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Talk to neighbour about fence

16 replies

cat234 · 08/08/2022 20:44

I’ve lived in my house for about 4-5years. My garden backs onto the garden of another house, which is on the next street. On plans, this fence, along the ‘back’ of my garden is the neighbour. It continues along to form the back of another neighbours garden as well, so is quite a long fence for this house to maintain, 6 panels in my garden and about 4/5 in the next garden.

Its never been in great condition, bit of a mismatch of flimsy panels and wooden posts. An elderly couple live/d there, didn’t ever see much of them, I know the husband died a couple of years ago though. The lady has carers come in, but does come to the door to see them off etc, so isn’t bed bound. Their adult son comes round periodically, but has some sort of additional needs I think.

The old man used to ‘bodge’ things and would periodically whack a couple of nails in to try and hold the fence up for another year. Now it is buggered though! Some slats have fallen off, a heavy creeping plant is growing up it on their side and pushing it over, and now it’s leaving on my shed roof and bowing that.

What do I do? Im not happy with it damaging my shed and if it loses any more slats my dog will be able to wander through to onto their drive way/straight onto the road. Do I go round and speak to the old lady? She will probably be able to come to the door, but not sure how much she’ll be able to arrange? Speak to the son? The odd bit I’ve seen off him, I think I’m unlikely to get far with that conversation? Offer to arrange for a quote for the work for her to pay for it? I’ve considered contributing to a new fence myself, but don’t really have the spare money for it at the moment, and it’s frustrating that it’s clearly never been properly sorted, just bits of random wood patched onto the panels over the years which is why it’s in the state it is now. Neither though do I want to upset or stress the old lady about needing to get it sorted…but it really does!

OP posts:
cansu · 08/08/2022 20:49

She is not under any obligation to even have the fence. She could have it taken down and put nothing in. She could put up a roll of chicken wire. You seem to think she has an obligation to keep your dog out. You could put up your own new fence on your side of course.

Nekomata · 08/08/2022 20:50

I think pop over and have a chat. They might have the money to replace it either. If it’s dangerous they need to repair it, but I don’t think they have a duty to provide a fence to keep your dog in.

rwalker · 08/08/2022 20:50

The plans show the boundary rather than who owns the physical fence.
Thing is there no obligation to have a fence she'll probably just have it taken down and leave it .
You need to secure your own garden for your dog thats not your neighbours problem.
Tell the son fence damaging your shed

Nekomata · 08/08/2022 20:51

Obviously I meant might NOT have the money. Do you think it can be repaired to stop it damaging your shed? Would you be willing to help with costs?

SarahSissions · 08/08/2022 20:52

As long as it’s not dangerous it’s fine. If it damages your shed she’ll be liable for the damage but the obligation to keep the garden secure for the dog is yours

Nekomata · 08/08/2022 21:32

Also, a cheaper solution would be to pop round with some garden shears and cut back the plant that is damaging the panels.

TempName01 · 08/08/2022 21:59

Sheds are supposed to be built with (I think) 40cm clearance from the fence

cat234 · 09/08/2022 06:48

Thanks everyone. I know she doesn’t need to provide something to keep my dog in. But it’s still frustrating! The way their fence is, it’s so wonky, I’d lose a decent amount of my garden having to put something up on my side. It’s not just a straight line! Anyway, if I have to, I have to.

My shed was built a fair way back from their fence. I could fit between the shed and fence to paint it, a bit of a squeeze, but definitely a good gap. Now I can’t as the fence is leaning over so much. I’ve looked now and the plant has destroyed the panel, so to cut it down the whole fence panel would be broken I think.

I’ll go round and talk to her about me cutting the plant back I think first to at least get that off my shed. And see from there what is said, thanks for the opinions 🙂

OP posts:
carefullycourageous · 09/08/2022 06:55
  1. Their fence/plants should not encroach on your garden/shed or cause any damage
  2. They are entitled to allow their fence to fall down
  3. Your dog's enclosure is your problem
TenRedThings · 09/08/2022 06:55

Buy a role of wire fencing and attach it to the broken fence. A Few wooden fence posts hammered in on your side could straighten up the leaning over, cut ack the encroaching plants. This is a cheaper, easy option that will keep your dog in and you can make happen autonomously.

carefullycourageous · 09/08/2022 06:57

The way their fence is, it’s so wonky, I’d lose a decent amount of my garden having to put something up on my side. It’s not just a straight line! Anyway, if I have to, I have to. You can return their fence to their side and build in the correct place. The boundary is where it is. They do not get to encroach on your garden.

Nekomata · 09/08/2022 07:16

I think going round for a friendly chat is always the best first move. then, take things from there.

Most people are reasonable about these things and hopefully she'll arrange to have it fixed and the garden weeds cut back.

TempName01 · 09/08/2022 09:15

You can cut back any plants that are hanging on your side

Movinghouseatlast · 09/08/2022 09:24

You can put your own fence in front of that fence, wholly on your land.

I think it's unlikely she will start caring about the fence at this stage as they never have before and there is no legal obligation for her to have a fence.

Look up the law on fences on gov.uk

Movinghouseatlast · 09/08/2022 09:24

You can put your own fence in front of that fence, wholly on your land.

I think it's unlikely she will start caring about the fence at this stage as they never have before and there is no legal obligation for her to have a fence.

Look up the law on fences on gov.uk

CrotchetyQuaver · 09/08/2022 09:32

I've seen this time and time again with elderly neighbours, their view is so frequently the fence will be good enough to see me out. Maybe down to money?
I think if you really want this doing you need to be prepared to pay for it yourself. You may be lucky and get her to pay half, but I wouldn't be too sure of that.

By the way the cost of fencing materials has absolutely shot up, she really may not be able to afford it

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