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FTE jobs paying around £35k per year

110 replies

questionthyme · 10/07/2022 18:52

If you have a job around this level of salary, how big is your role?

Do you manage people, if so how many?

Do you manage a budget, if so how much?

Is the job stressful or what is the most stressful thing about your job?

I'm wondering whether to go for a job paying this but with more responsibility and probably stress or stay at around the £25k mark but plod along and not be stressed.

Anyone else moved up or down the ladder due to these reasons??

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questionthyme · 11/07/2022 10:31

Polichinelle · 11/07/2022 09:13

That was my salary in 2007 in a technology company in the south east, managing a team of 3.

It really depends on where you are and what you do. Some industries pay badly

Sounds like tech is the way to go for the next generation.

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FeelingConcerned · 11/07/2022 10:41

35k is not a huge amount, I'd expect little to no stress for that amount. I currently earn 45k, not management, no degree, one professional qualification but that's it. I deal with clients but not in a sales environment, I don't earn commission etc but do get a yearly bonus of around £3k-5k on top.

questionthyme · 11/07/2022 10:44

FeelingConcerned · 11/07/2022 10:41

35k is not a huge amount, I'd expect little to no stress for that amount. I currently earn 45k, not management, no degree, one professional qualification but that's it. I deal with clients but not in a sales environment, I don't earn commission etc but do get a yearly bonus of around £3k-5k on top.

I think it probably isn't a huge amount but it feels like a jump to me.

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glamourousindierockandroll · 11/07/2022 10:54

*So then those jobs would have to pay competitively to attract staff, win win.

I'm 32 and when I was 24 I was earning 35k, not in London either. Having seen how low paid many are on this site it's damn well time we teach women what opportunities will come with financial reward, and that starts with removing that stiff upper lip over discussing salary (which I also see posted here a lot)*

I do agree with this. When I entered my public sector profession, the top salary band seemed maga bucks to me, and still is considered a very good wage in my part of the country.

I see now that I could have earned a lot more had I chosen a different degree, and possibly something that matches my personality better, though I do enjoy my job. As a fairly introverted (but not shy) person, I find it tiring to be communicating all day, every day and I think i'd be happy with something a bit more solitary. I had no careers guidance from school or my parents who are both factory workers and even now, they cannot fathom how I am not rolling in cash.

QforCucumber · 11/07/2022 11:00

I'm in the North East, VERY cheap housing area, DH is a supervisor in local council - £34k, Mon - Fri 8-4 no work outside of his hours, no stress.
I'm in private sector, manage 2 staff, run a payroll department, 34 hours at £28k, so would be £33k for 40 hours, again never over my hours except maybe a week or 2 in April when it's year end and things are pressured. We only have 1 friend between us who earns more than this, most are on similar or less.

We are comfortable where we are on these salaries, FT nursery, 4 bed house, holiday once a year etc - feeling a pinch with increased bills but be fine when nursery stops next year. I know for a fact this would be a completely different story anywhere else in the UK though.

alphapie · 11/07/2022 11:07

glamourousindierockandroll · 11/07/2022 10:54

*So then those jobs would have to pay competitively to attract staff, win win.

I'm 32 and when I was 24 I was earning 35k, not in London either. Having seen how low paid many are on this site it's damn well time we teach women what opportunities will come with financial reward, and that starts with removing that stiff upper lip over discussing salary (which I also see posted here a lot)*

I do agree with this. When I entered my public sector profession, the top salary band seemed maga bucks to me, and still is considered a very good wage in my part of the country.

I see now that I could have earned a lot more had I chosen a different degree, and possibly something that matches my personality better, though I do enjoy my job. As a fairly introverted (but not shy) person, I find it tiring to be communicating all day, every day and I think i'd be happy with something a bit more solitary. I had no careers guidance from school or my parents who are both factory workers and even now, they cannot fathom how I am not rolling in cash.

My parents were both very much of the view they wanted me to achieve more than they did, and they made damn sure that happened.

I got the think like a man, value yourself and ask for pay rises talk from aged 8! My dad would rather die that have me work minimum wage because I had no ambition or idea on what was achievable.

