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To think couple's counseling doesn't work?

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vileta · 23/07/2022 20:35

I've never met anyone who had couples counseling and it worked... I usually hear people used it and then got divorced. AIBU to think it doesn't work? Can I have some positive stories please?

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vileta · 24/07/2022 20:11

@TimeForTeaAndG yes I keep seeing Relate! Glad it worked!

Anyone else had an experience with them?

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CharlieAndTooManyCharacters · 24/07/2022 21:57

vileta · 24/07/2022 20:11

@TimeForTeaAndG yes I keep seeing Relate! Glad it worked!

Anyone else had an experience with them?

I had a truly horrendous experience with relate. Basically the counsellor allowed herself to be H’s tool in his quest to ‘prove’ I’m awful and wrong. She ignored anything I told her in our individual session (like the fact he was financially abusing me!) and overtly enabled him to further abuse me through therapy. In the final session, she was genuinely unacceptable. It was on zoom. I asked for the session to stop. She would not stop it. I walked out of the room and she continued with him (in the living room on zoom). I told her explicitly that I wanted the session to end and if they wanted some private session to collude against me (which is exactly what they were doing) they could book one entirely separately. She insisted on continuing. It was awful.

Turns out, he had a very similar experience of relate with his first wife. The counsellor sided with him and she ended up walking out (although it wasn’t on zoom so she could literally leave the building). Then the counsellor reinforced H’s view that the wife was the villain and he’s a poor, tortured soul.

The first wife and I are very different people to put it mildly. It’s not a coincidence that H is the common denominator in engineering this unusual yet alarmingly similar outcome in counselling. I would not recommend relate (it was relate both times).

I have subsequently learned that a decent counsellor should have acted on my disclosure of ongoing abuse and not returned to sessions together. Especially as he’d openly subverted the initial session and had openly admitted to me that he was purposefully looking to make the the villain and get the counsellor on his side. And I’d told her that alongside information about how he was abusing me.

The topic that she brought up in the final session was a situation that I’d told her had made me actually suicidal. To the point I’d sought support and was on antidepressants. Yet she not only brought it up. She was lecturing me and telling me I HAD to do what I’d told her I could not do. That it was a boundary put in place by my suicide crisis counselling and was my way if surviving. She knew this. I’d told her it. And then she would not stop the session when I said I could not continue.

An extreme situation - I have come to realise that he’s an extremely good manipulator and probably has diagnosable NPD - but a decent counsellor should not allow this to happen. That’s why they do questionnaires and individual session. And they should recognise they have a duty of care towards you. On that basis, I would not recommend relate. Especially as the organisation let him do this to two different women.

CharlieAndTooManyCharacters · 24/07/2022 21:58

That’s also why I said that both parties have to be committed to making the counselling work.

if one party has a harmful agenda (or even just isn’t really trying), it will fail.

birthdaytou · 25/07/2022 10:39

You both sound like you have the right attitude to make it work. Have a look here www.counselling-directory.org.uk you can search for a therapist who will offer concessions for a lower rate of you are struggling financially. The counselling relationship it’s self is really important to have a look for a someone who feels like the right fit for both of you. The first session will be used to see if there’s a good fit between you, you don’t need to commit until after that. Embrace the process and you will learn so much about yourselves and each other and what you both need to make your relationship work. Wishing you all the best.

Cherms · 26/07/2022 22:31

I got a recommendation from a friend. The therapist talked to us together. Then again together. Then separately. Then she spoke to DH a few times on his own and in the end we both had insight into why it wasn't working and worked on making it work.

Gardenerboo · 26/07/2022 22:41

I'm looking for suggestions on how to reconnect with dh.

Things are bad, he moved out earlier in the year for 3 months and has since returned.

We both want the marriage to work but don’t know how to make a start.

Gardenerboo · 26/07/2022 22:42

Many of you have mentioned reconnecting as something that counselling enabled you to do. I’m interested as to how and what worked.

Haggisfish3 · 26/07/2022 22:45

We went to relate and it helped us. I leantedd that dh stops listening after the third piece of info when I get home. And that his upbringing was more tense than I thought. He realised my friends are important to me and that he needs to be less defensive.

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