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ALDI Organic dark chocolate is now vegan and contains hazelnut - hence not suitable for nut allergies - Grrrr

99 replies

successstories · 01/08/2022 09:45

I'm really fed up of this nonsense. They keep on withdrawing food options, it's insane!

OP posts:
lljkk · 01/08/2022 14:01

It's chocolate... not actually an essential food group.

girlmom21 · 01/08/2022 14:09

lljkk · 01/08/2022 14:01

It's chocolate... not actually an essential food group.

People with special dietary requirements should be able to enjoy treats just like everybody else.

MrsAvocet · 01/08/2022 14:41

girlmom21 · 01/08/2022 14:09

People with special dietary requirements should be able to enjoy treats just like everybody else.

Agree.
In some ways I'd say that on a day to day basis not being able to get "nice" things to eat is one of the hardest things about having dietary restrictions. Yes, obviously not dying is top priority, followed by ensuring adequate nutrition but I never found that particularly difficult to be honest. But the years of not being able to have the cake at friends' birthday parties, getting nothing when everyone else is given a selection box or Easter egg at community events, and having the option of fruit (if you're lucky) or nothing for dessert in the vast majority restaurants are the kind of things which have impacted on my son's life . Yes, you do get used to it, yes, there are far worse problems to have and no, it's not the end of the world if you rarely eat dessert, but it does impact on day to day life quite a bit.

BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 15:24

I havr every sympathy with allergy suffererers.
But calling veganism a choice or 'fad' implies that animal cruelty is not a choice or trend in itself. OP doesn't get to dictate other people's moral compass and in return won't be judged.
It's only when people start spouting about how veganism is not a valid choice and just a trend that I would point out that OP is actively wanting cruelty to happen so they can get their way. Some people don't want to partake in the dairy industry or have dairy allergies. That should be fine. Ditto nuts and gluten.
Ops issue is not with vegans, it's with the fact that companies chase profit and at present the allergy/dairy free market is easier or more profitable for them. Plenty of things have milk in them and that sucks for vegan and milk allergy sufferers, but I don't see posts blaming the nut allergy crowd.
Because that would be dickish.

Plumtreebob · 01/08/2022 16:02

@BaddityHabbityHoppingPot But veganism is a choice. It is a valid choice but it is still a choice. People choose it for animal cruelty reasons or health reasons but it’s still a choice.

OP’s allergy has nothing to do with her moral compass and your comments about her actively wishing animals harm are unnecessarily inflammatory.

KeyboardWarriorsUnite · 01/08/2022 16:04

I would point out that OP is actively wanting cruelty to happen so they can get their way

I'm pretty sure op would be quite happy with a vegan dark chocolate, so long as it was also free from nuts.

BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 16:23

Insane. Fad. Craziness. All ops words. Inflammatory I'd say. Looking to incite a pile on.
Yes. Partaking in animal cruelty is a choice that works both ways. That's kind of the point. OP framiñg animal cruelty as the default implies it's not a choice. It was OPs choice to bring vegans into it. It's actually got bugger all to do with vegans. Nuts will still be used in lots of things regardless of whether vegans exist or not.
And milk is used in things regardless of dairy allergies.
Thàts the reality of an allergy.

PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 16:30

successstories · 01/08/2022 13:09

Why mention it being vegan?

Because they changed the recipe when they made it vegan.

Did they? Quite often now they will add ‘vegan’ to the updated packaging of a product that has always been vegan because this is something people now look for.

PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 16:32

successstories · 01/08/2022 13:13

You're not more important than them, and they're not more important than you.

Both dairy and nut allergies are important. If I remember correctly, this particular chocolate didn't have milk in it (I'm not 100% sure).

Why can't they leave food alone? Why did they have to add the hazelnut in when marketing it as vegan? All this craziness is exhausting

If it didn’t have milk in it then it was already vegan. They didn’t change the recipe to make it vegan.

successstories · 01/08/2022 16:43

Partaking in animal cruelty is a choice that works both ways

I don't condone unnecessary animal cruelty and there are plenty of ethical farmers in the UK and elsewhere.

But we need to draw a line at some point. Would you sacrifice your family's lives for the sake of an animal?

OP posts:
BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 16:49

I don't need to sacrifice my families lives to save an animal.
Its never ever going to come up.
I don't tend to judge others for their choices unless they start pointing fingers at others.

