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Paedophile condemning Paedophiles.. WWYD?

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Hypocriticalbxstard · 26/07/2022 00:16

NC.

When I was 12 I was taken advantage of by an older bloke i was introduced to by an ex friend. I don't know his exact age at the time other than that he was in his early 20's so very much an adult, he had a car and his own place. An adult.

Fast forward to tonight somebody on my friends list shared a video from one of them paedophile hunting groups, they'd caught somebody from our town so the clip was doing the rounds.

I go to the comments and the first thing I see is this bloke, writing about how the bloke that got caught is this that and the other. The hypocritical wanker.

He's now a dad. He has kids of his own and a pregnant fiance. He plays step dad to her daughters, all information I obtained from a quick scan of his profile.

What would you do, if anything.

Would you tell his partner what he did?

I didn't report it to the police as sadly he was just one of many who exploited my vulnerabilities back then, I'm just so angry to see him playing the doting family man.

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Devotedcatslave · 26/07/2022 03:20

You could still go to the police if you feel strong enough. It is worrying he has access to children now.

SeasonFinale · 26/07/2022 03:51

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Wow did you really ask that?

Namerchangerextraordinaire · 26/07/2022 03:58

Men who want to abuse children will get into any group that might give them half a chance to abuse children.

That includes pedo hunter groups, so if they get caught they can say they were 'trying to lure out a pedo'.

I doubt he has changed.

If you feel up to it, I would report it to the police.
It may not be the first report they have had about him.
Or it might be but in a year or so they get another report & yours helps to give credence to that one.

I am so sorry this happened to you.

He did this to you & it was absolutely not your fault.
You did nothing to deserve or encourage it.

YouCantSpellAmericaWithoutErica · 26/07/2022 05:47

I’m not surprised you’re having to sit on your hands. Don’t reply to what he’s said though, for any other reason than to protect yourself from the inevitable victim blaming. You don’t deserve that. That’s not to say you shouldn’t report him now for what he did back then. He’s scum who’s hiding in plain sight after all. I’m not the least bit shocked by his hypocrisy and I doubt he’s changed that much.

As for @fUNNYfACE36, I'm hoping they’re a straight up troll with that comment. But of course, they could just as easily be a straight up fuckwit who genuinely thinks that way sadly. Either way, they’re not worth anyone’s time or headspace.

SylvanianFrenemies · 26/07/2022 07:19

Sorry this happened to you.
A Facebook accusation isnt going to have much of an effect and will lead to grief for you.
Would you feel up to reporting to the police? You dont have to pursue it. But it would mean that they have a record that corroborate any other reports, and they could check on the children exposed to him now.
If not that, maybe nspcc helpline or duty children and families social work at the council area he lives in.
All the best to you 💐

HollowTalk · 26/07/2022 07:31

I'm so sorry that happened to you. The temptation to speak out now must be overwhelming but would you feel able to speak to the police about this?

SurfBox · 26/07/2022 07:36

Sorry that this happened to you. Men are pigs

so are all men to blame for this 1 man? I suppose women are bitches too because of all the stories we hear on mn.

OP I'd go to cops.

SurfBox · 26/07/2022 07:54

A Facebook accusation isnt going to have much of an effect and will lead to grief for you

it would have a huge effect in that it would tarnish his name and people would be wary of him. Not saying it's the right thing to do but it would destroy him which would be a good thing.

Nc830 · 26/07/2022 07:56

Wow this exact thing happened to me the other day!! I confronted him on messenger and he denied knowing I exist, hadn’t heard from me and apparently he moved away when he was 18 (I still have all the old messages on my fb account from when I was 14 he was 22 proving everything) then immediately blocked me

Thefruitbatdancer · 26/07/2022 08:05

Report it to the police and mention he's a paedo as well as a paedo hunter.

R0llonspring · 26/07/2022 08:45

I wouldn't reply or put anything on social media.

I agree it would be good to report this to the police if you feel you can. They could look up whether he has any other similar history and hopefully talk to his fiancé privately. It might help the children currently around him.

He has put himself in a position to be able to abuse in plain sight and he might be looking at the vigilante site to make sure he's not 'outed' on it.

Aged about 10 a small group of us girls were regularly touched inappropriately by a much older male who was responsible for us at a school activity. In our mid 20's my friend decided to talk to the police. 4 of us gave statements. The police asked us to press charges so we did. He was about 70 now and at this point I felt slightly sorry for him. I had downplayed what had happened as not being that serious.

He changed his plea to guilty the morning of the court case.

After he pleaded guilty, his young step granddaughter spoke up and said he was doing the same to her now and her family supported her. I'm so glad my friend said what he did to us was wrong, and encouraged us all to speak up.

Do you have anyone else you can talk this through with?

CbaThinkingOfAUsername · 26/07/2022 09:02

Would you consider the police, OP?

