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When did your DC sleep later?

71 replies

OnSilverStars · 19/07/2022 07:19

My DS has never slept late. Always an early riser. He's 4.5 and he's always up by 6, usually before. I know that's not mega early but still, he's so tired all day.l and so am I.

My 2 year old used to get up about that time too, now she's a bit older she sleeps until about 7 or a bit later. It's great.

Did your DC eventually start sleeping later? How old were they. It's driving me mad

AIBU to expect DC1 to sleep until 7????

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Lazypuppy · 19/07/2022 07:22

At 4.5 he's old enough for you explain he needs to stay in his room till 7 even if he doesn't want to sleep.

We'e been using the gro clock with DD since she was 3.if she wakes up before sun is out she can play in her room , watch her kindle or whatever but she isn't to come and wake us up.

Svara · 19/07/2022 07:23

DS went to bed when I did so I woke up first and could have a shower, from under a year old. Went to bed earlier from school age but has rarely woken up first.

Lazypuppy · 19/07/2022 07:24

Also depends on bedtime, if you are putting him to bed early that may explain early waking. My DD goes to bed between 8-9 and normally wakes up around 7ish, with gro clock sun set to come out at 7:30 on weekdays and 8am on weekends

TeddyisMydog · 19/07/2022 07:24

My 8 year old wakes up at half 4 😭
If he stays in his room he will jump off his bed, throw toys, slam the door.. anything to wake everyone up
My 5 year old gets up between 4.30 and 4.45
My almost 4 old year old wakes up at half 3

I don't function properly anymore lol

Skinnydecafflatte · 19/07/2022 07:25

Mine is nearly 13, I’m still waiting…

MRex · 19/07/2022 07:26

Put him to bed earlier if he's tired. DS is a similar age and still wakes fairly early some days, but he will sleep through from an earlier bedtime if he's tired. He will play with toys or chat quietly to one of us if it's early (good time for worries and solution chats), you don't need to be getting up at 6.

Heistonabike · 19/07/2022 07:29

My 7 year old still rises with the birds. We also use the groclock and she knows to stay in her room until 7. She'll usually play lego, read a book, draw or annoy her brother 😁

Purplehonesty2 · 19/07/2022 07:30

Dd is 10 and usually sleeps til about 8.30 if it's not a school day. Sometimes later if she's had a late night.

Ds has always been an early riser and now at nearly 13 he's usually awake at 7.30 on weekends, sometimes 8. On a school day he gets up at 6.45 to get shower and off to the bus for 7.40 so he's used to the early mornings.

If he sleeps in I know he is poorly!

OnSilverStars · 19/07/2022 07:42

Some of you saying like 13 🫠😭

We have Gro clock but he largely ignores it or wakes up and goes and presses buttons until the sun comes on.

We start bedtime about 7/7:30. Bath, books, cuddle, leave him about 7:30/8. He then falls asleep anywhere from 7:30-9:30.

Last night with the heat was 9:30. Up at 5:30 this morning. That can't be a healthy amount of sleep for a 4yo

We've tried explaining to him that we all need sleep, that he'll be tired, that we'll only be able to do X, Y, Z if he gets lots of rest. We've probably done it all wrong but we're out of ideas

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Goodskin46 · 19/07/2022 07:47

DS is a lark (like his Mum), only started sleeping beyond 7 at secondary age. He is 18 mostly up by 8:30-9 even though has nothing to get up for (finished his A-levels).

Goodskin46 · 19/07/2022 07:48

At 4 he slept 8:30-6:30 if we were lucky.

Goodskin46 · 19/07/2022 07:49

Dd would sleep 6:45-7:30 at the sane age (has always loved her sleep).

Goodskin46 · 19/07/2022 07:50

If it's any consolation he is on track for 4A*s and has a place at Oxbridge in October.

Yerroblemom1923 · 19/07/2022 07:52

Mine is 13 and still an early riser, but then so am I! 6am I can cope with as she amuses herself, it's when they're little and up at 5am and you have to take turns to keep them quiet so your partner can sleep I struggled! Does he still nap?
Or try a star chart to encourage him to stay in his bedroom QUIETLY until 7am?

