Bad neighbours

[MrP56]

The neighbours next door to me, have no consideration at all, they only care about themselves.
They have 4 kids who are out until 9pm in the garden, they scream shout, answer back and show utter disrepect, the parents can't control them.
They have in the garden, a hot tub, goal net, the kids bang footballs against my fence all the time, they do not care if i am sitting out, they park over my driveway and have parties and music blaring all the time, i tried to speak to them and i got back ' not another moaning !!!!!! go f* off, now i know it is a rented property, i was not told about this when i viewed it.
What path can i go down, love the house and the garden, i have a lovely sitting area which i cannot use.

In my experience neighbors like this don't change. They don't need to. You could fight fire with fire 9r you could move.

Get the landlord's details from Land Registry (£3, instant download) and write, setting out all of their antisocial behaviour.

Tell the landlord that you will be complaining to the council if the problem isn't sorted by X date.

Or if you would like to move and have nothing declarable on record, put your house on the market :(

Very little you can do in my experience. complaints to local authority/landlords even when upheld take months and months to see any action. Even when eviction notices are served problem tenants tend to dig their heels in until court action takes place and most landlords won’t want to pay out to force an eviction. My friend can’t live in her house at the moment because of horrific neighbours, they just so not care, wild parties at all hours mid-week and weekends. Loud sex through the walls, fights and drug dealing, subletting rooms, trespassing in her back garden. She’s a wreck and is 8 months into the process of complaints to the landlord, council and safer neighbourhood police. There is no end in sight. The landlord lives abroad, the letting agent doesn’t give two shits. She’s utterly broken.

I agree about getting hold of the LL. Some people are just wankers

On reflection, I would just move.

I would just move too. The complaints my friend has made though completely justified will make it very hard for her to sell in future.

Two options, first tackle them head on and show them that they are not in charge and make them afraid to mess with you (I appreciate for most people this is not a good route), its long and hard and will test you.

Second just do you best to ignore and move as soon as you can.

I'm afraid people like this will take every advantage and will see ignoring and backing down as a weakness, usually attempts to talk them will be seen as challenge and make them worse unless you can win.

Unless you stop them, and risk a war you can succeed in my advice is to move or just hope they do. A bit like war with Russia, unless you can make them afraid of you they will walk over you.

The complaints my friend has made though completely justified will make it very hard for her to sell in future

Horrifying.

For anyone planning their next move...

It's always a good idea to visit a prospective house at various times of day, notice what's in surrounding gardens, do unannounced drive-bys or walk-bys to listen out for noise, knock on nearby neighbours' doors to "get a sense of the area", look up the crime figures online.

Even with all of the above. Nuisance neighbours can move in and stuff things up any time.

There really ought to be harsher penalties.

Well, if it's rented.... what would you have done differently if you knew it was a rented property?

As a PP said you can

1. Complain to the landlord, but they either won’t care or there will be a backlash
2. Start to keep a record and complain to the council but, depending on the noise it could be classed as normal domestic noise. You will also need to declare this when you sell.
3. Move. Unless they move before you, the behaviour won’t deescalate even with external intervention. If the chap has been swearing and aggressive at a simple and polite request, a flea in the ear from the landlord probably won’t have much of an impact tbh, and could go on for months / years.

i know it is a rented property, i was not told about this when i viewed it.
Why would you be told though? Buyers can be just as inconsiderate, it seems like a sneery attitude towards renters OP.

Why do people assume landlords have so much power? Can you imagine a landlord complaining to this tenant? the only thing they can do is to evict them & that will be a serious cost & that kind of difficult tenant will be awkward & probably stop paying rent. Soon section 21 will stop & evicting someone who is antisocial sets such a high bar of proof that this behaviour won't qualify - with the best will in the world, your best bet is the council

I'd move - neighbours like that won't change and even going through proper channels you will find yourself in a battle for years.

You need to seriously threaten to sue the landlord for nuisance. The landlord will not want this and will evict them.

Check the criteria for nuisance but off to of my head it's persistent interruption of your enjoyment of your property and past a certain time. Not sure you would qualify but have a proper look then make the threat if they don't sort it.

Be careful, check everything, but a result will come from the landlord taking responsibility only.

Sue the landlord ?!?🙄good luck with that.