Hypocriticalbxstard · 26/07/2022 09:04

I missed the deleted comments but from the replies I'm guessing it said something about me looking older than I was or the bloke thinking I was older. False. He knew exactly how old I was and nobody tried to tell him otherwise least of all me. I remember it as clear as day including the fact I told him my age.

For a start I didn't lie about my age, I didn't have any need to. I didn't go around pursuing older blokes. He sought ME out.

Thank you for the kinder comments I'll catch up with them now, I just needed to get that out of the way.

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ILikeHotWaterBottles · 26/07/2022 09:22

I'd probably actually mention it to the paedophile hunter group anonymously. Let them target him. If he is still of the same mindset, and let's face it probably is, he'll fall for it and get caught. Then there is evidence.

Hypocriticalbxstard · 26/07/2022 09:26

I've just caught up with the replies. My heart goes out to each one of you who have been through similar - sending unmumsnetty hugs to you. These fuckers are sick.

I was an easy target because I was being neglected at home and had a mother who didn't give a toss about me, basically. I had a slightly older friend (15 at the time) and she would get to know these blokes somehow, either online or through other friends, and she would take me about with her. This one sought me out on 'bebo' after the friend introduced us.

I held alot of resentment towards her for many years but I came to realise that she was vulnerable and taken advantage of herself.

I never lied about my age, there was no need to, my age was clearly what appealed to them. I actually went to a school 5 minutes from this blokes flat and he'd encourage me to sneak off and go to his place. He would tell me that what we had was 'special' and I couldn't tell anybody. I felt so 'cool' at the time, having the attention of an older guy, it wasn't until I reached about 18 that I started to see it for what it was.

At 12 I very much looked 12 aswell. I didn't wear make up or dress up. I was a kid in tracksuit bottoms. I have photos of me at that age and there's no way I could be mistaken for anything other than what I was, but that's beside the point as my age was no secret.

I don't think I could bring myself to going to the police. I have children of my own and I think dragging it all up again and facing the prospect of not being believed would have a really detrimental impact on my mental health.

His poor fiance though 😔

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HikingforScenery · 26/07/2022 09:28

I’d just comment “that’s rich coming from you” and leave it.

I can’t bring myself to suggest getting the hunter groups to target him. A lot of the members of groups like that are pretty horrible, themselves.

Hypocriticalbxstard · 26/07/2022 09:36

The fact he's watching those paedophile hunter stings and involving himself in the comments makes me think he probably hasn't changed. Why else would he be seeking out that material? I've seen a couple of those 'sting' videos when they've done the rounds locally and they talk in graphic detail about what the men have said in the chats. He's obviously getting something out of it isn't he.

This is why I was so conflicted about saying something because on one hand if he's still a risk then his fiance needs to know. I'll consider saying something anonymously perhaps. You wouldn't forget something like that being said about your partner would you?

I agree with the above about some of those paedophile hunting groups, very dubious characters themselves some of the time.

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cooliebrown · 26/07/2022 09:45

you could report to your local authority Child Protection/Safeguarding Team, who will be very concerned about such a scrote having contact with young children

Staters · 26/07/2022 09:46

So sorry this happened to you.
As PP suggests, anonymously contact these paedophile hunters and maybe he’ll be their next target!

Twoshoesnewshoes · 26/07/2022 09:55

OP I’m so sorry that you experienced that.

could you contact your local Sexual Assault Referral Centre (SARC)? They should have a process for you to report anonymously, so he wouldn’t be questioned or arrested but the police would have the info as ‘intel’ if anyone else reports.
the SARC can then usually contact you if anyone else does come forward and you can choose to report then.

Hypocriticalbxstard · 26/07/2022 10:01

I wasn't aware of SARC, I could definitely look into that. I would like the information to be available to those who need it but couldn't face a court process so if there's a way of raising the red flag and not having to deal with the police etc I'm happy to do it.

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HikingforScenery · 26/07/2022 10:14

Also very sorry to hear that happened to you, OP.
Seeing him must have brought it all back.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 26/07/2022 10:58

My first asshole did try the "I swear I didn't know she was 10" line but got shut down sharpish. I see your situation has brought the assholes out OP but I'm glad to see they've already been deleted. FWIW I'm 💯with @alnawire

Suetwo · 26/07/2022 11:01

Personally, I would report/expose such men. I know it’s easier said than done, but it makes me SO angry that these people suffer no consequences. The vast majority of rapists and abusers are never prosecuted. I have known at least six women who were raped or abused when young. None of them went to the police, and all of them suffered lasting damage. One told me she’d never married or had kids because of what happened. Another had made suicide attempts. A third had developed drug problems.

Meanwhile, the **s who did it to them are living normal lives. The woman who never married or had kids told me that her abuser now lives in Australia and posts images of himself in a lovely house by the beach surrounded by loved ones. His victim, on the other hand, lives alone in a little flat.

Boogismyname · 22/03/2023 23:53

I absolutely don't blame you, OP, but be careful on facebook.

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