to think that many folk in the UK don't understand how dangerous extreme heat is?

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Seriously, telling a teacher to suck it up in a classroom with no aircon and 30 kids at 40 degrees.

I have many times experienced this kind of heat and you have to keep cool, otherwise it is truly dangerous

@Felixsmama but are you deliberately missing my point? I’m trying to tell you it’s not just about school staff getting on with it. Its not the staff that are being protected.

my daughters place of work is closing for two days. Very busy restaurant, everyone on social media has praised them for making a sensible decision. So is it only sensible if it doesn’t involve school staff? Where does this vitriol come from?

Surely you’re more of a snowflake if you can’t go for 2 whole days without a pub meal or ordering a takeaway. In the hottest places, you probably won’t feel that hungry anyway. Id also recommend the supermarket as a good place to cool down.

Wards / offices having no aircon has absolutely nothing to do with being concerned about 40 kids in a small unventilated classroom. Absolutely nothing. Someone having a shit time does not make it acceptable for someone else having an (avoidable) shit time.

ITS NOT A FUCKING COMPETITION!!!

The point is that climbing that a temperature has "doubled" from 20C to 40C is a complete nonsense if you apply even the most rudimentary knowledge of physics (this is sub-GCSE level stuff). It shows a complete lack of understanding of what temperature actually is!

If you're happy for the media to continue dumbing down and talking to the public as if we are thick, then pay it no mind.

Me, I'd rather journalistic standards were just a little bit higher than that. Factual accuracy shouldn't be too much to expect, whatever the topic being discussed.

@timeisswoopingby

I see the number of kids is increasing as fast as the temperatures

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Hmmm little typo there

Although if all the "you're all snowflakes!" posters can get all hyperbolic then why can't I?

Well actually it is boiling hot! And in countries like Africa and India people are climatized to the heat, so it's ridiculous to compare, as Brits we are not used to this kind of heat.

@timeisswoopingby yes exactly!

@timeisswoopingby

I dont think pointing out other people have it worse than teachers is hyperbolic

It is interesting that it only seems to be teachers who are starting threads saying they can't possibly be expected to go to work.

@Topgub well all the people who can work from home won't need to. And many others, like hospital staff don't have a choice.
Schools have a responsibility to keep students safe, that is the law. My classroom is currently 42° with no one in it. Would you suggest I fill it with 6 classes of 30+ kids today ? V happy for you to join us.

@mumsneedwine

No thanks, I lucked out. I'm on a/l this week

I think the covid response has led a lot of teachers to think their jobs are optional tbh.

Under the guise of 'keeping pupils safe'

Absolutely.

@Topgub ah you're a peach aren't you. I've not had one day off during the pandemic, or one day working at home. You ? I can't take annual leave whenever I like, unlike some people. Im only on MN as I'm taking a loo break (this is something of a luxury today).
Teacher bashing, the new national sport. And people wonder why only half the training places are filled and thousands of job roles are empty from September.

@Badgirlriri so you'd like to join me in my classroom today ? You're v welcome.

@mumsneedwine

I'm sorry you feel bashed.

I dont think teachers help themselves much though, tbh.

I'd rather be sitting in an empty classroom or mn from the loo than doing my job today.

Lucky for me I dont have to do either

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If you're happy for the media to continue dumbing down and talking to the public as if we are thick, then pay it no mind.

Blimey, that’s me told! Yes I’m aware that it’s numbers that only work in Celsius. However if 21Cis that many degrees above freezing, then 41C is almost the same again. Hot in anyones language. Tomorrow, I wish we could go back to, ‘phew, what a scorcher 105 degrees!’

You aren’t really a HCP, are you? Because you’re pretty rubbish if you don’t understand what happens to the human body if you get heatstroke. Whilst some parts of the country are fine, others are going to be really hot.

Teachers (and the children) could work from home or start early in the morning , and finish early if education was the real priority but the ‘childcare’ brigade don’t want that to happen. Much happier to pretend it’s just fine so they aren’t inconvenienced tbh.

No, they really aren’t. Look at the posts on the other thread where teachers were happily posting that they’d not step in to help a child being assaulted as they didn’t want to get hurt themselves. This isn’t about the children, it’s just more of the standard moaning by teachers about how hard everything is.

Don’t be silly, that’s not how temperature works.

Using your “logic” what fraction has the temperature increased by if it goes from -1 to 10?

Your method would say it’s -10 times hotter, so clearly a nonsense.

@BustopherPonsonbyJones

LA should be risk assessing each school, absolutely.

I've never said all schools should remain open or insist all teachers and children should have to attend.

But what is extreme heat. I would only class 40+ as extreme. 35 is very hot and fairly unusual for the U.K. but extreme? No. 50 is extreme

@gogohmm my classroom is now 44° (I'm not in it - site staff are monitoring it as if it wasn't extreme we might go in tomorrow). Add 30 sweaty bodies and it could well hit 50°. But hey, I just want the day 'off'. It is nice going to the loo when I want and having tea though.

@CecilyP but people who work in supermarkets have kids too, they need to have them in school. Plus remember it's not as hot everywhere. Top temperature is currently 31 anywhere in U.K. as per met office - this is normal summer heat

"The hysteria in the UK because of a few days sunshine is ridiculous!" It's not just sunshine, it's temperatures this country has never recorded before and is ill-prepared for. Some jobs you can't stay home from in this weather, no (although everyone I know who works in the NHS is absolutely bricking it about the impact on patients and elderly and ill people dying of heatstroke). But it's not "just sunshine". It can kill you.