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Aibu to say I don’t want to take a personality test at work

194 replies

PenelopeWhipStop · 10/07/2022 17:43

My manager has told me he intends to have us all take a personality test as part of our 1-2-1 meetings. I queried whether this was an organisational thing or his own personal decision (it’s his idea). It’s to help determine if we’re introverts or extroverts, how we learn, possible career paths.

I already know I’m an introvert! Was I being unreasonable to tell him I’m not keen for n his idea?

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/07/2022 22:21

Herejustforthisone · 11/07/2022 09:26

Quite. Imagine being a manager so unprofessional and lacking, that you bully your team into taking a test you can’t (and shouldn’t) administer and assess properly, and hinder the careers of those that don’t join in your ‘fun, team building’ exercise. I imagine they’re the sort of manager that would single out and hinder careers based on the misunderstood ‘results’, anyway.

Yep. Especially at it leaves out the most frequent personality type for middle managers who think it's really handy to be able to identify who is just like them and who gets sidelined/prejudged as not suitable for promotion - the DICK personality type.

SirChenjins · 11/07/2022 22:38

Talipesmum · 11/07/2022 16:32

When we’ve run them at work, it’s been the absolute opposite of this. The whole purpose is to understand each other better, to get better at working with people with different working styles to you, to appreciate that not everyone likes or dislikes the same thing.

And there’s never been any hint of “ah you’re type x, that means you should do job y”. It’s been much more “here are your possible strengths as a leader, here are your possible blind spots, here’s how you can best work with your opposite type”. A strong recognition that different people might do the same job in very different ways, and that that’s ok - we aren’t looking to replicate robots.

I can see how some of these tests might be used for “fitness for a role” and I would agree that’s bollocks. But “things to think about when leading or collaborating with others” and recognising we are all different and acknowledging that - it’s really powerful. But you do need a good facilitator.

But that’s the thing - they aren’t really powerful at all. They have no scientific validity and only reflect your self reported responses at one particular point in time with vague statements about your preferred styles. Have you heard of the Barnum effect?

TreePoser · 11/07/2022 22:42

I love personality types (privately) I read that one about colours a while ago. By a swedish writer whose name I cannot remember. Surrounded by Idiots.

But I'm a yellow striving to be green, at work at least, and I used to sit opposite a guy who was such a blue and only ever capable of being a blue. It helped me change the way I communicated with him. If he asked me a question I responded like a ROBOT. Facts only. No speculation.

Itdoesntreallymatter · 11/07/2022 23:01

You sound like a massive INTJ OP.

I think it is just an exercise in being aware of different personalities in your team.

Just put the opposite of what you would normally put to confuse everyone in your team. I bet you dont though because you are curious.

saraclara · 11/07/2022 23:06

I thought to myself, I'm here to "do the work" I am paid to do. My inner self is none of your business.

Exactly!!!!

SirChenjins · 11/07/2022 23:12

Itdoesntreallymatter · 11/07/2022 23:01

You sound like a massive INTJ OP.

I think it is just an exercise in being aware of different personalities in your team.

Just put the opposite of what you would normally put to confuse everyone in your team. I bet you dont though because you are curious.

If you want to really understand the different personalities in your team and how they function on an ongoing basis then there’s a really, really good way to do that without having to remember what colour Mike is or what letters Sue is based on how they randomly answered some quiz.

Speak to them. Get to know them. Ask them for their opinions and thoughts. Find out what makes them tick. It’s mind blowing stuff.

EssexSerpent · 11/07/2022 23:14

Think most decent managers already do that ^^. Problem is some team members don’t have that level of self awareness or understanding of team dynamics. This is why this stuff is rolled out.

SirChenjins · 11/07/2022 23:20

Most decent manages do and most decent team members do. Unfortunately when you don’t have decent managers leading a team they use these quizzes as crutches to shore up their lack of insight into their teams and their cover their limited communication skills.

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 11/07/2022 23:27

Itdoesntreallymatter · 11/07/2022 23:01

You sound like a massive INTJ OP.

I think it is just an exercise in being aware of different personalities in your team.

Just put the opposite of what you would normally put to confuse everyone in your team. I bet you dont though because you are curious.

Listen to yourself 🤣 You sound like one of those weird extreme Christians who insist on telling atheists they're just angry at God. People do not generally want you to impose your belief system on them, or to tell them all about how they fit inside it. And not everyone yearns to discover themselves within your faith.

MarsQueen · 11/07/2022 23:32

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saraclara · 11/07/2022 23:35

You sound like a massive INTJ OP

And it's just that sort of assumption and response that colleagues will start giving once they know people's results

"Oh that's just your INTJ coming through" ignores that person's viewpoint

StarDolphins · 11/07/2022 23:36

I’ve just done the myers Briggs test online & maybe different but some of the questions are questionable…

di you often feel overwhelmed? We’ll not as a person & never have before but currently yes!

do you like to visit museums? And other ones where my answer could be yes & no

i think it seems gimmicky

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 11/07/2022 23:49

My employer uses Predictive Index behavioural assessments. It's a load of bollocks and nobody except HR pays any attention to them. They give me candidates' results before interview but I don't even read them.

I didn't mind taking it though. It's mildly interesting in the same way a "Which cocktail best describes your sex life?" quiz in Cosmopolitan is mildly interesting.

