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Exe’s employer FAKING negative drug test- FAMILY COURT/ ABUSE

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Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 09:56

Posting here for traffic.
Was in a relationship with my ex for a short period before I accidentally fell pregnant despite being on the pill. I met him online and I had only known him 2 months at the time.
To cut a long story short he abused me throughout our relationship (in every way apart from physically, other than pushing me a number of times) and when I left the relationship ( when our baby was 6 months old) I reported him to the police and found out he had previous convictions for domestic abuse and stalking. His ex actually had an interdict in place and she still had to move as he kept showing up at her house and threatening to physically hurt her.
The police have now also charged him with domestic abuse to me and he plead not guilty and we are going to trial soon. (There are also bail conditions in place currently so he can’t contact me, or approach me etc)
A lot of exes behaviour when we were together made me think he may have a drug problem (disappearing frequently and stealing large amounts of money from me to name a few) and I found a couple tiny empty plastic bags in his wallet and when I confronted him he became very angry and somehow managed to turn it around on me make me feel bad for having suspected he had taken drugs.
ex has applied to court to see our baby. He wants weekends and half the holidays. Ex was terrible with baby and did nothing for him. He only abused me infront of our baby numerous times causing him to become extremely distressed.
At the moment Family court has ordered no contact until a report is done over the coming weeks. Despite exes family witnessing his abuse to me and how much it upset our baby they have sided with him and are speaking to the reporter on his side. He also has a friend who has met me and my child briefly twice who is speaking to the reporter for him. I assume they are all going to try and say they have witnessed what a great dad ex is and I am a liar etc.
I worry as ex’s parents are very successful and well spoken and they have a lot of money and this reporter is going to speak to them in their huge beautiful home and I worry they might be fooled by them as they come across as nice people initially.
On my side I have a relative of mine who witnessed the abuse of me infront of my child who is going to speak to the reporter.
Now.. this is where I have a serious problem...
when I was with my ex he mentioned his ex a number of times and actually told me her name. He didn’t tell me what had actually happened between them he just lied about her to make me feel bad for him basically. Anyway I remember her name so I looked her up on Facebook and messaged her after I found out about his convictions . We got talking and she was with ex for 5 years and has known him for 9 years in total. She told me ex has a huge drug problem that his parents are aware of as well and they have paid off many of his drugs debts over the years as they have had drug gangs at their door threatening them. All the same things he did to her he did to me as wel which makes me think he is definitely still using drugs.
I asked her if she would speak to the reporter but she won’t as she is too scared of what ex might do. This means the reporter can’t put anything said in the messages in her report as she can’t verify who they have come from.
Then after this exes employer also called me as I was still down as emergency contact. To cut a long story short ex up and resigned suddenly and there are things that happened at work that have lead this employer to believe he may have been taking drugs while at work. I explained situation to him and he has offered to speak to the reporter and answer any questions she has for him and explain his concerns ex was taking drugs while at work.
Now my ex has found out about this and now has a very good friend of his dad’s who owns a small company speaking to this reporter. I know of this man and he is a very corrupt man with no morals and he has also falsified a work contract and payslips for my ex in the past as a favour to exes dad. Ex said this employer drug tests him regularly (which he doesn’t drug test at all as ex has told me before he doesn’t drug test any of his employees). So I assume this guy is going to say he drug tests ex regularly and they have all come back negative (ex doesn’t even really work for him has only done a few jobs for him here and there).
I don’t have proof of the things he has lied about for ex before or that he is a very good friend of exes dad. I’m worried the court might not order drug testing if the guy falsifies negative drug test results for ex which I could totally see him doing...
just don’t know what to do, worried sick he will be able to go away baby on his own and put him in danger and in case something was to happen
what can I do??

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RandomMess · 16/07/2022 10:06

The court can ask for drug tests to be down regularly, don't traces stay in your hair?

You tell the reporter that you believe it's lies.

Aliceinunderland · 16/07/2022 10:10

As pp said, the court can order him to do a hair strand test which depending on the length of his hair, can be dated back to six months. He won't be able to trick them as they will be an independent company who use photo ID to verify him. If he refuses to do this, the court can make the conclusion he is hiding drug use.

Tothemoonandbackx · 16/07/2022 10:19

Tried to get a link but would let me copy it

Exe’s employer FAKING negative drug test- FAMILY COURT/ ABUSE
CandyLeBonBon · 16/07/2022 10:25

I saw another thread here this morning about the same issue? Or am I imagining it?

Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:30

No that was me as well! I am seriously panicking!

