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Dumping friend

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Myhappyfamily · 13/07/2022 18:02

Would it be cruel to dump my friend?

i’m on my own with two children and no support so I’m not well off and her requests for favours are too much, she “borrows” things that she has never once returned or replaced, towels that were expensive, lots of cigarettes and tobacco, this is the major one for her always scrounging tobacco, food, toilet paper, I had a stock of six bottles of calpol, three baby and three big kids, when she seen the medicine supplies she said “oh I know where to come for calpol now “ and she did end up taking two bottles, one for her son and one for her niece, I’m not going to turn away a sick child so I found it very manipulative, she gets over £2000 a month in benefits and only has the one child to support and a small flat to keep, it’s disposable income as her rent is paid and council tax, it’s a lot more than we have disposable.

She is addicted to taking cocaine and that’s where her money is going, I think she should buy her own wheelbarrow and lawnmower and not keep taking mine, twice I had to “steal” my items back from her garden as they were never returned when promised and then right away she asks to borrow them again. She would never think to buy me a packet of cigarettes to make up for the hundreds she has “borrowed”, she lost a family member and I felt very sorry for her she phoned me up upset saying that her brother was on a bus and she was to pay his fair at this end but she had no money, all I had was £20 that belonged to my child and I gave it to her, the fair would have been £5 so she could have given me back £10 of my child’s money but they spent it on alcohol, she mentioned being owe me this £20 once afterwards and I said to forget about it and think about it as a gift, I’d already written it off and didn’t want to make it uncomfortable between us, The thing is she later told me that the day I gave her the £20 she had cash in her house but didn’t want to use it.

she has asked to borrow money many times since and I tell her that I have nothing to give myself, she was worried that social workers would look in her food supplies and needed money to stage the kitchen for their visit I refused but another mum gave her £15 and some cigarettes, she plays the victim in all of this, poor her is desperate for a cigarette and you are a bad greedy person denying her when you have plenty, same with everything else she covets, she does this mooching to all of her friends, always on the scrounge for something, she told me she only spends £15 a week on food for the two of them, I’m around £150 at least for the three of us not including extras like take away or eating out or movie night treats, I don’t think it’s right to not have good food at home for growing children, I couldn’t do that to mine and spend hundreds on drugs. He gets very little at Christmas and birthdays which shocked me given her disposable income.

The other thing is disappearing and expecting me to be home for her child, never in my life would I not be home for kids after school, she goes away to other towns and doesn’t come back in time for her child coming home from school, I made it clear I wasn’t interested in watching her child, I wouldn’t ask her to mind mine, I’m not comfortable with the inconvenience, she called me up hinting she wanted to go to the supermarket in the next town but didn’t want to take her child, she could have got out of bed in the morning and went instead of sleeping all day, I said no to keeping him so she got on the bus anyway and her child appeared at mine after school saying that the mother would be another four hours yet, she’s done it again since and makes me feel bad for not wanting to be the solution to her child minding problems.

she phones me up at all hours and talks for hours on cocaine, I feel sorry for her and her child and awful that I just want rid because she keeps crossing my boundaries and I hate myself for giving in or being manipulated by her, my boundaries are never to lend or borrow, I’m not greedy I give to charity, cash to homeless in the street, I would help anyone out as a one off but I feel used when the same person keeps returning asking for favours or to take my belongings, I’ll lend you my hoover until your new one comes next week but I don’t want to share my hoover with you forever as if it’s half yours, if you are short I’ll buy you lunch but I don’t want to buy you lunch every week if that makes sense?

so am I a greedy horrible person or should I drop this friend?

There is more stuff like asking me to run errands, I told her I had to go off the phone as I was on my way out for take away and then she phoned back and asked me to pick up something for her and drop it off, getting the money was like getting blood out of a stone, asked me to go to the chemist for her, a few times she asked me to pick up things from the shop when I was out and she never offered me the money, I think this is the height of cheek, I asked her for money up front last time for milk and she admitted she didn’t have any so could she have some of mine out of the fridge instead. She keeps putting her problems on me and I feel I’ve got enough of my own, no one gives me free stuff and I wouldn’t dream of asking, I’d sit with nothing but my pride rather than ask her or anyone to give me cigarettes or milk.

maybe I should help her more but my instincts tell me that she is a moocher who would leave me with nothing so she doesn’t go without. I have my own children to think about and don’t want to supplement someone who wastes money on drugs, she is relentlessly in getting something she wants, saying no is like a challenge and she will just ask again, I’ve ignored her last phone call and message asking me for cigarettes.

OP posts:
TigerRag · 13/07/2022 18:04

what are you getting out of this "friendship" / is she doing anything in return?

Underscore21 · 13/07/2022 18:07

so am I a greedy horrible person or should I drop this friend?
Do you seriously have to ask?
She's taking money that belongs to your children. Get rid of her. She can sponge for drug money elsewhere, not from a single mother of 2 on a low income.

Myhappyfamily · 13/07/2022 18:16

No nothing in return, I don’t want friends to do me favours or for her to give me anything, I just don’t think being friends with someone needy is going to work for me.

OP posts:
Bonjovispjs · 13/07/2022 18:18

People can only take advantage if you let them.

Electriq · 13/07/2022 18:20

The more you say yes, the more she will ask.

She knows that you will pick up her slack if she throws it your way, so she is continuing to do it.

Get rid of this one way arrangement.

pheonixrebirth · 13/07/2022 18:20

Report her to social services, she's a drug addict and her poor kid is the loser in all of that.

Bloodyusernamechange · 13/07/2022 18:21

Block her and move on. Shell find someone else to sponge off of

FatFilledTrottyPuss · 13/07/2022 18:21

You’re only unreasonable in as much as you've put up her for so long. You say your boundaries are to never lend or borrow but she’s trampled all over that hasn’t she?
Cut her loose OP. She’s absolutely taking the piss out of you and you’re enabling her crappy lifestyle.