I draw the line at killing an animal that doesn't need to die. You don't need meat or dairy to live. If you like it and are happy with that choice, fine, but it is not some noble survival thing. It's putting taste preference before life. Fine to make that choice, but don't kid yourself. That's the choice you are making.

successstories · 01/08/2022 16:54

You don't need meat or dairy to live

Yes, I do. Why do you feel entitled to speculate about somebody else's health and nutrient requirements?

OP posts:
PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 17:05

successstories · 01/08/2022 16:43

Partaking in animal cruelty is a choice that works both ways

I don't condone unnecessary animal cruelty and there are plenty of ethical farmers in the UK and elsewhere.

But we need to draw a line at some point. Would you sacrifice your family's lives for the sake of an animal?

What? Oh is this like the stupid questions you get asked when someone finds out you are vegetarian or vegan? After, ‘why do you eat sausage shaped things if you don’t like meat?’ its usually ‘what would you do if you were on a desert island and the only thing to eat was rabbits?’

(for the record I’d eat the rabbits but right now it’s not eat meat or starve, I have options).

No one is talking about sacrificing their family for an animal, quit with all the bullshit hyperbole

PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 17:06

OP, you said yourself that the recipe was already dairy free, therefore it was vegan as it was unlikely to contain any other animal products.
They have changed the recipe and labelled it as vegan in the process.

Plumtreebob · 01/08/2022 17:35

Well given that by law in the UK medication has to be tested on animals before being given to people, it’s not completely out of left field to say there is an ethical quandary for vegans when it comes to healthcare. If we are getting all extreme about it.

MariosMagicMushrooms · 01/08/2022 17:54

Aldi organic dark chocolate has always been vegan.

MariosMagicMushrooms · 01/08/2022 17:56

PriamFarrl · 01/08/2022 16:30

Did they? Quite often now they will add ‘vegan’ to the updated packaging of a product that has always been vegan because this is something people now look for.

Exactly.

Co-op jam and custard doughnuts are both good examples of this. Both always been vegan but it is only recently that they they have been labelled as vegan.

BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 18:47

Ah yes, bacon defiency disease. Caused by being trapped on a desert island with nothing but a pig to eat, which will eat you if you don't eat it for too long.
You have my sympathies op.

BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 18:51

Yes, medicine and chocolate are slightly different ends of the scale aren't they.
But for your information, the vegan society says you should take medicine you need.
And medicine in no way changes my stance, which is I don't see the need to kill or harm an animal for taste preference.
But we'll done, at least medicine is an actual good example of how vegans living in a non vegan have to compromise.
A bit like how people who don't eat nuts have to compromise by buying Bournville instead.

entropynow · 01/08/2022 18:57

Marvellousmadness · 01/08/2022 11:23

Boohoo.

Well aren't you nice
So many vegans seem to be absolute shits towards other human beings. Ethics don't begin and end on a plate

BaddityHabbityHoppingPot · 01/08/2022 19:02

entropynow · 01/08/2022 18:57

Well aren't you nice
So many vegans seem to be absolute shits towards other human beings. Ethics don't begin and end on a plate

Vegans are just people. Assholes I'm all groups.
Of course, people being goady, dismissive and sneering of us brings out the asshole in us all.

Carpy88999 · 01/08/2022 19:17

successstories · 01/08/2022 16:43

Partaking in animal cruelty is a choice that works both ways

I don't condone unnecessary animal cruelty and there are plenty of ethical farmers in the UK and elsewhere.

But we need to draw a line at some point. Would you sacrifice your family's lives for the sake of an animal?

What a truly childish and uneducated response. I don't have to think animals have the same moral value as a human just to think they deserve better than to be reduced to a sandwich.

Carpy88999 · 01/08/2022 19:21

successstories · 01/08/2022 16:54

You don't need meat or dairy to live

Yes, I do. Why do you feel entitled to speculate about somebody else's health and nutrient requirements?

You don't though. You choose to consume the flesh and secretions of animals because you want too. That's OK but let's be honest about the reasons why.

successstories · 01/08/2022 19:24

That's OK but let's be honest about the reasons why

So you think you can ascertain everyone's health status and nutritional requirements? And you go about calling others childish and uneducated? Go figure...

OP posts:
Carpy88999 · 01/08/2022 19:30

successstories · 01/08/2022 19:24

That's OK but let's be honest about the reasons why

So you think you can ascertain everyone's health status and nutritional requirements? And you go about calling others childish and uneducated? Go figure...

Ahh yeah silly me, I forgot about that health condition which means you need to eat meat or drink the juice from a cow.