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To expect DD to work now

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youwillbethetruth · 28/07/2022 21:17

DD who lives myself and DH has done a PGCE this past year but has to repeat a placement from September. AIBU to want DD get a summer job until September?

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UWhatNow · 28/07/2022 21:20

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RubyWho · 28/07/2022 21:21

Why?

MichelleScarn · 28/07/2022 21:21

Of course not! Does she expect to do nothing?!

ManateeFair · 28/07/2022 21:22

She’s an adult. You can’t make her get a job. If you don’t want her to live with you, or you want her to pay you rent, tell her that and she can decide for herself how she’ll manage. But it sounds like you’re still treating her like she’s 16 rather than a grown woman in her 20s.

picklespark · 28/07/2022 21:22

I suppose it depends on your financial situation and if you need her to contribute over the summer.

I am an ex-teacher and personally was so exhausted after doing my PGCE I needed a little time off. My first teaching job started mid July anyway, but maybe your DD needs some time to rest, especially if she is repeating a placement which sounds like a difficult situation. It's a very intense course.

I'm aware that I am saying this not knowing all the facts.

Camalia · 28/07/2022 21:23

How old is she

youwillbethetruth · 28/07/2022 21:24

DD is very upset she will not be starting a September job as a teacher like some of her friends, so I think she finds getting a minimum wage summer job upsetting and embarrassing for her but I am just speculating.

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rnsaslkih · 28/07/2022 21:25

I would certainly not expect someone to work the summer after a PGCE unless finances necessitated it. It’s a full on qualification.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 28/07/2022 21:25

Just out of interest, what job do you expect her to get for 5 weeks only?

ManateeFair · 28/07/2022 21:26

MichelleScarn · 28/07/2022 21:21

Of course not! Does she expect to do nothing?!

@MichelleScarn We’re now at the end of July and she starts her next placement when the new school year starts in September. She’s going to be ‘doing nothing’ for what, five weeks? Hardly a big deal for a student to have a few weeks off or catch up on studying.

To be honest, not many places are likely to want to employ someone for such a short time anyway.

csection12 · 28/07/2022 21:26

youwillbethetruth · 28/07/2022 21:24

DD is very upset she will not be starting a September job as a teacher like some of her friends, so I think she finds getting a minimum wage summer job upsetting and embarrassing for her but I am just speculating.

She’s worked all year and this is her summer holiday I’m afraid. She’ll be going back in September and then hopefully straight into work when the placement is done

this is all no different than if she had a job to go to. Would you expect her to work her summer then?

heavyistheheed · 28/07/2022 21:26

Maybe she should spend this time going over her previous year and looking at the standards she failed to hit so next year will be a success

turquoise1988 · 28/07/2022 21:28

Well presumably she has to repeat the placement because she didn't meet the expected standard at the beginning of her PGCE last year.

She needs to accept that she needs to retake and get a 'minimum wage job' to tide her over in the meantime.

In my experience, trainees are not failed lightly but you absolutely have to be on it in every way. Teaching is full on. You have to show capability to be able to meet its physical and mental demands.

I'd query if she is capable or mature enough if she's throwing a paddy about having to get a summer job.

Suprima · 28/07/2022 21:28

youwillbethetruth · 28/07/2022 21:24

DD is very upset she will not be starting a September job as a teacher like some of her friends, so I think she finds getting a minimum wage summer job upsetting and embarrassing for her but I am just speculating.

It’s embarrassing that you want your child to forgo the school summer holidays when she has been working schools all year, and then will be going back to work in a school in 4.5 weeks.

Dotcheck · 28/07/2022 21:28

How would it work practically? It’s almost August already- by the time she applies, interviews, goes through reference checks etc, she’ll be back on course.

Also if she failed her placement, wouldn’t now be a good time for her to really prepare for next year?

Is she getting a student loan? If so, shouldn’t some of that be used to contribute?

PeekabooAtTheZoo · 28/07/2022 21:30

If she failed due to stress or lack of bandwidth to hit the standards, don’t you think she should prioritise setting herself up for her future career rather than making immediate cash given that its currently in jeopardy? This is very short sighted of you.

ManateeFair · 28/07/2022 21:30

youwillbethetruth · 28/07/2022 21:24

DD is very upset she will not be starting a September job as a teacher like some of her friends, so I think she finds getting a minimum wage summer job upsetting and embarrassing for her but I am just speculating.

Maybe it would help if you just left her alone instead of parenting her as if she was a child?! She’s failed a placement and she’s upset. She’s probably burnt out and could do with some time to relax so she’s fresh and re-energised for September. Take a step back.

turquoise1988 · 28/07/2022 21:31

"It’s embarrassing that you want your child to forgo the school summer holidays when she has been working schools all year, and then will be going back to work in a school in 4.5 weeks."

@Suprima but I think it's worth checking how she's finding the summer holidays, though? Is she paying her way? Or expecting her parents to?

turquoise1988 · 28/07/2022 21:32

funding* not finding!

Hercisback · 28/07/2022 21:33

I'd get her to have a good proper mental rest for at least 2 weeks. Then spend the rest of the time preparing for her placement.
Is she going to a new school or one she has an existing relationship with?

LivMumsnet · 28/07/2022 21:33

The OP is a previously banned poster. We're going to take this thread down now.

AWobABobBob · 28/07/2022 21:35

@Suprima she's not a child - she's an adult. Lots of "students" go back home during the summer holidays and do a temporary part-time job to earn money (shop/pub/restaurant).

Not everyone gets the luxury bank of mum and dad, I certainly didn't and had to work hard during my studies and then earning money outside of studies.

FloozingThePlot · 28/07/2022 22:22

I am confused OP. I thought she's passed her PGCE and got a job that was only 3 days a week?

user1487194234 · 28/07/2022 22:25

I would cut her some slack and prioritise her getting through next ty

StClare101 · 28/07/2022 22:36

How is she funding her study? Are you expected to pay for everything?