Talipesmum · 11/07/2022 23:49

SirChenjins · 11/07/2022 22:38

But that’s the thing - they aren’t really powerful at all. They have no scientific validity and only reflect your self reported responses at one particular point in time with vague statements about your preferred styles. Have you heard of the Barnum effect?

Yes, and I haven’t ever paid the slightest heed or ever bothered with or read a horoscope in my life. It’s total bunkum. I’m a sceptical sarcastic atheist scientist. But the particular Insights thing we’ve done is not that at all. I can’t comment on any others. I’ve done it a few times over the last 20 years and I’ve had nearly the same outputs each time - same goes for nearly everyone I’ve worked with. I read mine when I first did it and thought “gosh that’s mostly very accurate but haha I bet they all say the same thing” and a few of us swapped reports and read each other’s, and they were all very different, apart from people who I know are v similar to me, and we had a number of similar things in there. Honestly, I’m not gullible like that - though I’m sure you won’t believe me! I’d say that at least 75% of people at our work find it very useful. And we are smart enough to not type cast each other, and yes we would likely get most of the way through just, you know, working with each other - but it opens up great conversations about working styles, inclusion, diversity etc.

ClumpingBambooIsALie · 12/07/2022 00:00

It's hardly impressive that if a questionnaire asks you what you're like, it can then tell you what you're like. If I ask you whether you tend to put things off, I can generate a report saying whether you're prone to procrastination and it'll fit. It's just a more complex version of that.

MrsHughesPinny · 12/07/2022 00:04

I work in the US and have had to do so many of these. Myers Briggs, DISC, Clifton Strengths Finder, Enneagram… I’ve done them all! They love them here. Just say you don’t want to do it!

Ormally · 12/07/2022 00:17

I used to loathe these with a passion (never went down the route of any graduate assessment centres as they might have used them, and now, quite a lot later, I regret that). Then I had a job where I had to act as guinea pig test subject for colleagues who I already knew, and who were training, or re-registering annually, in the proper assessment, administration, and feedback procedures.

There are many more options out there than Myers Briggs.

For types where your responses map you as where your strengths work as part of a team, it is a reasonably good tool for a team (it's really not all about you, and others should see no personal questions or achilles heels on your eventual report). Often, you see that a manager may have a habit of gathering people with very similar strengths around them, and have some big gaps where they don't deeply understand different natural styles of working, communication, etc.- therefore, that could be a weak spot in an overall team. To resist these strenuously is your prerogative, but I agree that it will probably be seen as quite anti-teamwork and anti-cooperation with the manager, which isn't a great leg to stand on.

Do they dumb down? Yes. Is it just a consequence of how you felt on the day? Yes. Better to talk to colleagues and draw out their hidden depths? Yes, but does that happen to the extent that it opens the gates of a golden future nowadays? Are they frightening? Perhaps at first but not really. Will they help you? Maybe but mostly just 'meh' - neither life changing nor destructive. There won't usually be any extremes or shocking revelations, honestly.

Ineedaduvetday · 12/07/2022 06:47

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 11/07/2022 14:44

Who said anything that trite? Because I didn't.

Yes you did.

You know the only reason they are licensed is so that someone can make money from them?

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 12/07/2022 11:50

I read mine when I first did it and thought “gosh that’s mostly very accurate but haha I bet they all say the same thing” and a few of us swapped reports and read each other’s, and they were all very different, apart from people who I know are v similar to me, and we had a number of similar things in there. Honestly, I’m not gullible like that - though I’m sure you won’t believe me!

Yeah that's exactly how horoscopes work as well. Do you believe those too?

Fairislefandango · 12/07/2022 12:01

I think you refusing to do the personality test is a more informative test of your personality than the personality test would have been.

Yes, it shows she has common sense and a good bullshit radar.

Fairislefandango · 12/07/2022 12:08

These things are so stupid and pointless. Of course they mostly 'get it right' - how could they not, when you've told them all the information?!

Dd persuaded me to try the Myers Briggs one. What an utter waste of time! I always inwardly snort when I see someone's got 'ENTP' or whatever on their social media profile. It reminds me of that scene in Friends with Phoebe's psychoanalyst boyfriend they all hate, when he says they are all like "Define me! Define me!". Surely people should be over this kind of self-obsessed 'what tribe do I belong to' bollocks once they're out of their teens?

TirisfalPumpkin · 12/07/2022 12:58

I feel like my star sign is a more accurate depiction of my workplace behaviour than my myers-Briggs result.

BTW, disagreeable people (low agreeableness on the ‘big 5’) are over represented among whistleblowers, so maybe there’s something to that one, at least.

CashewNut11 · 12/07/2022 13:12

I'm sorry I've not read the whole thread, but in my experience (over decades) I've never seen any workplace benefit to these tests.

Never seen increased personal performance, department productivity or company progression. Yes, they're momentarily interesting, but so are magazine quizzes that don't take up work time.
🙄

TheFeistyFeminist · 12/07/2022 13:29

We did something like 16Personalities (Myers Briggs) somewhere I used to work and it was one of the few things that really caught the imagination of lots of people. It gave the extroverts an understanding of what introverts bring to the table, and gave the introverts support and vocabulary to avoid getting hassled into answering things on the spot. "As an INFJ I need to go away and think about that carefully, you'll get an answer by the end of the day"