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To ask you to help me teach my child about race and culture?

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HoorayForMe · 13/07/2022 12:57

Hello,

I hope this is okay. My son is nearly 2 and is white British. Where I grew up was a very multi cultural society and growing up we learned about different cultures, religions etc. Where I currently live is predominantly white British. Whilst a lot of people I know who grew up here aren’t racist, some are. It’s usually not deliberately nasty, but if often rather ignorant (which of course I dispute and discuss where possible).
I don’t want that for my child. I want my son to grow up understanding race, culture and religion, but I worry that only mixing with white British atheist/Christians, he won’t ever really develop that. I can read him books, show him videos and talk to him about it, but I’d love some support on how to do this. How do I talk to my child? What good books are there that we can start introducing him to? And will it be an issue if he never mixes with other cultures, even if I do all that I can to teach him myself? In school I remember learning all about Eid and Ramadan etc from the children who celebrated those things. He won’t get to do that, so will he be naturally less tolerant?

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entropynow · 13/07/2022 16:53

HoorayForMe · 13/07/2022 12:57

Hello,

I hope this is okay. My son is nearly 2 and is white British. Where I grew up was a very multi cultural society and growing up we learned about different cultures, religions etc. Where I currently live is predominantly white British. Whilst a lot of people I know who grew up here aren’t racist, some are. It’s usually not deliberately nasty, but if often rather ignorant (which of course I dispute and discuss where possible).
I don’t want that for my child. I want my son to grow up understanding race, culture and religion, but I worry that only mixing with white British atheist/Christians, he won’t ever really develop that. I can read him books, show him videos and talk to him about it, but I’d love some support on how to do this. How do I talk to my child? What good books are there that we can start introducing him to? And will it be an issue if he never mixes with other cultures, even if I do all that I can to teach him myself? In school I remember learning all about Eid and Ramadan etc from the children who celebrated those things. He won’t get to do that, so will he be naturally less tolerant?

Why would he be less tolerant for relative lack of exposure? I was brought up in a 99pc white area with Daily Mail reading parents and I've managed to question and overthrow most of that crap (still working on it obviously)

Watchthesunrise · 13/07/2022 16:58

I once had a very worthy woman in a playground tell me she couldn't possibly send her child to the local school because it wasn't diverse enough.

I suspect her definition of diversity was there wasn't enough 'nice black children' as there are plenty of children with neurodiversity, lots of Chinese and Korean kids, a few Europeans and Americans.

georgarina · 13/07/2022 16:59

Peaceatdawn · 13/07/2022 16:49

Personally I'd focus on raising your son a feminist. Feminism, womens rights/sexual inequality is never spoken about in school whereas racism, lgbtq..., cultural diversity and religion are all spoken about all the time. Believe me your son will learn plenty on those topics when he goes to school.
Well that's my experience of having a child in school for the last 9 years.

Personally I'd focus on raising your son a feminist. Feminism, womens rights/sexual inequality is never spoken about in school whereas racism, lgbtq..., cultural diversity and religion are all spoken about all the time. Believe me your son will learn plenty on those topics when he goes to school.
Well that's my experience of having a child in school for the last 9 years.

Julystheme · 13/07/2022 17:00

I think it is a bit intense to be honest.

Books and toys … by all means, make them diverse but the primary function should be enjoyment. And a lot of them aren’t particularly well written anyway.

Watchthesunrise · 13/07/2022 17:04

I don't think she wanted her kids to learn about Chinese or Korean culture for some reason?

PreparationPreparationPrep · 13/07/2022 17:07

Yes read by all means but genuine understanding/ appreciation and tolerance of difference comes through our interactions with other people. So at his age ideally he should see this reflected in your friendships. If he can see that your friendships and relationships are diverse then surely his will follow to some extent - I say this because under the age of 8 children tend to develop friendships through nursery / school / school parents and you will be the one to facilitate this. So inevitably it is about whether you are ready to develop a genuinely diverse network of friendships and relationships for him to emulate.

georgarina · 13/07/2022 17:39

georgarina · 13/07/2022 16:59

Personally I'd focus on raising your son a feminist. Feminism, womens rights/sexual inequality is never spoken about in school whereas racism, lgbtq..., cultural diversity and religion are all spoken about all the time. Believe me your son will learn plenty on those topics when he goes to school.
Well that's my experience of having a child in school for the last 9 years.

