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When did you first hear of the awful sexual abuse in Telford?

89 replies

Gogster · 16/07/2022 17:19

I heard about it about a week ago - utterly shameful. Husband had literally just heard about it 5 minutes ago when I told him.

Where has the coverage of this been?

AIBU to think it's not just my ignorance, the media has been silent on this?

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StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 20:12

It's been on a lot this week because the report findings have been released. It was definitely on the BBC because I listened to it via Alexa and there were interviews etc.

This is yet another thing that the right wingers have jumped on to further divide the country. All this talk of MSM blocking the story is an out and out lie.

I made the mistake of replying to someone on Twitter the other day who was saying the left were 'complicit' - it's genuinely laughable, honestly.

The people who ARE complicit are the Police chiefs who instructed whole departments to shut it down for fear of stirring up racial tension. There's not a person in the land, regardless of political leanings, who wouldn't love to see that person named, shamed and prosecuted!

userxx · 16/07/2022 20:13

It's been going on for years up and down the country. I was on a thread not that long ago that was pulled due to accusations of racism. Unbelievable. Let's just bury our head in the sand as we don't want to upset people.

Sazzasez · 16/07/2022 20:15

It’s in the news now because of the inquiry which has concluded.

it was in the news a few years ago when some of men were convicted.

But there have been a numbwe of cases like this.

Florenz · 16/07/2022 20:31

Liberals are definitely at fault for the environment they created, where police and social workers etc were more afraid of being called racist than they were of being accused of preventing the abuse from happening.

vermicello · 16/07/2022 20:40

It's so weird that this isn't front page news. It's something like over 1,000 victims. I wonder why the mainstream media has basically ignored it.

Blackdiame · 16/07/2022 20:43

This thread is the first I've heard of it.

Impier · 16/07/2022 20:48

StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 20:12

It's been on a lot this week because the report findings have been released. It was definitely on the BBC because I listened to it via Alexa and there were interviews etc.

This is yet another thing that the right wingers have jumped on to further divide the country. All this talk of MSM blocking the story is an out and out lie.

I made the mistake of replying to someone on Twitter the other day who was saying the left were 'complicit' - it's genuinely laughable, honestly.

The people who ARE complicit are the Police chiefs who instructed whole departments to shut it down for fear of stirring up racial tension. There's not a person in the land, regardless of political leanings, who wouldn't love to see that person named, shamed and prosecuted!

Don't blame the right wingers. Don't blame the police. The people responsible for children being raped are the child rapists.

forlornlorna1 · 16/07/2022 20:53

Soon enough you'll here of this going on in Birmingham in the 80's.

I was bought up in care and these monsters targeted us. Staff didn't care, ss couldn't be arsed, teachers turned a blind eye and police blamed us.

vermicello · 16/07/2022 21:00

forlornlorna1 · 16/07/2022 20:53

Soon enough you'll here of this going on in Birmingham in the 80's.

I was bought up in care and these monsters targeted us. Staff didn't care, ss couldn't be arsed, teachers turned a blind eye and police blamed us.

It's loads of places all over the UK, not just Telford and Rotherham. It has all been suppressed by the police and authorities for decades because they didn't want to rock the boat re community relations. Just shows you how those in power view poor working class girls as worthless and expendable.

MorganKitten · 16/07/2022 21:01

I knew about it in 2017 when the documentary and interviews were on TV. It’s in the news again due to updates in charges.
Some of the girls, now women have TikTok accounts they’ve been posting on about it.

StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 21:13

Florenz · 16/07/2022 20:31

Liberals are definitely at fault for the environment they created, where police and social workers etc were more afraid of being called racist than they were of being accused of preventing the abuse from happening.

Senior Police chiefs telling whole forces to turn the other cheek to avoid racial tension is not the fault of liberalism. It's literally sacrificing children to make their own jobs easier.

The names of those Police chiefs should be released to the public and they should be prosecuted.

You can't lay the blame at the feet of the left for this.

Florenz · 16/07/2022 21:13

StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 20:06

I've seen loads about it, including on the news AND via BBC - I certainly wouldn't stoop so low as to watch GB News and the suggestion that other mainstream media hasn't covered it just isn't true!!

It was an open secret for many years, and the BBC never said a word.

Would the BBC even be reporting it now if not for GB News reporting it and the BBC's hand being forced?

Florenz · 16/07/2022 21:15

The left care more about the police being "diverse" and "multicultural" than about them actually fighting crime.

drinkingwineoutofamug · 16/07/2022 21:19

Tommy Robinson , as much as he is hated. Has a channel on YouTube. Think it's call Tom fury. He does an investigation surrounding Telford and how deep the corruption was.

SpartacusNotEsther · 16/07/2022 21:25

I haven't heard about it this week, bit I did hear about it years ago.

Tbf I have been very busy doing overtime at work the last fortnight, covering holidays, so haven't paid much attention to the news.

PermanentTemporary · 16/07/2022 21:29

I read about it in the Grauniad this week.