I haven't been here that long, and when i viewed the house was a weekend, and it was quiet, these neighbours only care about themselves, sons are out in the garden playing football until all hours, and then the dad will join them.
They don't talk to each other they scream shout and open up the windows so when they are inside you still here them or music blaring, they are always parking over or close to my boundary as well, and always have parties.

It doesn't sound like it would be grounds for an eviction. Noise between 11pm and 7am can be reported to the council as it's antisocial hours. Otherwise, they are just using their home and garden nothing you can do about it

If the tenant is paying the rent on time and the property is maintained tom to the landlord s satisfaction I would be amazed if an eviction was the result.

Move and tell landlord why you are moving.

I’ve joined this forum to see if people think we’re crazy! I live in a small village with a beautiful big sunny garden with my husband and dog. We live a quiet life except for when nephew visits (most weekends) and goes on the PlayStation. I’m usually the one telling him to keep it down. He knows he’s not allowed on it after 10pm and to keep his music / tv down too after this time.
The issue ?
Our neighbours. We live in a semi detached property - our bedroom, sons bedroom, living room and dining room join room next door. Our property layouts ‘mirror’ each other . Living next door is the ‘Dad’ who’s about 70 years old, his daughter who’s approximately 33 years of age and her daughter who is approximately 16 years of age . We moved here 8 years ago and didn’t realise for 18 months that a child lived next door. She barely went to school and lockdown made no difference to them. No one in our house has seen the daughter since Christmas 2021. Neighbours opposite haven’t seen her since June 2020. The Dad and Daughter say to anyone who dares ask that she has a plethora of medical issues - from asthma to immune deficiency disorder to allergies to childhood arthritis. I don’t believe this . The child has some learning difficulties but I believe this is nurture not nature . As a young child she regularly visited other neighbours to read and play , she chatted to others as they walked by and was extremely inquisitive. In 2019 I estimated she went to school one day a week on average . She would sing on the bus and say inappropriate things to other students ( this is gossip I don’t know 100%) . I hear her sing a few times a week and when I last saw her walking up and down garden I would estimate she is 20 stone and very pale.
The Dad and Daughter have not spoken to us in 5 years. They complain to the local council about us often. Noise, General Noise, Dog Noise, Log Burner causing distress, candles causing distress, BBQ causing distress and the latest I apparently take illegal drugs ! Had to have the embarrassing scenario of Police and anti social local council officer come out and visit us. We know 100% that all complaints have come from our neighbours yet police or council won’t help us. They say to mount an investigation that the neighbours complaints are vexatious , they’d have to do a lot more !!! They suggested mediation but these people lie consistently and say nothing to your face. We did a freedom of information request and found several complaints directed at husband personally. Each unsubstantiated and deemed malicious but no action taken against complainer.

I want to contact NSPCC and social services regarding the young girl but fear it will back fire and be deemed a response to their complaints. This isn’t normal is it?
We go into back garden they RUN indoors
We go out and old Man stands and watches
We go in front garden and their audio visual camera follows us.
The house is NEVER left un occupied. The old man drives each day same time (6am) to lord knows where. Daughter may leave or be seen once on average once a month and like I said hardly ever the granddaughter. Daughter never worked . Old Man stopped 30 years ago.

Their home is housing trust - they have refused ALL modernisation. Refused new Bathroom, Kitchen and Heating. They have coal fire that is on even in a heatwave . As neighbours go you hardly hear anything ( except a few minutes of singing) or fire being stoked . No normal sounds like doors closing or running up stairs . Nothing.

Are they just odd ? Or is something sinister going on. Do we move and just hope they’re better with others.

Really appreciate your thoughts . It’s really upsetting for us but I’m more worried about the girl.

Start your own p@Mai

Start your on thread @MairB , you may get more replies

Well we have a neighbour who’s made it hell since we moved in , (a year ago ) 8 weeks ago she got the local dealer drunk so he would smash up out side our house then he threatened us with a knife .
both council tenants and both allowed to continue living opposite us .

im so worn down with it and feel unsafe in my own home .
that moving seams the only option .
unless they can find a reason to say she harassed us then we’re stuck with her
if the local police man says she’s a nitemare !!!

So I’m not sure what my advice is , as we’ve tried everything