Another Parking thread.

[0hs0s0rry]

I live on the 1st floor of a house which has been converted to flats.

There are two flats downstairs, each with their own entrances. We don’t share anything. We even have our own gardens. Own bins etc. The drive way has 3 parking spots. Each flat has its own spot. My entrance is the back of the house so I’ve had the same parking spot for 3 years.

A new couple have moved in last week and I bumped into them outside so just mentioned gardens, bins and parking spot just in conversation. They parked in the spot allocated to their flat (middle bay) the first 3 days and from day 4 have parked in my spot. My car is a lot bigger than theirs so the bay I’ve been allocated suits my car better because when I park in the middle bay, it is very very tight.

At first I thought it may have been an oversight and didn’t want to be petty, so I left it. Yesterday they had parked in my allocated spot so badly, I couldn’t fit my car in the middle bay, so had to park on the road blocking everyone in.
I made sure I was up early to move it incase anyone needed to get in.

Today I’ve come home and they have some guests over who has parked on the drive. Instead of blocking them in I’ve parked a road away.

AIBU? What do I do?

The OP has one of the three spots that come with the flats. According to the lease, there are 3 spots for the 3 flats. Therefore, one space, whichever, should be available for the OP to park in, and no visitor should be parking there if they are for residents of the flats.

Oh good. An AIBU laywer.

The OP specifically says it is an informal arrangement. Unless you have read the lease you have no idea what the position actually is.

I fail to see how you think a house with 3 flats and 3 bays on the drive means the spaces are open for anyone to park in or for one of the residents to park so badly that only 2 cars can fit on the drive. The OP says there are 3 bays and each flat has 1, although which one isn't specified. It doesn't take a wild leap to work out that the rental agreement must state that the flat comes with the ability to park in one of the bays on the drive.

@KatherineofGaunt

This is not rocket science.

If it's not specified in the lease then no one knows what provisions there are.(

It's a shame some people are such arseholes @VeniVidiWeeWee. A system that has worked perfectly well and amicably for years because of a lack of common decency.

I disagree with this completely. The new tenants are not obliged to adhere to any informal arrangement. There are 3 flats and 3 parking spaces, and the parking spaces are not allocated. They can therefore park in any 3. Why should they be forced to stuck with the tight middle space because they’re the last to move in.

If I rented a flat with unallocated parking, I would use any space I wanted. It’s like those people who live in a terraced house and complain about the space in front of their house being used.

@Clymene

Opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one. The only thing that matters is the lease.

@Glitteratitar - except they're not just parking in any old space. They're parking so badly the OP can't park and then taking up two spaces.

Yes you're right @VeniVidiWeeWee - opinions are like areeholes. And some people are just cunts.

@Clymene

What's an areehole?

They're parking so badly the OP can't park and then taking up two spaces

I agree, they should be considerate, but it really depends on how tight the spaces are. The allocated parking in my building is tight, and when I park within my space, my car parking space neighbour struggles to park their car in.

@0hs0s0rry are you 100% sure the space/flat number allocation is not in the lease? May be worth double-checking.

which part of them parking in an allocated parking spot requires a drawing to make it comprehensible ?

Are you new here?

Parking thread = diagram

@parenthood1989

Oh do grow up. This clamour for diagrams is tedious in the extreme.

Actually a diagram could be useful. If it shows that the spaces aren’t informally allocated by numerical order it gives even less credence to there being a spot allocated to each flat.

Agree with everyone that legally you have no leg to stand on but they do need to know they must tell visitors they can’t park in the spaces. The landlord could just lob up a sign saying ‘parking for residents only’ to solve that one and if you are really fussed about the particular spot, ask the landlord to number them to match the flats - although it won’t technically be in the deeds there could be no confusion then about who parks where.

@Kaileighohkaileigh

No, the only thing that matters is the terms of the lease.

If visitors aren't mentioned in the lease then they can park wherever they want.

This.

Surely as the landlord owns the property it is not just free for anyone random person to park on it in the same way that people can't just park on my drive if they fancy it!

All you can do really is speak to them, explain that visitors may not park in the bays at all, and they must park in a way that allows other residents to use the bays - you can then add in, you've always used the end spot as your car is much larger and means that everyone has to give the centre spot much more room, or say that if they block the bays again you may have to block them in and may not be up early enough for this not to be an inconvenience for them.

I'm making an inference based on what the OP has said - 3 bays, 1 for each flat.

Will try and remember in future that no-one can comment on a parking thread unless the OP posts their lease/deeds at the same time so we can only comment on exactly what is in the legal documents. That should make AIBU fun.

Wow, some arsey people this morning. 3 spaces, 3 flats. Really fairly simple to actual real life common sense and not MN.bizarro world. OP surely this isn't hard..have a quick word re visitors and parking in the lines. Get that sorted first. The middle bay thing is trickier but see how the first bit goes then ask, say you're worried about dinging their car or your neighbours as it's such a squeeze for your bigger car. They might shrug that one off but it's not a problem to ask. If they get a bigger car at some point though you'll have no leg to stand on.

She's told them she always parks at the end. They did for a couple of days then decided they preferred the end too. So it's now just up to whoever gets their first.

I think you've got into a habit, and it's not in the deeds /rental agreement so your new neighbours are quite right to chose the one they want
What's the score with visitors? Are the parking spaces available to them too or is it 1 space per flat that you pay part if your rent for?
With regard to the crappy parking I'd be knocking and telling them to move and if they do it again you'll have to block them in as it's not very neighbourly and you shouldn't have to tell them about their inability to park

If each flat has the right to a parking bay the new tenants need to know that they can't let friends park on there, at least.

Are all the flats rented from the same landlord?

You prefer the end spot so it’s not a great leap to assume they do too.

The only thing they’ve done wrong is to park wonky once, which might have been a one off.

The visitors parking might also be ok. There are three parking spaces for residents but if the lease doesn’t specifically say one each, then the other resident was using it for their visitors. What would happen if they had two cars? It could be a first come, first served, scenario.

Goodness you are miserable. It was just a joke.