To find many people irritating and selfish?

[Iamkaos]

I'm wondering if I'm just miserable or if it's something anxiety related maybe.
Im also very sensitive to noise which doesn't help, and don't drink at all and can sometimes find drunk people irritating.
Taking the train tonight, there were groups of young men chanting football songs at the top of their voices, completely bellowing them. Laughing like hyenas, shrieking. They're not expected to be silent but I see this so much, they have zero consideration for other passengers. Sometimes start goading other passengers too.
There are people who must be driving twice the speed limit who don't even signal, with deliberately noisy tampered with exhausts to make sure everybody hears them.
Young men who think it's 'hilarious' to shout at you out their car window as they drive past or as you're riding a bike. Yeah that's really safe, try and make me jump when I'm riding down a busy road.
I've noticed this is mainly related to drunk young men. Everybody else on the trains seems so calm and like they don't care, I do my best to ignore them but their noise and attitude just drive me mad. I did tell them to shut up once a few years ago.
Does anyone else get bothered by this?

YAB a but U. Shouting out the windows is unacceptable and dangerous - like you said. But you can't control people enjoying themselves after they've had a drink. As long as they are not intimidating you or threatening you, or behaving in a horrible way, what's it got to do with you? This is more to do with you and your sensitivity when it comes to noise and your looking down your nose at people who dare have an alcoholic drink.

I don't think that's quite the case, I'm not looking down on anyone who drinks.
It's true that they aren't intimidating me, it's just not pleasant riding a train when you've got people shrieking at top note the whole journey. They're allowed to enjoy themselves, but surely they must understand that not everyone wants to listen to that?

They're allowed to enjoy themselves, but surely they must understand that not everyone wants to listen to that?

Everybody else on the trains seems so calm and like they don't care

I really don't think people are considerate like they used to be. Noisy exhausts at all hours, dogs barking forever, kids squealing endlessly.

In the situations you've described here you're not being unreasonable. These people are indeed irritating and annoying and most other people on the train will feel the same way although they don't show it.

Sometimes I wonder whether young men of the type you describe are actually completely oblivious of other people (as people can be very self obsessed).

Personally I find this sort of behaviour very intimidating and anti social; there’s a sinister undertone to it, they are breaking unspoken societal rules, so how far will they go? Being in a group emboldens them. Alcohol adds another unpredictable element.

Everyone else will be uncomfortable too. I find it equally bad with young women and older football fans though, it’s not just young men but I suppose they come across as most intimidating to women.

I quite like seeing people having fun on a hot day.

Just young men?

Ever seen a hen party out on the town?

I hate it too. The groups of loud, leery blokes thing is horrible, it's a power trip thing I think, they're in a big group so no-one would dare stop or challenge them and there's that unspoken threat that things could turn violent.
It's very different to a group out having harmless fun.

Probably other people are just looking studiedly blank as the last thing you want is to draw their attention.

Yeah, this is a bit one sided in faux concerne, I could relate many stories where it was drunk young women kicking off on trains and plains whilst the younge men was just passengers.

It's a coming of age situation and you already having a bias, if some would shrug of stupidity of youth scenario and not try to force an idpol narrative into it, we may start apllying the so called critical thinking that should be basic of an RG uni degree that apparently all have. .

I understand your feelings OP

I don't ride a bike, but eek, that must be dangerous.

I can't work out if anti social behaviour actual is worse than say, five years ago, or if it just seems worse due to overpopulation.

looking blank on public transport is definitely a tactic but I will get off the Tube if I think there won't be another lot on the next one.

I think all the behaviour you describe is bad, antisocial behaviour that most people don't like - but that also most people wouldn't give too much thought to, it would be a mild irritant. So I think you're not at all unusual to dislike the behaviour but if you're finding it has a big impact then that might be an anxiety symptom - which doesn't mean you're wrong to feel like that, but might help understand why other people seem to cope 'better'; they're genuinely not finding it as hard as you do.

Definitely not unreasonable.
Everyone seems so loud with no self awareness these days. All me, me, me.

er...do you use public transport much? Many of us are super careful around thuggish groups.

I think they know exactly what they are doing and yes, there is a sinister undertone because no one person can speak up without taking a risk of being verbally abused or worse.

People have raised these “young men”. Some of them on here.

Exactly. Another one of those threads. BTW on the tube home today, there was the rowdiest bunch of women shrieking and pissed on a hen do.

YANBU. Many people are irritating and selfish, so of course you'll find them so. Both men and women, but men do tend to come across as more intimidating, simply because men are more likely than women to lash out violently.

Ladies' Day at the races is the worst.