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AIBU to think releasing a pet is cruel?

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SnailTrailtoFreedom · 23/07/2022 09:16

We have a pet snail. He came to us on a lettuce leaf when he was so small his shell was translucent and he could fit on the nail of my little finger. He is now nearing the end of his life span. We are going on holiday in a couple of weeks and I haven't yet found someone to have him - our usual pet-sitters are themselves going away at the same time.

One member of the family (YABU) thinks we should release him into the nearby forest, or garden so he has a taste of freedom before he dies by being eaten by something

The other (YANBU) thinks this is cruel. He has been kept inside since he was a baby, his food and water falls from the sky and he sleeps outside of his shell. He wouldn't last a minute in the great outdoors. We could ask the neighbours, even if we don't know the parents all that well, the daughter plays out with and is in a class with my DC; or smuggle him into the hotel with us (travelling by car, not leaving the country). Or ask the hotel. He's in a box, he doesn't need to be taken out of it. But I don't know if snails like travelling?

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Sunflowersinthewind · 23/07/2022 13:13

If you are anywhere near Wiltshire, I can look after him for you. We once had garden snails too.

mm40 · 23/07/2022 13:14

YesItIsI · 23/07/2022 09:42

Put him on the bonnet of a car at the start of a quarter mile drag race. An exciting quick death or super powers await!

You can only do this if he has goggles.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 13:21

mam0918 · 23/07/2022 13:08

Its been many years since I kept the snails but I think you might be right I think one maybe was zebra and one was horned.

We have never had shrimp but considered it, we met a lovely little shrimp in a 'petting pool' an aquarium once that we still occasionally think off because he was so cute (super friendly, would swim into people hands, he wasnt shy at all lol) but we sold our whole big set up (was a massive tank with lights, fliters etc... took up half the room dispite only having 4 inhabitants lol) after everything died and I have no clue on looking after shrimp.

I dont know what happened to our smaller pond snail tank, we rescued him from our fish trying to eat him and had no idea where he came from. we put him in a small tak where he breed and they had their own ecosystem and breed over several years (we just topped up water and they thrieved on their own) and then they seemed to slowly stop breeding as much after many years and dwindled until they died out (possibly due to inbreeding as they all decended from 1 snail, must have gone through dozens upon dozens of generations though). The tank sat empty for a while and I think DH threw it out.

I considered a Giant Millipead too but with 3 kids now I dont think I have the time for more pets.

I wonder if your horned one was a rabbit snail? They are as cute as anything.

The shrimp pretty much look after themselves if it's a tank with real plants - you feed them a couple of algae wafers every couple of days (they pick them up in their little shrimp "hands", like a biscuit) and will also thoroughly enjoy a slice of cucumber or courgette. They also clear up excess fish food.and eat their own discarded exoskeletons (they shed every few weeks). The plants and the filter deal with any shrimp poo.

If I had to choose between fish and invertebrates, I'd pick invertebrates every time.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 13:23

Julie89uk · 23/07/2022 13:12

why don't you just leave it in a tank with a tone of food and plenty of water

Don't forget to leave the TV on for company, and so he can keep up with his favourite soaps.

TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 13:45

Take snail on holiday with you! We have stick insects which are usually fine left with plenty foliage. But we raised baby leaf insects last year, two of whom died. We only had one left and didnt want her to die so we found a jar and took her on holiday with us! She tasted different bramble and enjoyed herself!
Here she is sightseeing!!

AIBU to think releasing a pet is cruel?
TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 13:47

forgot to say we have a caravan, but in the car, our kids strapped her holiday jar into the middle seat so she would be safe! Grin

Hobele · 23/07/2022 13:48

YesItIsI · 23/07/2022 09:42

Put him on the bonnet of a car at the start of a quarter mile drag race. An exciting quick death or super powers await!

GrinGrinGrin

BrokenCopper · 23/07/2022 13:50

UK holiday? We took ours with us.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 13:57

TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 13:45

Take snail on holiday with you! We have stick insects which are usually fine left with plenty foliage. But we raised baby leaf insects last year, two of whom died. We only had one left and didnt want her to die so we found a jar and took her on holiday with us! She tasted different bramble and enjoyed herself!
Here she is sightseeing!!