Don't know what happened there!

MarmaladeFatkins · 26/11/2022 18:46

hoping2021 · 13/07/2022 14:41

Diverse book ideas – gender, race, sexuality, disability,

• Amazing Grace – Mary Hoffman

• Starring Grace – Mary Hoffman

• Whistle for Willie – Ezra Keats
• The Snowy Day – Ezra Keats
• More, More, More Said the Baby – Vera Williams

• Wonder – R G Palacio

• Rosie Revere, Engineer – Andrea Beaty

• Ada Twist, Scientist – Andrea Beaty

• One Family – George Shannon
• Frida Kahlo and her Animalitos – Monica Brown
• The Princess and the Pony – Kate Beaton

• Little Red – Bethan Woolvin

• Clive and his….series – Jessica Spanyol
• Fantastically Great Women who changed the world – Kate Pankhurst

• Goodnight Stories for Rebel Girls

• Freddie and the Fairy – Julia Donaldson
• The Great Big Body Book – Mary Hoffman
• Lulu Loves…stories – Anna McQuinn
• Two Mums and a Menagerie – Carolyn Robertson

• Chapatti Moon – Pippa Goodard
• My world Your World – Melanie Walsh
• I’m ready to explore my world – Anita Ganeri
• Last stop on Market Street -
Matt de la Peña and Christian Robinson
• Anna hibiscus – picture books
• No Dinner by Jessica Souhami (EYFS)

• Anna Hibiscus’ Song by Atinuke, illustrated by Lauren Tobia (EYFS)

• Grace and Family by Mary Hoffman, illustrated by Caroline Binch (KS1)

• Pattan’s Pumpkin by Chitra Soundar, illustrated by Frané Lessac (KS1)

• Mama Miti by Donna Jo Napoli, illustrated by Kadir Nelson (KS2)

• One Plastic Bag by Miranda Paul, illustrated by Elizabeth Zunon (KS2)

• Rhythm and Poetry by Karl Nova
•
Diverse Books we already have

• Ada Twist, Scientist – Andrea Beaty

• Jamaica’s Find – Juanita Havill

• Sisi and the Cassowary – Arone Raymond Meeks

• The Magic Paintbrush – Julia Donaldson

• The New Baby – (Biff & Chip)
• Toby and the Flood – Rebecca Price

• Made by Rafi – Craig Pomranz

• Wasim and the Champ – Chris Ashley

• Sanji and the Baker – Robin Tzannes

• The 108th Sheep – Ayano Imai

• The Great Race – The Story of the Chinese Zodiac – Dawn Casey

• Princess Grace – Mary Hoffman

• Ahmed and the Feather Girl – Jane Ray

• Lulu and the Duck in the Park – Hilary McKay

• The Julian Stories – Ann Cameron

• Cat out of the Bag – Irene Yates

• London Eye Mystery, by Siobhan Dowd

• Anna Hibiscus – chapter b0oks

most of these are white authors 🤣

MarmaladeFatkins · 26/11/2022 18:51

the primary school that my daughter went to got twinned with an all white primary school from a notoriously racist area on the outskirts of town. this was an exercise to help combat racism in kids. the white kids had to write a letter about what they had learnt....'i really liked the Black girls, they were nice. I was suprised, I thought they would all be angry' (an actual example). pretty gross from my point of view but I think it was deemed a success in challenging racism, by all the white school staff. maybe you could suggest something like this ......maybe leave out the letter writing part 🙄

MarmaladeFatkins · 26/11/2022 18:52

I didn't explain that well...they came to visit a few times and played sports matches

alexdgr8 · 26/11/2022 19:01

but won't your child learn about eid etc at school anyway.
i thought that was part of the curriculum, and general knowl about cultural make-up of uk.

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