Parts of the UK are a bit messy and run down - there, I've said it. Will these be enough to get me referred to the Prevent programme for vilfying the UK?

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www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/former-counter-terrorism-police-chief-attacks-rishi-sunaks-prevent-plans

"The former chancellor announced measures to beef up the Prevent programme on Tuesday night, as part of a bid to boost his flagging campaign to succeed Boris Johnson as the next prime minister.
These would lead to more people being referred to Prevent by widening the definition of “extremism” to include those who “vilify” Britain, with Sunak pledging to focus on “rooting out those who are vocal in their hatred of our country”.
But former counter-terrorism chief Sir Peter Fahy, who was also chief constable of Greater Manchester police, questioned the precise meaning of “vilification”.
He said: “The widening of Prevent could damage its credibility and reputation. It makes it more about people’s thoughts and opinions.
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“It is straying into thought crimes and political opinions.”"

I could go further:

The Monarchy is an outdated system and needs reforming or getting rid of.
FPTP is unfair
The House of Lords needs scrapping
Some countries have a better form of devolved Government
The public transport system in this country falls behind some other countries
Brexit was a bad idea and we are an insulated nation

This is not about debating these subjects - but a question behind what vilifying means and when does an opinion become an extreme opinion that needs referring to Prevent

So feel free to add your opinions and get ready to pack your bags to the re-education camps

Does calling elected leaders of UK nations names count as vilifying the UK?

Asking for a friend.

Yours Nad and Jac.

It’s interesting isn’t it that this strange breed of Tory keep banging on about ‘small state’ and ‘freedom’ but wish to have increasing control... These are not Tories they are something more sinister. They despise the U.K.

I cannot wait for the next General Election and I’m sure the rational wing of the Tories feel the same so a root and branch clean up of the party can be done.

Half of this website would be referred at that rate.

And my own partner, hes constantly running this country down

And so do I since the B word happened, we're not fit for purpose

Pretty scary.

It seems we've lost the right to protest and now he wants to do something that could effectively remove our right to raise valid concerns or complain in any manner.

Surely this is aimed at the sort of things hate-preachers say like "Death to the UK" and "Burn the UK" at a rally in the UK? CBA to read it though.

Yes…

but its just a hop, skip and a jump from that to ‘bojo is a twat’ or ‘random town is a shithole’ or ‘labour’ sucks

Oh bum…should be ‘labour sucks’

Vast populated swathes of the UK are a bit crappy

Medical care is a joke and it's not free as such - NI payments contribute to it

The government is like a bad episode of the Apprentice

Am I about to be dragged off for 'reprogramming' ?

A big hop….but a hop nonetheless

Will the Government be demanding Twitter and other social media platforms hand over user ID's

Or can they already do that? Is this website being monitored?

I’m guessing they want us all to be forced to say how great Brexit’s going or something. Next Truss will one up him and state all children will be forced to sing the National Anthem daily.

Telegraph reading retired Colonels must be wanking themselves raw with all of these announcements.

The devil is in the detail always, but I should imagine that this is aimed at international terrorism. You are very sheltered if you are still unaware of the level of hate for the West. Ukraine is at war with Russia with U.K. support, and tensions between the US and China look like they’re growing. As the US’s lapdog we’ll be in trouble with that. I doubt very much I will be hearing from anyone for using that insulting phrase about the U.K.

The National Anthem...

Well, TBH, it's a bit shit. I don't believe in God and the Monarchy doesn't need saving.

That made me laugh out loud!

I'm all for deradicalisation then. I'll criticise the Government and its policies and the RF as much as I want, if they deserve it. Book me in! What do I have to do?

As he is trying to appeal to those who will vote him in who have extreme views on all Muslims, it's a vote catcher. And it's pathetic.

Plus it is an absolutely rubbish tune dirge

‘Vilify’ is such a broad term too. It could apply to anything the government of the day says it does.

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/vilify

to say or write unpleasant things about someone or something, in order to cause other people to have a bad opinion of them:

Sometimes, the UK weather is a bit shit.

He is so fucking desperate to be PM. It's pathetic.

Freedom for some. Control for others.

Good to see some of the social media reactions

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rishi-sunak-tory-leadership-policy-torn-apart_uk_62ea4a54e4b00f4cf235e32e

We are led by corrupt liars whose policies are designed to protect themselves and line their own pockets.

Our health system and public transport are falling apart. Our roads are crumbling, people cannot afford to eat, never mind heat. Every single public service has been undermined by the Tories Our freedom to protest is being taken from beneath our feet. I could rant on and on.

The rest of Europe looks at us with astonishment, horror and some bemusement.

Am I proud of this country as it stands right now? No. It is only being held together by the good will and frayed nerves of those who care enough to struggle on and try and keep going.

I guess I'm going on their list.

I'm honestly bordering on hating it tbh, because of these idiots. @OhYouBadBadKitten summed it up for me. There's so much to fix and this is the shite he's focusing on 🙄.

Where do we volunteer?
Perhaps we should all write to him asking to be put on it?

If the re-education camps have heating, they may be the place to be this winter.