SHe's lovely - much prettier than the ones we had. (Though ours had fantastic personalities and a very dry sense of humour) 😁

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 13:57

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jacksmannequin · 23/07/2022 13:58

Mydpisgrumpierthanyours · 23/07/2022 09:48

Why not take him/her with you then take photos of them by landmarks etc rather than leaving him in your room?

Love this idea Grin

TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 14:04

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 13:57

SHe's lovely - much prettier than the ones we had. (Though ours had fantastic personalities and a very dry sense of humour) 😁

She was lovely! Lost her earlier this year sadly but we'll always have the caravan!
She was quite tame and preferred my son to anyone else!
@Mydpisgrumpierthanyours we did this! That pic is of Leafy taking in the Wallace Monument! Grin

ErrolTheDragon · 23/07/2022 14:18

You could keep its habitat nice and moist while you're away with capillary matting, a reservoir of water and a bit of ingenuity, I suppose.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 14:40

TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 14:04

She was lovely! Lost her earlier this year sadly but we'll always have the caravan!
She was quite tame and preferred my son to anyone else!
@Mydpisgrumpierthanyours we did this! That pic is of Leafy taking in the Wallace Monument! Grin

When I read the landmarks one (@Mydpisgrumpierthanyours)I thought that was a great idea!

I loved our stick insects, too - they got out once and I only noticed because I was watching telly and realised that something was stalking up the curtain with a very determined tread! They were brown, so didn't stand out as much as Leafy.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 23/07/2022 15:29

Legoninjago1 · 23/07/2022 12:39

Sorry nrft but I didn't realise they slept outside their shells! Can you send a picture of him naked plse? As long as nobody would be offended.

I’m 99.9% certain the OP just means that he doesn’t curl himself up inside his shell to sleep. He won’t take it off completely because he can’t.

WouldJudasLeaveIt · 23/07/2022 16:32

Oh God I need to know what is gonna happen to the snail now 🐌

LurpakAspirations · 23/07/2022 16:34

How can you tell if a snail is sleeping? Do they snore?

CallOnMe · 23/07/2022 16:44

Snails are a bugger if they're in the breakfast queue in front of you, though.

😂😂😂

marrymeadam · 23/07/2022 17:23

We have African land snails and they hibernate if they get cold so cool your snail down. Let it hibernate and wake it up with some delicious cucumber on your return. (I don't know how you would do this because if you put them in the freezer they obviously die, so maybe fridge?!

Runningslow · 23/07/2022 18:40

You’ll need to make sure you don’t leave it unattended in the car at any time in this heat

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 23/07/2022 23:14

TaighNamGastaOrt · 23/07/2022 13:45

Take snail on holiday with you! We have stick insects which are usually fine left with plenty foliage. But we raised baby leaf insects last year, two of whom died. We only had one left and didnt want her to die so we found a jar and took her on holiday with us! She tasted different bramble and enjoyed herself!
Here she is sightseeing!!

That’s brilliant, lucky Leafy!

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 23/07/2022 23:18

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/07/2022 11:42

Garden snails are true hermaphrodites - they have both male and female genitive organs. When they mate both get pregnant.

Wow! You learn something new every day. So I looked it up and found out they can also get themselves pregnant.

So OP, if you do leave Shelly/Speedy/NoName at home alone and you come back to 80 babies, please don’t assume that he/she has been having a shag-fest with a snail mate.

Gosh it’s email (snail mail?) pronouns footer must be a tough one.

RyvitaBrevis · 23/07/2022 23:48

There is a genuine scientific question as to whether snails have the capability to learn. They can learn to avoid painful stimuli, probably, but I really doubt a garden small can genuinely learn to rely on you or to be tame. Snails are not reared by their parents. The eggs are laid in a hole and the parents have no role in helping them to learn snail behaviour. So it would probably be fine in the wild if it was a native snail. If it came in on a lettuce, it could be from another part of the world, though, so the outdoor environment may not be right for it. At this time in the summer, snails will estivate (like hibernation in the summer) if it's too hot. Hope this helps. ❤️🐌

Pelsall116 · 24/07/2022 18:24

Releasing him to die outside would be very cruel. Please don't

sunglassesonthetable · 24/07/2022 18:35

Releasing him to die outside would be very cruel. Please

How do you know he will die? He's not a mammal who learns behaviour from his parents?