DaniRabbity · 17/07/2022 02:44

The MSM and patriarchal society don't give a shit about girls at all. This has nothing to do with race or left wing versus right wing, and all to do with the fact sexual crimes are not taken seriously, and that patriarchy devalues girls and treats girls like shit.

People trying to make it all about race and claim the MSM are ignoring it for left wing/woke/racial reasons, how do you explain the fact the overwhelming majority of grooming is by white British men, that most grooming gangs are white and the MSM completely ignore that too?

Whoever mentioned Fox News, your beloved Fox News totally ignores the 90% of grooming gangs that are white, are you cool with them ignoring grooming that doesn't fit their political agenda?

user1471504747 · 17/07/2022 10:01

Do people really think it’s because the police were afraid of looking racist?

Maybe if that’s something the police were actually worried about we wouldn’t have cases such as child Q.

And let’s not pretend they care about female victims of white abusers either. I mean just look at both the prosecution etc stats for rape and sexual abuse, and look at how so many victims are treated and even just scared to come forward because they know how they will be treated.

The reasons for these grooming gangs continuing for decades it two fold, firstly the police do not care about women, let alone working class girls in care. Many fully believe child prostitution is the girls choice and way to make a bit of pocket money. Secondly, sometimes very senior people in the council, police, MPs etc are involved and can put some pressure on police to turn a blind eye.

Fear of looking racism would be a great reason to try to cover up the institutional misogyny and corruption of the police force, if the police force wasn’t also institutionally racist AND it cared about the victims of white abusers.

The people who take the disaster of over 1,000 girls being abused, and use it to say that PC has gorn mad, complain about woke snowflakes etc need to have a long hard look at themselves because they are disgusting individuals if this is what they get from a case like this.

I mean supporting and praising Tommy Robinson really

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/07/2022 10:23

No one knew the scale or how awful things were for those poor girls

Actually plenty of people knew, but as usual they weren't listened to

And in other news, it's reported that Shabir Ahmed - the ringleader of the Rotherham abusers - has been give an "equalities role" in prison

Usou · 17/07/2022 10:28

Victims of CSE run to thousands or possibly tens of thousands over the decades, but reporting on the issue has never achieved any kind of momentum - especially in the MSM. Indeed where are the supporting feminist marches and Me Too type protests?

The report on Rotherham concluded that failures on the part of police and social services were a result of trying to avoid appearing racist. I personally would blame the perpetrators primarily.

Tommy Robinson attempted to cover one of the trials as the MSM certainly weren't, and I think he was arrested for it and eventually imprisoned. Likewise, I remember the NF highlighting this issue in the Keighley area of Yorkshire back in the 1970s for which they were maligned and ridiculed.

The issue as far as I can see is cultural and religious: the victims - mainly but not exclusively white working class girls - are not members of the religion in question and their standards of dress, behaviour and morals fall far short of the required standards, making them lesser beings and therefore deserving of such treatment. This is a constant, remains unchanged, and will be behind ongoing and future such abuse cases.

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 10:32

StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 20:12

It's been on a lot this week because the report findings have been released. It was definitely on the BBC because I listened to it via Alexa and there were interviews etc.

This is yet another thing that the right wingers have jumped on to further divide the country. All this talk of MSM blocking the story is an out and out lie.

I made the mistake of replying to someone on Twitter the other day who was saying the left were 'complicit' - it's genuinely laughable, honestly.

The people who ARE complicit are the Police chiefs who instructed whole departments to shut it down for fear of stirring up racial tension. There's not a person in the land, regardless of political leanings, who wouldn't love to see that person named, shamed and prosecuted!

Well, there’s Naz Shah, the Labour MP who thinks that the victims should have “shut up” to benefit “diversity.”

GCHeretic · 17/07/2022 10:37

StaunchMomma · 16/07/2022 21:13

Senior Police chiefs telling whole forces to turn the other cheek to avoid racial tension is not the fault of liberalism. It's literally sacrificing children to make their own jobs easier.

The names of those Police chiefs should be released to the public and they should be prosecuted.

You can't lay the blame at the feet of the left for this.

You can. These are mainly crimes of the Pakistani Muslim community, who tend to vote for Labour and have been feted by Labour for decades. It’s no surprise that Labour have become so antisemitic, it’s a policy that plays well in that community in the UK.

For a long time the people trying to bring attention to what was happening were branded as racists, by the left, and as above, we even had a Labour MP who believed that the victims should stay quiet, for “diversity.”

The attempts to blame “the right” for this are shameful.

VillanellesCoat · 17/07/2022 10:40

JFC I’ve definitely seen it all on here now if people are looking to Tommy Robinson as a source of unbiased information

DaisyDozyDee · 17/07/2022 10:44

I’ve been seeing the news stories about these cases for years. I do tend to read local news from that area, which is probably why I was aware of it before it hit national headlines.
I lived in a couple of the areas that were involved in these cases while I was growing up and it’s a weird feeling to see the news stories now about things I was completely oblivious to then. So many of the victims were my generation.

Usou · 17/07/2022 10:47

@GCHeretic

Spot on.