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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be unhappy with this?

13 replies

UntilTheEndOfTime · 01/08/2022 08:24

My in-laws are difficult, to say the least. They were bizarre and controlling throughout my pregnancy, and MIL frequently cried and called us shouting that we were spoiling her enjoyment of her baby by not doing things the way that she would, not finding out the gender, we mortally offended her by not throwing her a baby shower…

They were no better when I went into labour. It turns out they’d been showing up at the hospital every couple of days prior to me giving birth “incase I was in labour”. My labour went wrong, I ended up with a category 1 C-Section and was prepped for airlift, and through the whole thing, they were constantly calling the hospital and my husband, getting family members to do the same, and turned up at the hospital refusing to leave. My husband was asked to go and get them to go home before the police were called, which meant I was on my own for 25 minutes when they struggled to find a steady heartbeat for our baby.

Despite a strong feeling that I didn’t want to, we took baby to meet them as soon as we were released from hospital… they spent the whole time complaining that they’d been left out of the labour. When baby cried for food, MIL refused to give him back until DH basically snatched him off her.

They then kept just showing up at our house randomly. MIL kept calling and saying they were “missing out” on everything. They complained about the baby’s gender, the ‘selfishness’ of me breastfeeding, that seeing us weekly wasn’t enough.... they hated his name and asked us often for the first few weeks if we'd consider changing it.

They then sent me a gift signed from “Mum and Dad”, not an expression they use. My parents died when I was a child. I found it really creepy and sinister…we’d just moved house. To be honest, my mental health collapsed. DH talked to them and MIL cried a lot about not being the “matriarch” anymore, but they said they understood, and we’ve seen them monthly since then. Against every feeling in my body, I have encouraged them to interact with our baby, he goes for long cuddles, etc. They generally find him quite boring, I think. They refuse to “deal with crying” or change nappies, not that we’ve ever asked, and they feel strongly that we should raise him the way they raised DH, which included some weird local babysitting token scheme…

Anyway, they don’t have unsupervised access to him. It is all I can give to spend a day a month with them. They impact on my mental health incredibly, and I have to be functioning for our family to work. I dread seeing them before we do it, it takes me hours to recover afterwards. They feel the very opposite of safe, to me.

DH is looking after baby at the moment while I work. Typically this is the case, but I’m usually in the house too, and right now I’m working on my first out-of-house project since baby came along. It’s only for a few weeks, and it’s intense.

MIL has asked that while I am away, they can have baby unsupervised to “get to know him”. They have suggested that I’m not told.

DH hasn’t mentioned it to me yet, but there’s a high chance that this is because he knows it’d upset me, and I’ve got to focus on work. He also tends to deal with anything he considers unreasonable by just ignoring the request, I think it’s weird but it’s how they’ve always worked, and as far as I can tell, that’s what he’s done.

AIBU to be majorly uncomfortable with this? I’m hoping that as baby gets older, and I heal more, it’ll be easier. DH has no interest in taking baby by himself at the moment; but that’s an option when he’s older, too.

I really thought I’d picked something that was “fair” to everyone, except me. My ideal would be them entirely backing off for a decent amount of time, if I’m honest. There’s SO much that they’ve done that’s been insane. There’s threads about them on here before with pages and pages of people telling us to go NC… This really isn’t random in-law bashing.

I don’t know if it’s relevant, but I also have PTSD (from the birth) and bipolar disorder. Both are generally well managed, but I have to monitor my mental wellbeing.

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WombaMaPonga · 01/08/2022 08:32

I'd be moving and changing my phone number
Seriously their behaviour is not normal. You and your husband need to tell them to back off unless they want to alienated themselves
Congratulations on your baby though

Fairislefandango · 01/08/2022 08:40

Good lord - you are being unbelievably accommodating of them, given your state of mind and their frankly insane and appalling behaviour. You would have every justification to go non-contact.

It's not clear from your post quite how your dh feels about his parents and their behaviour. Does he acknowledge that their behaviour is utterly unacceptable and has had a hugely detrimental effect on your mental health at such a vulnerable time for you? If so, why is he still entertaining them? If not, why not? Obviously you have a PIL problem. But potentially a dh problem too. He needs to unconditionally have your back.

Ishacoco · 01/08/2022 08:49

Sounds awful, poor you.

I think I'd be backing off entirely for a while and not seeing them to reinforce the fact that this is YOUR baby and YOU get to make the decisions about where/when/to whom he goes.

