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Forestgate · 01/08/2022 16:50

Archie battersbea- tiktok should be paying for his lifetime medical support and then compensation on top

Absolutely horrific and these companies don't care and get away Scott free

They need to be brought to justice . His family should sue

Don't let your children or teens use these platforms

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Forestgate · 01/08/2022 20:12

Carrieonmywaywardsun · 01/08/2022 19:14

There's no way to prove whether tiktok influenced his actions or not, and 'influence' itself cannot be policed. It could've been anyone telling him to do the challenge, if that's what it really was. It hasn't been proven to even be the tiktok 'trend', it could've been suicide.

He can't be kept in this state forever, but perhaps some compensation would make it easier for his family to say goodbye. Money isn't everything, and sometimes there's no one to blame

Yes very fair thank you

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Forestgate · 01/08/2022 20:16

Kerrrmieee · 01/08/2022 19:42

PAPYRUS

Final word.

@Kerrrmieee sorry I don't understand this reference would you mind explaining ?thank you

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Forestgate · 01/08/2022 20:16

Thanks everyone for your comments interesting reading

All so very sad

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GirlInACountrySong · 01/08/2022 20:18

It's only 'believed' he took part in a challenge

Not proven

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 01/08/2022 20:21

He committed suicide. No evidence of this challenge on TikTok. He had no phone recording him which if it was a TikTok challenge, would have been there. He's also under the age of consent for TikTok. This has nothing to do with them.

Suzi888 · 01/08/2022 20:22

The TikTok 'blackout challenge' has now allegedly killed seven kids. TikTok is facing multiple lawsuits from parents who say their children died of strangulation attempting the “blackout challenge,” after the app showed them videos of other people trying it.7 Jul 2022

Forestgate · 01/08/2022 20:22

@GirlInACountrySong yes I see thanks. Such a sad and messy situation

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BungleandGeorge · 01/08/2022 20:26

I don’t know anything about this case. However, I absolutely agree that many platforms do absolutely nothing to safeguard children or vulnerable adults. They are extremely rich companies why do people think it’s ok? They could and should do so much more to remove some of the disgusting content, they don’t even do it half the time when it’s reported to them. We protect children from buying cigarettes, alcohol, seeing age restricted films at the cinema etc because they are damaging but on social media you can select the wrong age no questions asked. As a society we need to do more, I honestly think the rise in mental health problems in young people can be partly traced to social media so as a society we need to say it’s not acceptable

Forestgate · 01/08/2022 20:28

BungleandGeorge · 01/08/2022 20:26

I don’t know anything about this case. However, I absolutely agree that many platforms do absolutely nothing to safeguard children or vulnerable adults. They are extremely rich companies why do people think it’s ok? They could and should do so much more to remove some of the disgusting content, they don’t even do it half the time when it’s reported to them. We protect children from buying cigarettes, alcohol, seeing age restricted films at the cinema etc because they are damaging but on social media you can select the wrong age no questions asked. As a society we need to do more, I honestly think the rise in mental health problems in young people can be partly traced to social media so as a society we need to say it’s not acceptable

Yes exactly this. I think this is what has got me so wound up. No scrutiny of these enormously wealthy hugely influential international companies

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CbaThinkingOfAUsername · 01/08/2022 20:36

Social media in general is an absolute scourge on society.

lljkk · 01/08/2022 20:41

Anyone else remembering the sexual self-strangulating phase that actually killed a sitting British MP in 1990s?

Emmelina · 01/08/2022 20:44

He had no phone with him, IIRC. Social media challenges are intended to be filmed, surely?

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drpet49 · 03/08/2022 07:46

“He committed suicide. No evidence of this challenge on TikTok. He had no phone recording him which if it was a TikTok challenge, would have been there. He's also under the age of consent for TikTok. This has nothing to do with them.”

^This. It is quite evident what happened here.

Mally100 · 03/08/2022 09:06

BungleandGeorge · 01/08/2022 20:26

I don’t know anything about this case. However, I absolutely agree that many platforms do absolutely nothing to safeguard children or vulnerable adults. They are extremely rich companies why do people think it’s ok? They could and should do so much more to remove some of the disgusting content, they don’t even do it half the time when it’s reported to them. We protect children from buying cigarettes, alcohol, seeing age restricted films at the cinema etc because they are damaging but on social media you can select the wrong age no questions asked. As a society we need to do more, I honestly think the rise in mental health problems in young people can be partly traced to social media so as a society we need to say it’s not acceptable

It's not comparable at all. What do you think should be done?? With cigarettes and alcohol you can physically see the child and ask for proof. How do you think selecting an age at home unseen can be verified and restricted? I would love to know what solution you would propose.
The only safeguarding will be to not allow online access, which would start at the parents/adult first.

ChagSameachDoreen · 03/08/2022 09:13

Archie committed suicide by hanging. Nothing to do with TikTok. He wasn't filming it.

BungleandGeorge · 03/08/2022 09:32

Mally100 · 03/08/2022 09:06

It's not comparable at all. What do you think should be done?? With cigarettes and alcohol you can physically see the child and ask for proof. How do you think selecting an age at home unseen can be verified and restricted? I would love to know what solution you would propose.
The only safeguarding will be to not allow online access, which would start at the parents/adult first.

Poor multi billion pound industry having to put some time and effort into improving safety. How about they moderate it or respond to concerns flagged to them? Perhaps read some of the information about how these sites work?
when I got the nhs app I had to provide ID
when I buy online from pharmacies they do an ID check
i opened a bank account online and they did all the checks without me present
It’s not actually that difficult to check identity online, why would you defend making no effort to check anything when it’s very obvious it’s hurting children?
you do realise that there are publicly accessible computers in cafes, libraries, schools and many other places so how do you think parents are going to control that?

Itiswasitis90 · 03/08/2022 09:41

It's a difficult subject, I think all SM should be over 18s but what difference does it make? Children under 13 are using it.

I do think companies should be doing more but if parents can't prevent their child accessing it but hope does the company have?

It's very sad and I don't think anyone is ultimately to blame.

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