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Truestar8 · 2022-07-11T12:36:58+00:00

Is being a dual citizen a position or a negative. For example, holding a British passport and a American passport? I'm thinking being a dual citizen would give more opportunities and choices in life. What are your thoughts?

PublicServicesNotTaxCuts · 11/07/2022 14:52

Fellow USA citizens living in UK & earning salary in ££ or Euros: what software do you file your returns with & how much do you pay to file each year?

BlackLambAndGreyFalcon · 11/07/2022 14:53

DH and DD are dual UK-EU. Neither of them held the EU passport before Brexit, but it's already made our lives easier by being able to go through the faster EU queue at immigration (even me with my UK passport). In the long term it's about giving DD more options as she still retains her freedom of movement rights within the EU and therefore can work or study more easily in the EU if she chooses to do so.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 11/07/2022 15:01

I think you should only be allowed to have one nationality / passport, but this is mainly because I can't automatically have multiple ones so it's not fair!

gwenneh · 11/07/2022 15:02

PublicServicesNotTaxCuts · 11/07/2022 14:52

Fellow USA citizens living in UK & earning salary in ££ or Euros: what software do you file your returns with & how much do you pay to file each year?

I don't use software, I use a tax service (Taxes for Expats) because we're over the FOIE threshold. It cost us $600 last year.

Bubblebubblebah · 11/07/2022 15:08

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 11/07/2022 15:01

I think you should only be allowed to have one nationality / passport, but this is mainly because I can't automatically have multiple ones so it's not fair!

Easy fix. Emigrate, pay crapload, do tests and voilà... PITA. That's how most people i know got theirs

gogohmm · 11/07/2022 15:09

Us dual citizenship causes tax problems, dd is dual

ChateauBelle · 11/07/2022 15:11

My dc have UK and Dutch passports. It was the first thing we did when Brexit happened. All three kids want to study or work in the EU so it’s very useful for them.

toogoodforthisworld · 11/07/2022 15:16

Im sorry I didn't get mine while I was married to my foreign (now ex) husbands - now I'd have to relinquish one nationality to get the other..

DogInATent · 11/07/2022 15:23

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 11/07/2022 15:01

I think you should only be allowed to have one nationality / passport, but this is mainly because I can't automatically have multiple ones so it's not fair!

Other people aren't allowed nice things...

I think that attitude sums up 99% of the problems with UK politics over the last decade.

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2022 15:37

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 11/07/2022 15:01

I think you should only be allowed to have one nationality / passport, but this is mainly because I can't automatically have multiple ones so it's not fair!

Yeah, nobody should have anything if you can’t have it too

Bubblebubblebah · 11/07/2022 15:39

I think that was meant as light-hearted, guys

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2022 15:41

FarFarFarAndAway · 11/07/2022 14:30

It also makes a difference how you get the nationality, so if you get it through birth, marriage or residency, so for example Spain does not allow dual citizenship if you get Spanish nationality through residency, you would have to renounce your British passport, I have a feeling Germany might be the same, you need to check depending on the status of the person and how they obtain it.

Germany only allows dual nationality with another EU nation I think. That’s why we did it Pre Brexit
We are concerned that when it’s time to renew we might have to pick one or the other

AnotherExpatKiwi · 11/07/2022 15:43

I’ve got NZ/UK/ROI which I think is pretty good. I can travel freely in Europe, Aus/NZ and UK. My kids have NZ/UK.

Bluebird21 · 11/07/2022 15:45

I’m dual UK/Australian. I think it’s very useful. I also have a long term, renewable, residency permit in a third country. My DC has all of these and is also entitled to a third passport which I’m getting round to applying for.

Who knows where you might want to live and work in the future. Choice is a good thing.

DogInATent · 11/07/2022 16:06

It also makes a difference how you get the nationality, so if you get it through birth, marriage or residency
Which countries grant nationality through marriage?

babyjellyfish · 11/07/2022 16:08

DogInATent · 11/07/2022 16:06

It also makes a difference how you get the nationality, so if you get it through birth, marriage or residency
Which countries grant nationality through marriage?

Loads. France, for example. Although it's not much easier or quicker than doing it via naturalisation if you live in France.

You can get French citizenship through marriage without ever living in France though.

babyjellyfish · 11/07/2022 16:09

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2022 15:41

Germany only allows dual nationality with another EU nation I think. That’s why we did it Pre Brexit
We are concerned that when it’s time to renew we might have to pick one or the other

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No, if you have both nationalities you're all good.

Your passport isn't the same as your nationality, it's just a proof of it.

babyjellyfish · 11/07/2022 16:11

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/07/2022 14:28

That's not true. They can do it if they suspect you may be entitled to dual citizenship. You don't have to have dual citizenship or even actually be entitled to it. As long as the British government thinks you might be, they can leave you stateless in a foreign country.

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This policy is against international law though.

I think if the affected people were able to get before the European Court of Human Rights the UK Government would be found in breach of its international human rights obligations.

Bubblebubblebah · 11/07/2022 16:14

babyjellyfish · 11/07/2022 16:08

Loads. France, for example. Although it's not much easier or quicker than doing it via naturalisation if you live in France.

You can get French citizenship through marriage without ever living in France though.

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Damn. I wish my did it for DH. DH's has it without residence too

Onlyrainbows · 11/07/2022 16:16

I get awesome health services thanks to my dual nationality, so yep I'm a fan

Coffeaddict · 11/07/2022 16:19

Depends on the country. I have Irish and UK citizenship which is handy as I have eu membership.
I m entitled to USA citizenship but have never claimed it as previously mentioned you will be liable to pay a tax to a country that you don't ( and possibly have never) reside in.

JustSmallFry · 11/07/2022 16:20

Happy to be dual - UK and EU

Panamii · 11/07/2022 17:27

There's a lot of misinformation on here. I'm a trinational with two of those being U.K./US. I earn 190k a year in the U.K. and don't get double taxed. You DO have to file every year which is a pain.

gwenneh · 11/07/2022 17:40

Panamii · 11/07/2022 17:27

There's a lot of misinformation on here. I'm a trinational with two of those being U.K./US. I earn 190k a year in the U.K. and don't get double taxed. You DO have to file every year which is a pain.

How are you getting around the foreign earned income exclusion when you exceed the threshold, then? Your income alone exceeds the household limit combined.

gwenneh · 11/07/2022 17:41

Coffeaddict · 11/07/2022 16:19

Depends on the country. I have Irish and UK citizenship which is handy as I have eu membership.
I m entitled to USA citizenship but have never claimed it as previously mentioned you will be liable to pay a tax to a country that you don't ( and possibly have never) reside in.

You may be an Accidental American -- even if you don't claim citizenship, you may have it whether you want it or not until you renounce it.