ZaraSizeMedium · 13/07/2022 18:22

The best thing about someone like this is that you don’t even have to ‘drop’ them.

You just have to stop loaning her anything and after a week or two you won’t see her for dust because she isn’t interested in a friendship, she is only interested in what she can get from you, and she’ll soon find someone else to leech off.

Shangrila · 13/07/2022 18:23

I got as far as wheelbarrow. Ditch her.

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 13/07/2022 18:26

I'm not normally one to be too harsh, but fucking HELL. You're an absolute mug. Why on Earth are you handing over money YOUR CHILDREN need to this scrounger?

Bloody hell, grow a spine and close the bank to this ingrate. You're letting your own children go without!

Meraas · 13/07/2022 18:34

Honestly I think lots of people enjoy being taken advantage of.

They would have to, to let this friend take from them like this.

Myhappyfamily · 13/07/2022 18:40

pheonixrebirth · 13/07/2022 18:20

Report her to social services, she's a drug addict and her poor kid is the loser in all of that.

There’s always a drama and threats of suicide, she asked someone to watch her child for an evening and was gone for a week on a bender,
she self harms and sleeps all day, her child gets up in the morning and goes to school themselves, I feel her child is being put in situations that make them vulnerable and I don’t want my children involved,
I don’t want to fall out with her but don’t want to remain friends either , she is repeatedly being reported to child protection by others, her child was asking for food in the local cafe dressed in rags and someone reported her and also because the child goes door to door asking to do odd jobs for money or food, there is some kind of involvement, a worker comes and takes the child away for days out and they have seen inside the house, it’s a sight to behold, I don’t know how she gets away with it all.

OP posts:
Tiani4 · 13/07/2022 18:40

Yanbu

Go collect all your stuff. Do not lend her anything else. Do not lend her money. Block your friend on the phone and enjoy the peace

Your "friend" is a drug addict . She is using you. She is stealing money and expensive items from you "borrowing but never returning" how many times will she steal what you need for your DCs? You have got to stop enabling her, if only for your DCs. (& your sanity)

Tbh as I am a social worker albeit not a child one , if I were her friend I would have an absolute duty to report her drug taking whilst caring for a child to child safeguarding (U.K.) and her inability to buy food and milk for her child to children services as a safeguarding concern as would any police, teacher , NHS or social care friends.

I think that duty is and should be wider to any member of the community - but for eg us in the related fields would lose our registration (& careers ) if we did not report her and sat on it.

It's not really a difficult choice to make for anyone as she has a son depending on her. As she is clearly off her head on cocaine sometimes- she will be neglecting her child and spending money on drugs that he will need for food and milk. The services will alert GP and HV or school and make enquiries to establish if her child is safe. You can say you want to be an anonymous referrer kept confidential and choose if you want to leave your tel no.

It's not uncommon for drug users when "out of it" to be severely negligent & leave something out that a child could eat and it could kill them.

So NC her 100% and consider making an anonymous report to children's safeguarding please. They will make enquiries

This is not a friend you need nor want to have around. Cut her off immediately and don't look back.
If she catches you in person say "I will not nor cannot lend you money nor items and I don't want you around me nor my children"

OnaBegonia · 13/07/2022 18:41

£2000 in benefits, that's always squeezed in isn't it. That will include her rent and CT as it's now paid direct to tenant, nobody is getting that on top of rent and CT.

GreenFridge · 13/07/2022 18:46

But why would you be even the remotest of acquaintances with this woman, far less consider her a friend and enable her?

Tiani4 · 13/07/2022 18:49

@OnaBegonia
That's true. However I think ahem you slightly the point of the OP post when she said that.

It's irrelevant how much really that this friend is getting. She's getting benefit money to pay rent and food etc it might be tight but all parents have to prioritise their DCs and roof over their heads & bills. She's not starving in the streets without money and she is stealing from OP who has equally tight budget with 2 DCs.

I think OPs point was that she is spending her DWP benefit money on cocaine rather than her DS and milk and food etc

That is a neglectful parent

Let alone that she is bombed off her face sometimes

Tiani4 · 13/07/2022 18:50

Missed
I missed out the word "missed" in first sentence

MayISuggestSomeThickCutSteakChipsToGoWithThat · 13/07/2022 18:52

She gets £2000 in benefits? I think I'll jack my job in tomorrow! After all why bother slaving away for less money when I can get paid nearly double what I earn for sitting on my arse all day!!

hattie43 · 13/07/2022 18:57

Broken Britain

Testina · 13/07/2022 19:02

Got as far as the £2K benefits not including a free house, started laughing, didn’t read any more.

You’ll be wrong about the details - but you’re a sap. Letting her take two bottles of Calpol 😆 Lay off the cigarettes yourself - it’s a better example to your kids than her coke I suppose, but it’s still bad.

Testina · 13/07/2022 19:03

“stealing from OP who has equally tight budget with 2 DCs.”
Not that tight - plenty spare for tobacco - and wholesale levels of Calpol.

OnaBegonia · 13/07/2022 19:08

@Tiani4
Not missing the point, just fed up
with the benefits delusions.

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 13/07/2022 19:17

5/10 for the premise
8/10 for effort of writing that
2/10 for execution

Having the £2k disposable income from benefits line so close to the cocaine abuse line is where you lost the believability factor and from there it only gets worse. Best not to over complicate a story if you want the reader to remain interested.

All in all a good first effort but I think you need a few more practice stories before you're ready for the weekly Daily Mail benefit bashing story I assume you're aiming to have published.

Georgeskitchen · 13/07/2022 19:17

Block her now and report her to social services

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