MaudieTipstaff · 19/07/2022 07:53

One of mine is 11 and still an early riser.
He's not allowed downstairs until 7 though, we've had that rule since he was about 2.

gogohmm · 19/07/2022 07:59

From babies, they would feed and go back to sleep until 9 or so. It all depends on routine and bedtimes. Mine never went to bed before 8

MolliciousIntent · 19/07/2022 08:05

DD is 2 and waits for her groclock to turn yellow at 7 on nursery days and 7.30 on other days.

Tbh it sounds like your problem is behavioural, not with wake times.

KarrotKake · 19/07/2022 08:08

DS1 is usually awake when my alarm goes off at 6.25. He just reads until he's allowed up at 7 tho. He is 13.

DS2 is usually awake before 7, but not as early as his brother.

Both these are massive improvements on their early days!

By posting at the time you have, you will get the early riser crowd.

I bet if you post in the middle of the afternoon you will get some more balanced answers that don't include all the early rising teens!

KarrotKake · 19/07/2022 08:09

DS1 is usually awake when my alarm goes off at 6.25. He just reads until he's allowed up at 7 tho. He is 13.

DS2 is usually awake before 7, but not as early as his brother.

Both these are massive improvements on their early days!

By posting at the time you have, you will get the early riser crowd.

I bet if you post in the middle of the afternoon you will get some more balanced answers that don't include all the early rising teens!

Ducksurprise · 19/07/2022 08:09

My adult child still wakes naturally about 6. Only one of mine likes to lay in as a teenager and even then that's only between 8 and 9am. The others are all up by 7.

Rule has always been since first school you can read quietly in your room but the door is not to be opened before 7. Teens still wake early but stay in room till 7 (as going downstairs wakes the animals)

sunflowersandtomatoes · 19/07/2022 08:12

Ref the Gro Clock, there is a button locking function that I didn’t know about till I learnt it on here. Then he won’t be able to make the sun come up. I don’t know if that will make any difference, but there it is!

TheMoth · 19/07/2022 08:14

I found it's not so much about stopping getting up early, but being old enough to sort themselves out. Ds must have been about 6 or 7 when he used to take himself downstairs at 6 am to watch telly etc. I used to do the same thing when I was little.

Lazypuppy · 19/07/2022 08:22

OnSilverStars · 19/07/2022 07:42

Some of you saying like 13 🫠😭

We have Gro clock but he largely ignores it or wakes up and goes and presses buttons until the sun comes on.

We start bedtime about 7/7:30. Bath, books, cuddle, leave him about 7:30/8. He then falls asleep anywhere from 7:30-9:30.

Last night with the heat was 9:30. Up at 5:30 this morning. That can't be a healthy amount of sleep for a 4yo

We've tried explaining to him that we all need sleep, that he'll be tired, that we'll only be able to do X, Y, Z if he gets lots of rest. We've probably done it all wrong but we're out of ideas

OP, how are you tackling the bad behaviour?

Pressing buttons to make sun come out, either lock it or you go back and put moon back on as you know it isn't time for the sun, and you explain that to him.

'Explaining to him' clearly isn't working so what consequences are there whn he wakes you early?

Imo you sound too soft, if you have set clear boundaries, ie you cant come out of your room until x time, then when he does it what do you do? It sounds like you just get up, so are giving him exactly what he wants.

Mellowyell292 · 19/07/2022 08:31

DS is 13 and still up between 5.30 and 6. We taught him from an early age to sort himself out so from around age 6 he'd have an apple, croissant and drink by his bed plus a book/ipad.

OnSilverStars · 19/07/2022 10:17

Yes I guess our "punishment" isn't maybe strong enough. At the moment he doesn't get to play a game he likes with his dad if he gets up early. He whines about it and we stick to it, also DC2's decision what they watch on telly. He carries on for ages about it and we say. This is because sisters name stayed in bed until the sun on your clock came up, if you want to chose tomorrow, you need to stay in bed or in your room until it's time to get up.

But when he wakes up the next morning, the reminder of the punishment fall on deaf ears and the cycle repeats.

He doesn't have a nap anymore. Just hate to see him functioning on 8 hours sleep. Doesn't seem enough and his behaviour probably has deteriorated as a result

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