Tayegete · 11/07/2022 11:16

Really interesting thread and it has made me much more appreciative of my job. £38k public sector (not SE) no line management or budget management and other than frustration at how badly managed the organisation is really very little stress. Also wfh and limited travel. Next step up is £50k but would have line management and much more stress so it’s not very appealing. My role is classed as ‘middle management’. My DBro works in insurance and my salary is junior admin level there. Those working in stressful roles in the NHS, education, social work must feel totally sick reading this thread.

ecochiroptera · 11/07/2022 12:00

This thread is making me feel a little sad. I'm on £36k and have a PhD. I have actually left academia due to the high stress but since it is a 'passion' field (ecology and conservation) the pay is very low. I have a lot of responsibility but do not manage anyone yet.

safetyfreak · 11/07/2022 12:07

35k

Public service job, huge stress and responsbility for vulnerable clients. I have no idea what jobs let you have similar/more wage for less stress? no one tells you I noticed.

Reluctantadult · 11/07/2022 12:12

Sending solidarity from over in Natural England @ecochiroptera

Chanel05 · 11/07/2022 12:17

Although I work part-time now, my full time salary is £37,000 as a primary school teacher.

Been teaching for 9 years (started on £24k I think) and reached the top end of the scale that I'm on now 3 years ago.

Usually line manage 1 or 2 people (LSAs). A minimum of 1 subject to lead across the whole school and obviously full class attainment responsibility for 34 pupils throughout the year. It's a very busy job.

My DH is on about £50k and he is a lot less busy, hardly any stress in his job and only works 9-5. He always comments that my job is significantly more demanding than his for a lot less money.

SarahProblem · 11/07/2022 12:18

35k is a lot of money for some. I certainly felt it positively when I jumped from 25k

I've just got a promotion but my previous job was in Planning and Operations at a university in the North East @35-40k. No line management / small budgets of 100k each for various projects Some people at my level have one person to manage

Sleepyquest · 11/07/2022 12:36

I earn this. Don't currently manage anyone and don't really manage a budget either. Can be stressful sometimes when I have deadlines or when there's an internal or external audit. But I don't lose sleep over it.
I was more stressed on my £25k job due to the sheer workload and dodgy managers.

alanabennett · 11/07/2022 12:40

I work in the corporate secretarial/corporate paralegal field. I earned £35k in 2003 with no managerial or budget responsibilities.

Agree strongly with PP are: advising our kids about salary potential and not just choosing something you enjoy. FWIW, I still work in an in-house corporate paralegal role with no budget or management responsibilities and I earn approx. £105k.

questionthyme · 11/07/2022 13:44

I probably should had asked whether or. Or you had a degree as well as I don't have one so of course this limits my earnings capabilities.

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JenniferWooley · 11/07/2022 14:32

My degree is in a completely unrelated field & was, for want of a better term, a vanity project when the kids were in primary school to fill my time - I didn't even put it on my CV for my current role.

My employer is also very flexible with a big focus on family comes first. I got an extra days holiday to go to my SIL final wedding dress fitting as I'd used all annual leave, my DD went into labour a few weeks early & I was sent home to ensure that everything was organised for her getting home with baby - 3 days off work & this won't be taken off my holiday entitlement & I was paid in full for June. There's no official sick pay policy but as long as you're not taking the piss with random days here & there on a regular basis you get paid. We have a colleague who has been off for over a year after being diagnosed with a brain tumour & she has been paid in full for the duration.

But I have previously worked in a similar role at a supposed lower level for barely NMW with a lot more stress due to the workload & the sheer incompetence of the team of 8 that I was expected to default manage with no flexibility & very much a presenteeism culture - now I refuse to accept that shit.

alphapie · 11/07/2022 14:34

questionthyme · 11/07/2022 13:44

I probably should had asked whether or. Or you had a degree as well as I don't have one so of course this limits my earnings capabilities.

I don't have a degree, neither does DH. We both earn well in excess of 80k a year. Not having a degree doesn't have to limit your earning potential.

His work is a bit more stressful and less flexible than mine but still less stressful than working in retail (that's our comparison as we met at our first jobs!) so can't complain.

Onlyrainbows · 11/07/2022 14:44

£64k I don't manage anyone but I manage million pound + projects!

