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Teacher telling dd5 not to come to school

46 replies

ponyclub1980 · 18/07/2022 21:32

So school in West Midlands sent a letter out last week to parents to school is optional for the 2 day heatwave. They reassured in the letter to if they had to go they would just be putting a film on & supplying ice lollies. We had no choice but to send dd5 as we both have work & she's never really suffered with the heat so have no real concerns. Today she has come out of school saying her teacher has said they should stay at home tomorrow with their grown up as it is going to be hotter than today and school will be really boring as they're not allowed outside. I know this has come from the teacher as my daughter doesn't use the words she has come out with & other parents have said their child has said the same. Aibu to be really annoyed about this? It's as though the teacher has tried to manipulate 4 & 5 year olds to stay at home. My dd5 has gone to bed in tears as I've had to tell her she has to go.

OP posts:
kitcat15 · 18/07/2022 22:57

Topgub · 18/07/2022 21:45

Yanbu

Can you phone the school tom to discuss?

To discuss what?? FFS 🙄

Topgub · 18/07/2022 22:59

@KilmordenCastle

Well, 1 to find out if it actually happened. And if it did why they felt it was appropriate

I once watched a teacher shout my 5 yo while he cried.

Too right I wanted to 'discuss' it with her.

OytheBumbler · 18/07/2022 23:05

I suppose there's no teaching happening because half the class are at home. They're not allowed outside due to the heat. They do have to 'behave' and sit quietly because they're in school.

So they are just sat at desks watching a film until home time which is pretty boring🤷🏻‍♀️

Wombat100 · 18/07/2022 23:20

Why is there always someone on these threads saying something along the lines of “poor teacher” 🧐😅 Teachers are adults doing a job like the rest of the population, not sure why we’re always expected to feel sorry for them.

Hankunamatata · 18/07/2022 23:25

Probably the kids have been moaning none stop that they are hot and they camt go outside and that they are bored. So teacher replied about staying home then

Louiselady500 · 19/07/2022 07:43

I would definitely believe your daughter. I’ve over heard very similar directly from teachers.

In every workplace you get the slackers who want to skive off whenever they can.

redskyatnight · 19/07/2022 07:56

Version 1

Teacher: "Really, you should stay at home tomorrow with your grown up as it is going to be hotter than today and school will be really boring as you won't be allowed to go outside."

Version 2
Child: I want to go outside. Will we be able to go outside tomorrow? It's boring being stuck inside!!
Teacher: If you can, you should stay at home tomorrow with your grown up as it is going to be hotter than today and, unfortunately, you still won't be able to go outside again

I suspect these would both be reported back in exactly the same way by a 5 year old.

Pruella · 19/07/2022 08:02

redskyatnight · 19/07/2022 07:56

Version 1

Teacher: "Really, you should stay at home tomorrow with your grown up as it is going to be hotter than today and school will be really boring as you won't be allowed to go outside."

Version 2
Child: I want to go outside. Will we be able to go outside tomorrow? It's boring being stuck inside!!
Teacher: If you can, you should stay at home tomorrow with your grown up as it is going to be hotter than today and, unfortunately, you still won't be able to go outside again

I suspect these would both be reported back in exactly the same way by a 5 year old.

These would both be pretty crap from the teacher to be fair. I definitely wouldn’t complain though - it’s not that big a deal and may have not been the teacher at all. Or she may have been speaking to one child who was upset about not being in or any number of things.

Icedbannoffee · 19/07/2022 08:04

Well it will be boring and super hot and uncomfortable- ideally people would keep children home.

RamblingFar · 19/07/2022 08:26

Unfortunately it will be hot and boring in school tomorrow. I expect a fair amount of her friends won't be in, and with the temperatures they are probably stuck inside, encouraged not to move about much and possibly watching a movie etc. So if parents can be at home, then the children will probably be less bored and hot with them.

Teachers aren't miracle workers and often the get very very little say in conditions or rules inside the school.

The poor teacher probably does feel the kids would be better, safer, less bored and happier at home.

Some parents will have to work and the Government want schools to be open, so a lot will be. However, that doesn't make it a nice day for the kids.

