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So now it's a drought on the way as well - AIBU to think water meters should be compulsory

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cakeorwine · 31/07/2022 11:32

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/31/drought-water-queues-uk-hosepipe-ban-compulsory-metering

Low levels of water supply.
Reservoirs drying up
Farmers having issues with watering crops.

The average household with a water meter uses 33 litres a day. Those without use 141 litres a day (on average)

The UK has the highest water consumption in Europe

OTOH - water companies lose 3 billion litres a day in leaks

We have a water meter - and it does make you think that if you are paying for the volume you use, you use less.

And it does seem unfair that people can use more of the same product from the same company but not get charged for the amount they use.

OTOH - there are households who would suffer if they had reasons why they used a lot of water and that could affect their health.

But then again, there are people who don't care about their water usage as they aren't paying per litre.

We are facing a drought - and climate change will affect water supply going forward. So maybe it is time for a look at compulsory metering WITH a look at cost per 1000 litres and a sensible look at circumstances of households.

OP posts:
Wishyfishy · 02/08/2022 13:26

Dotjones · 02/08/2022 11:15

A good idea would be to charge a higher rate for water the higher the council tax band is. People in the most expensive properties should pay more per litre of mains water than a high end mineral water would be. This would decrease usage for unnecessary things like swimming pools, fountains, hot tubs and steam rooms.

Alternatively we could ramp the rate up the more water gets consumed. Eg the current rate per person for 130ltr per day, with a 20% uplift for every litre used above that limit. This would be a good idea for gas and electricity too, it would really punish those who use more than their fair share.

I’d agree with increasing rates per usage for energy absolutely but not for water.

If you were charged a higher flat rate just because you have a higher council band would you not just have more over use? We live in London and have a higher band just because prices are, and always were, high. A terraced house can easily be an F or a G. What’s to say they use any extra water to someone in a cheaper terraced house up north? It’d hardly be fair.
If I were charged more as a flat fee I’d be watering the garden a lot more than I am. I’d want something on return for what I’d perceive as something unfair.

Having increasing rates would work (and be fair) only if everyone could be given a metre and as this thread shows, we’re so far from that.

CharlieAndTooManyCharacters · 02/08/2022 14:07

emmathedilemma · 02/08/2022 11:31

I'd happily have one (it saved me a fortune compared to standard charges when I lived down south) but up here it's not currently a priority and you have to pay to have them installed. You can moan about leakage but people also moan if their bills go up too much to invest in solving the leaks so you can't really have it both ways, and yes I know the water companies make outrageous profits but it's a private business and that's how businesses work!

The regulation should be sufficient that it does not happen this way. Especially given that the water companies operate local monopolies. There’s no competition in the water market at all. By design. So they need to be very heavily regulated and compelled to invest sufficiently in maintaining the infrastructure.

We should be angry about this. Not just holding our hands up and saying ‘well what else can you expect’.

A great deal of environmental aims would be much better addressed by government getting to grips with corporations. But it’s easier for them to focus on individuals and pretend that Jim at number 47 having a strip wash instead of a shower is what’s required.

Fifthtimelucky · 02/08/2022 14:59

I think water meters should be compulsory.

We have had one ever since moving to our current house over 20 years ago. One of my neighbours (family of 5) resisted having one for years, assuming it would cost them more.

A meter was imposed a couple of years ago and their water bill halved!

woodhill · 02/08/2022 15:07

Trouble is I don't trust the water companies to inflate the cost of water once everyone is on a meter

HopeIsNotAStrategy · 02/08/2022 15:56

MrsMoastyToasty · 31/07/2022 13:10

Any property built or subdivided (provided it was done according to building regulations and planning permission and not done by a dodgy builder.) since 1989 has to be metered , as this was the last year that rates were set (thanks to the poll tax). Owners of older properties have the option to go on a meter provided it's technically possible. You can't meter properties with shared supplies, which is quite common in some victorian terraces. You can't revert back to RV either.
The household is responsible for pipework from the external stop tap at the boundary up to and into the house. This is also a common place for leakage, so it isn't just the public main that is at fault.

I was told for years we couldn't have a meter in our old house, which is on a shared supply, but we've just recently had one fitted. They fitted it just outside where the water pipe went into the property, dug up the path and then reinstated it. I think it will save me a lot, so it's come at a good time with the energy increases.

Apparently if you can't have a meter fitted you can have an assessed bill, which may help some people.

strawberriesarenot · 19/08/2022 12:02

We have just had one fitted. Even at the highest estimate of use, we will save enough each year to pay two months of winter fuel bills (at present rate). But we have always collected rain water too, which does for our garden.

PineappleWilson · 19/08/2022 12:04

Not all houses can have them fitted. We share water pipes with next door, and the pipes are several feet below ground (we have a long metal rod to turn off the stopcock) so we can't have one installed. We've asked, twice.

It'll be electric which causes people to cut down on water use though - how much the washer, shower, bath costs to run and heat.

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