FeelingConcerned · 11/07/2022 15:43

questionthyme · 11/07/2022 13:44

I probably should had asked whether or. Or you had a degree as well as I don't have one so of course this limits my earnings capabilities.

@questionthyme no it doesn't!

Merryoldgoat · 11/07/2022 16:11

I earn that for about 3.5 days a week (26 hours)

I manage two staff, am fairly senior in that I report to the person who is effectively the COO and have a lot of responsibility.

Bit it’s flexible, not stressful and works well around the kids. It can certainly be busy and I have deadlines but it’s not unmanageable.

I would expect a FT job paying £35k in my sector to be varied but not stressful.

I’m a Finance Manager (no degree but Part Qual Accountant).

C8H10N4O2 · 11/07/2022 16:35

alphapie · 11/07/2022 14:34

I don't have a degree, neither does DH. We both earn well in excess of 80k a year. Not having a degree doesn't have to limit your earning potential.

His work is a bit more stressful and less flexible than mine but still less stressful than working in retail (that's our comparison as we met at our first jobs!) so can't complain.

Did you not describe DH as having been out of work for six months and struggling to find another job just three days ago?

I'm guessing you solved your BiL problem.

BirmaBrite · 11/07/2022 16:58

£31.5k which is the top of Band 5 NHS.

No overt management in my role, but shift lead, triage referrals, deal with very difficult situations on my own as a lone worker. If I get it wrong people can die.

alphapie · 11/07/2022 19:37

@C8H10N4O2 yep, he was able to start on lighter duties whilst his vetting is being done, new job is much less flexibility but the money is good.

There was some great advice on that thread which has helped immeasurably, and hopefully the vetting will be completed without the address.

C8H10N4O2 · 11/07/2022 19:52

alphapie · 11/07/2022 19:37

@C8H10N4O2 yep, he was able to start on lighter duties whilst his vetting is being done, new job is much less flexibility but the money is good.

There was some great advice on that thread which has helped immeasurably, and hopefully the vetting will be completed without the address.

Amazing. All the times I've been through the SC and DV processes or put staff through there has been no question of onboarding or contracting before clearance was confirmed.

Vetting may confirm a particular detail is not necessary for the lower levels of clearance eg BPSS but they have to confirm that before granting it. Not something which happens in three days.

If this is, as you say, an 80k+ job then he will have responsibility and accountabilities for work requiring clearance.

Vetting is currently pretty lengthy to confirm even for basic levels so its astonishing that a company would contract and onboard before work can be conducted and with no date for clearance in sight. It may also put the company at risk of compliance issues.

BirmaBrite · 11/07/2022 22:51

Sorry when I said triage, that isn't just office based, you can be out visiting patients and have direct responsibility for the entire caseload as the only qualified staff member , the referrals come directly to you via mobile phone, after a certain time, and they are usually fairly urgent. If there is no qualified cover for another area, which happens regularly, you have direct responsibility for their caseload too, so that is approx 700 people in total and you only really know half of them.
There is a lot of thinking on your feet involved, asking the right questions to figure out if they can wait until you have seen another call out or if they need to be a priority, do you see the palliative patient who is described as 'unsettled' or someone with a blocked catheter who has not passed urine for over 12 hours and is in pain ?
Does the palliative patient have medication prescribed ? have they taken a sudden turn for the worse ? What are their symptoms and what medications are going to alleviate them ? If nothing is prescribed you need to drive to the out of hours Doctors and get them to prescribe what you think they need, then collect the medications and go and administer them. Is something else going on that means they will need seeing by a Doctor/need admitting ? Are they showing symptoms of deranged bloods or an obstruction or a clot ? Is the family calling you because their loved one is having a catastrophic bleed and they understandably in their panic can't remember what they need to do, so you have to drive to them with the phone on speaker and try to calmly talk them through it until you arrive ?
Worst call ever Sad

Weirdly in my profession, this sort of responsibility seems to be diluted the further up the chain you go, the Band 6's will delegate all of the calls to Band 5's during the day, after 5 and on a weekend it is a Band 5 role ( if the the Band 6 is sick or on day off/annual leave their job is done by a Band 5, paid at the Band 5 rate ) and the Band 7's and 8's in my speciality never see a patient, ever.