last October?) I remember the fuel was cheaper than the UK and was talking to my work contacts about it. A couple had said they had recently been over here and not come back with a full tank for the first time in years because it was cheaper at home.

Taking notes about the ice cream because I need to come over again soon. I remember having a good one in Peel some time ago but no idea where it was from - an ice cream shop fairly near the castle is all I can remember.

I normally have a couple of hours spare while I'm over so just generally drive around and look at stuff. It's years since I've been to Ramsey so I think this year's mission is to go there and get an ice cream from The Gelatatory.

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 09:50

will pay overseas student fees

Just reading through the other thread. Although it's not relevant as your child is young, Manx uni students don't pay overseas fees and are classed as home students now. But funding is different.

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 09:55

I remember having a good one in Peel some time ago but no idea where it was from - an ice cream shop fairly near the castle is all I can remember

Peel will be Davisons.
The Gelatatory is to die for. If you have FB, they are here-
m.facebook.com/225735321341755/

Agrudge · 09/08/2022 09:57

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 09:39

Davies ice cream is nice

Davisons. But things have moved on, The Gelatatory in Ramsey is where the good stuff is. I should have mentioned that, the ice cream is very, very good 😄

We had a brief spell of fuel being cheaper, but rest assured normal service has been resumed. Leave the island with an empty tank, return with a full one!

Sorry my mistake davisons .

Wish I knew about the gelatatory in ramsey. We stayed at the ramsey park hotel in june

SofiaSoFar · 09/08/2022 09:58

alot.....like...alot alot

Even repeated three times it's still not a word. 🤣

(Sorry, couldn't resist. 😊)

Strangerthanever · 09/08/2022 10:05

SofiaSoFar · 09/08/2022 09:58

alot.....like...alot alot

Even repeated three times it's still not a word. 🤣

(Sorry, couldn't resist. 😊)

Meh, I'm sure you could have resisted. I think we all know what the poster meant.

Tothemoonandbackx · 11/08/2022 10:31

@Strangerthanever thanks for that ☺️, some posters actually CAN resist, they just choose not too 😂 whatever makes their little lives happy I guess, haha X