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wejammin · 16/07/2022 10:31

The Cafcass reporter is not going to speak to anyone except you or the child's dad. They don't speak to anyone else except in fairly unusual circumstances, and even then it would be nursery/school etc rather than ex partners and employees. The only way to bring in any additional evidence would be to seek permission for a statement from those people to be filed.
You can still tell the Cafcass officer about what the ex told you.
Courts will not accept drug test results from anyone other than a court approved provider.
Have you got a solicitor? You should be eligible for legal aid on the basis of the police intervention.

CandyLeBonBon · 16/07/2022 10:32

Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:30

No that was me as well! I am seriously panicking!

Ah right - sorry you're going through this. Ive nothing practical to offer other my sympathy for what sounds like a very stressful situation. Flowers

Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:33

Thank you for all the replies everyone.
I was just worried the court might not feel the need to drug test him if this employer says he’s been drug tested at work regularly and all results have come back as negative
i don’t really have proof of his drug use other than me and the other employer suspecting he may have a drug problem based on his behaviour
I know with court it’s all about with u can prove with solid evidence and the fake drug tests I suppose is the only thing they might view as solid evidence

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Tothemoonandbackx · 16/07/2022 10:37

Another one I've had to screen shot.

Exe’s employer FAKING negative drug test- FAMILY COURT/ ABUSE
Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:38

It’s not a CAFCASS report, I’m not in England and we don’t have CAFCASS here. It’s called a bar report and it’s a third party solicitor appointed by the court who speaks to everyone so she is speaking to exes parents and friend and my relative it was all decided at last hearing . The reporter spends quite a bit of time interviewing everyone and she is going to look into exes previous convictions and the interdict ex had As well as what’s in my police report. The repor r is very thorough I’ve heard. I do have a solicitor though thankfully!

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liveforsummer · 16/07/2022 10:38

I had a pretty similar situation- ex had a flat are telling the reporter what an amazing committed dad he was (based on why ex had told him- he'd never met the dc or seen ex with them) I had lots of evidence of past convictions and drug use, this was ignored - no request for drug tests were made by court. They took his word that I was making it up and that he was telling the truth. He got the contact he asked for.

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/07/2022 10:39

Cafcass are not going to speak to anybody but you, your ex and if your child was older, the school. They will do background searches and obtain police records. You can tell them everything you've said here. All of it. The court can order drug tests. No amount of money or rich parents can influence this. It sounds as if his police record will say enough on its own. Please try and trust the process and concentrate on being calm and measured and child focused. That is really important. Good luck.

Tothemoonandbackx · 16/07/2022 10:39

What we're his previous convictions?????

Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:39

Hmm I see. So would me and his employer suspecting he has been taking drugs not be enough then?

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Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:41

Thank you for your reply, it’s not a cafcass report it’s a bar report we don’t have CAFCASS in this country so the reporter is speaking to his parents etc . You’re right though I need to try and relax, I’m making myself ill with worry

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Newmum1998 · 16/07/2022 10:42

he was convicted of domestic abuse and there’s some sort of stalking conviction

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Newmum1998 · 25/08/2022 19:54

Well folks they believed all the lies he told and he got contact without any drug testing! Completely dismissed all the evidence I had of drugs and didn’t even include it in their report ..gutted would be an understatement

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Newmum1998 · 25/08/2022 19:57

The employer who told me he had taken drugs has now had the sack also ! And not admitted to the convo as it would mean serious consequences for him as breach of data protection but still lost his job

feel like I’m living in an episode of east Enders or something but it’s actually my life. He had two relatives claiming to be eyewitnesses to him being great dad and Court just believed it. Didn’t even include all the abuse to me and volatile behaviour in front of our son/while holding our son in report and just glossed over the bits they did include

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Stickworm · 25/08/2022 20:02

I’m so sorry this has happened 😞 what contact will he have?

Newmum1998 · 25/08/2022 20:14

they recommended contact centre initially but he’s trying to get out of that at moment and get court to let his relatives supervise even though he said to reporter he would do anything to see our child and would absolutely go to a centre..oh and the relatives he wants to supervise are the ones who lied for him.. and they made some pretty malicious allegations about me and lied entirely about a number of incidents so I certainly so not trust them.

really in shock...funnily enough he denied everything to reporter and tried to say I abused him and turned incidents he had done things around on me but he pled guilty in court to number of the things which he denied to reporter and I accepted a plea bargain which meant he was still convicted and I got a non harassment order but to a less so but still serious offence but meant I didn’t have to go to trial

I kinda wish now i had been strong enough to go to trial but I was just struggling with this all. He lies and they listen..I point them to evidence which they ignore.. feel hopeless

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Newmum1998 · 25/08/2022 20:17

Anyway regardless of him pleading guilty to those to things (some things involving our child) family court do not care what so ever and seem to believe his lies still

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