You need to draw a line in the sand here and hold firm for the sake of your sanity for the next 18 years! They need a strong, clear message that this behaviour is not OK. The bit about suggesting you weren't told is appalling!

My ex-IL once did something along similar lines. FIL had a minor stroke but didn't notify the DVLA and continued driving - obviously hugely risky. We said that we weren't happy for him to be driving DD around (5/6 at the time). She was going to stay with them for a few days and we drove halfway to meet them, got her in the car, MIL got into the driving seat and we waved them off. Found out from DD a few days later that they'd driven round the corner and swapped seats and FIL drove home. We were furious and it was the end of them having any unsupervised time with her because we just couldn't trust them (there had been previous similar incidences, this wasn't a one off).

It was one of the best decisions we ever made, these people are properly batshit.

5foot5 · 01/08/2022 08:58

MIL has asked that while I am away, they can have baby unsupervised to “get to know him”. They have suggested that I’m not told.

DH hasn’t mentioned it to me yet,

I am confused. How do you know about it if DH hasn't mentioned it yet

UntilTheEndOfTime · 01/08/2022 09:06

Does he acknowledge that their behaviour is utterly unacceptable and has had a hugely detrimental effect on your mental health at such a vulnerable time for you? If so, why is he still entertaining them? If not, why not?

Yes, he's been great at that. I don't doubt that he has my back, and I'd be stunned (and heartbroken) if he'd ever consider doing anything behind my back. He has been upfront with them and he protected me for a couple of weeks when I just couldn't cope with seeing them. He even turned them away from the door twice. But he's hoping it heals; and we can find a middle ground everyone is comfortable with, and I think he's keen for that to happen.

I am confused. How do you know about it if DH hasn't mentioned it yet

MIL's use of technology is not the best and she insists on having my number saved under DH's name on her phone, so often manages to call/message the wrong number.

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UntilTheEndOfTime · 01/08/2022 09:07

Thank you all. Honestly, the validation that I'm not being the DIL from hell has lifted SUCH a weight this morning.

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Scabbersweasley · 01/08/2022 09:07

The performance at the hospital would have been enough for me to go NC. They sound absolutely bonkers. Surely the threat of the police was enough to make them see they were being crazy?

You've said several times in your post that it goes against your instincts to let them have your baby unsupervised. Listen to your instincts! They are there for a reason.

The only way to deal with these sort of people is to be assertive. They don't care about overstepping boundaries or making you feel uncomfortable so you have to give that sort of attitude back. They will need you way before you need them. Obviously it's hard when it's your dh parents but it sounds like he agrees they are being weird too.

Please put your foot down here.

soounfair · 01/08/2022 09:23

Gosh op as I'm reading through it gets worse and worse

I'd have a chat with DH go to their house, sit them down and set some boundaries & consequences if the boundaries are not respected.

For example "you need to give me notice before you come for a visit. If not I will not be answering the door"

"You can hold the baby if not in distress. If baby cries or needs me you will pass him over.. if not you will not get cuddles again"

List all of your expectations

Fairislefandango · 01/08/2022 09:38

Honestly, the validation that I'm not being the DIL from hell has lifted SUCH a weight this morning.

It's perhaps a measure of how traumatised you've been that you could even for a moment think that you are the one being unreasonable. Their behaviour is extreme, much worse than similar (but still valid) complaints about PIL I've read on here.

I see that you're happy that your dh has your back, but I still find it hard to believe he wants there to be compromise between you and PIL when they have behaved so monstrously, caused you such distress and shown no sign of stopping in spite of him talking to them about it. They clearly think they're in the right and you're being unreasonable. They aren't going to change their mind about that, however blatantly bonkers it is, are they?

FictionalCharacter · 01/08/2022 09:52

You know YANBU. Your husband’s wish to somehow halfway appease them is a concern. Did he not wake up when the hospital said they would call the police on them?!
Obviously they must not have your baby unsupervised (behind your back at that) and they are very wrong to even think of that. The issue is whether your DH would ever give in to them.
Have you told him you know about this “request”? I think you should tell him that you saw the message and it absolutely must not happen.

Cantbeliveyoufakeit · 01/08/2022 09:59

So does DH actually know about their latest bonkers request if the message came to you?

Onlyforcake · 01/08/2022 10:00

I'd assume that actually the MIL is using technology just fine and things like that were all just to manipulate/ get her way/ try to put conflict between you and DH

Onlyforcake · 01/08/2022 10:01

I should add I think that because I'm cynical, it's how my own mother uses messages.

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