I'm sure if it was a normal day the teacher would want to be in doing the normally fun last week of term stuff. However, it won't be. If you need to send her in, then send her in. Just don't get upset if you get the honest message that she'd be better not in.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/07/2022 08:32

Louiselady500 · 19/07/2022 07:43

I would definitely believe your daughter. I’ve over heard very similar directly from teachers.

In every workplace you get the slackers who want to skive off whenever they can.

The teachers will still be in whether your child is there or not.

I am so glad I'm retired now. Teaching is getting to be such a shit job they are leaving in droves and not enough new recruits applying. Every single little thing is picked over like this.

Sirzy · 19/07/2022 08:51

I would imagine children where complaining about not being able to go outside. Teacher apologised for it being boring but that it’s not safe and explained it will be the same/worse tomorrow which is why the option to stay home with grown ups was given”

Pruella · 19/07/2022 08:52

We’re keeping our DS off today and it’ll be unauthorised do schools are taking different approaches. They want us to pick up at 12.30 but it’ll be 39 at that time according to the forecast so we’re just not bothering.

Hannakl · 19/07/2022 08:55

I know plenty of teachers that would try to manipulate 4/5yr olds. Parents also do it all the time. Teachers don’t become paragons of virtue just because they are in charge of 30 kids.

Porcupineintherough · 19/07/2022 08:58

Your 5 year old doesn't have the word "boring" in her working vocabulary? Really?

LisaSimpson77 · 19/07/2022 09:12

Obv she was concerned about catching it & ruining her break but she really pressured the children

Oh my goodness, how dare a teacher be worried about catching Covid!!

Me too - why do so many people act like teachers are never wrong or unthinking?
They're trying to balance out the assumption from a certain subset of mumsnetters that teachers are lazy, only on it of the holidays and out to sabotage their children in any way they can,

Brighteyedtriangle · 19/07/2022 09:18

My 6 year old said the same. Ive sent her today again anyway as im working. Its doesnt matter teachers have probably said this and why not if people can stay home and parents can accommodate this then great. If not, send them.

Although, about the boring part. I always remember the best day at school was always the last day that was the only day that was anything but boring.

TheOrigRights · 19/07/2022 09:28

Brighteyedtriangle · 19/07/2022 09:18

My 6 year old said the same. Ive sent her today again anyway as im working. Its doesnt matter teachers have probably said this and why not if people can stay home and parents can accommodate this then great. If not, send them.

Although, about the boring part. I always remember the best day at school was always the last day that was the only day that was anything but boring.

The issue is that it's not the teacher's place to suggest to young children that they can stay at home. The parents should be made aware that they can do so and leave the decision making, and importantly any discussion or explanation should be left to them.

Teachers who are also parents MUST get it, they are also working parents!

summermode · 19/07/2022 13:11

My kid's school gave options for parents. My LO chose to stay in school after I asked her to choose between studying at home and staying in school. She prefers the latter and happily went to school.

yesterday about 60% left earlier and I said to my LO: congratulations, you were the lucky one! (they did crafts and fun activities)

summermode · 19/07/2022 13:13

I prepared a frozen water bottle for LO to bring to school. Keep her cool and it's fun to chew the ice cube

TAKESNOSHITSHIRLEY · 19/07/2022 18:34

the posts about oh a teacher will never say that the child is mistaken or lying teachers are great

let me tell you some are evil and nasty and on major power trips and think they are in charge of all aspects of your home life(my sister is having major problems with a head as she thinks she can tell my sister what to do with my niece who's y4 in home regarding bed, parenting and food this is happening with a number of other pupils as well)

a y5 teacher bullied my 10 y old disabled child to the point of a nervous breakdown and agoraphobia ,hes 18 soon and still haven't recovered fully
this was when we discovered the world of home education and never looked back

some teachers out of ear shot and sight are nast, as a friend is a TA in reception/y1 and shes has some corkers to tell about despicable behaviours and attitudes from some teachers.

this is not oh its only 1 of them you cant tar them all
my lifestyle consists of home education groups and a special needs group(we atenvents 4-5 times a week) and many MANY special school teachers are awful in how they talk and treat a child.

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