To ask what films you see differently now than when you watched them as a kid/teenager?

[Pandaparty]

We rewatched Mrs Doubtfire last night. As a kid, I was so on Daniel's side and didn't have much sympathy for Miranda (Sally Field), and couldn't warm to Stu (Pierce Brosnan) at all. Now though, I'm with Miranda all the way. She traded in a husband-child for a man who she can depend on and who loves her kids. Daniel's such a sleaze when they're at the pool too, making the women feel uncomfortable.
(I suppose our outgoing Prime Minister is a good example of people being prepared to overlook huge personal failings if someone is charismatic/"fun" enough.)
Anyway. What other films do you look at completely differently now than when you first watched them?

That wasn't a word used in drafting laws relevant to the matter under discussion.

First time you watched this you thought it was ok??

TheWrongAllmanBrother . The Sound Of Music was based on a real life story.Had a bit of the Hollywood Treatment I think! BBC article 2015 where the real Son talks about his family ,Quite interesting .

Rebel without a Cause should be renamed Rebel without a Clue. The James Dean character is whiney and entitled and really has nothing to complain about. He has a go at his dad for wearing an apron, definite no no in 1950s America. Totally see the parents view point now.

I agree with many already mentioned on this thread. I would like to add a tv show that I have always really enjoyed and I still do. However the sexism bothers me. The Big Bang Theory has quite a lot of misogynistic messages.

For example: When Sheldon had made a commitment to Amy to attend a family event he ditches on her with little notice in favour of a guys weekend of gaming.

When he is confronted by this it somehow turns into a feel sorry for Raj being single and missing hanging out with his mates without their girlfriends. And everyone including Amy accepts that as reasonable.

It’s the bros before hoes mentality. If anyone has a prior commitment to somebody else it’s not hard to say to your friend “I have a prior commitment, sorry I can’t make it that weekend. Can we make it another weekend?” That would be reasonable. But no, women should forget being treated with respect to give way to male bonding.

There are so many more examples of sexism and sexual harassment and considering that Chuck Lorre also created Two and a half men, then it’s hardly surprising.

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I always thought the bit where she attempts to eat her brother demonstrates that the illness was a bit of an issue.

No way! She bit him I think, rather than tried to eat him. I presumed she was somewhat annoyed at being locked in an attic for eleven years, often tied up. And she blamed her (step?) brother a bit for that ordeal.

Obviously being Creole she was also painted as literally beastly and sub-human."

Yes, she bit and stabbed her brother.

Mr Rochester thought that he could have been free of her sooner, if he'd housed her elsewhere, in less 'comfortable' conditions, but he couldn't bring himself to be rid of her that way.

He was lied to about his potential wife, and even her age. Though there's a lot of uncomfortable reading in how they dealt with such conditions and the language they used.

I was coming on to say Mrs Doubtfire from the thread title. Controlling man child who takes the piss out of his wife and won't pull his weight, so she breaks up with him. Yet he can't stand her moving on so he infiltrates her home and tried to break up her new relationship. And we are supposed to think he's the good guy?

Oh dear, no. He made her ill

What in Charlotte Brontë's Jane Eyre makes you think so?

We should be careful about trying to interpret what was meant by "Creole" in Jane Eyre. There are what might be hints about Bertha Rochester's ethnicity here and there, but "Creole" to describe someone from Jamaica in the 19th century doesn't by necessity mean she can't have had 100% European ethnicity. Though there were negative racist associations with being Creole even for those of European ethnicity, just because of their association with people of other races.

Pretty much all Disney films from before ... say .. 2010.

I sat down to watch Peter Pan with my 4 year old the other month. It's riddled with racism and sexism, how was it ever acceptable then let alone now?!

So i put Aladdin on instead. Good god that's even worse.

Don't get me started on Snow White and sleeping beauty being kissed without their consent and while asleep and it being dressed up as romance.

I used to love Absolutely Fabulous as a teenager and rewatched after becoming a mother and just couldn't get through it. Eddie and Patsy are so vile and abusive to Saffy.

I'm using it in the historical context of the law 🙄

You can't have drama - or comedy - in which everyone is nice to everyone. It would be neither dramatic nor funny.

Why's it funny in AbFab? Because we know that Eddie and Patsy are arseholes, and on the whole we sympathise with Saffy. So we're laughing at Eddie and Patsy because they're awful. Saffy is not the butt of the joke.

Yeah I agree about Ab Fab. It really is part of the comedy that Saffy is so bright and resigned to the fact that her mum is a loveable loon and her mum's friend isn't even worth acknowledging most of the time

Don't get me started on Snow White and sleeping beauty being kissed without their consent and while asleep and it being dressed up as romance

oh ffs will you get a grip. I really don't know if you are being genuine or trolling here.

Most Meg Ryan/Tom Cruise films. In Sleepless in Seattle she stalks him, dumps her long term boyfriend for him. And in You've got Mail, he's messaging her knowing its her and she has no idea. Made my teenage daughter watch both to point out how bad they are.
Imagine a mumsnet thread on that. "I've had to close my business down because of some businessman opening up nearby but its OK because he's been coming round with flowers whilst I'm ill and I've just discovered he's been the mystery man messaging me" I can't believe we'd all be saying how romantic, he's definitely the one for you!

The original version of Sleeping Beauty I could understand as she gives birth to twins on waking, or after waking, can't recall which!

What's your problem?

If you've got anything intelligent to add, let's hear it.

*What's your problem?

If you've got anything intelligent to add, let's hear it*

my problem is people taking pc correctness to an absurd standard. Snow White was poisoned and in a coma like state, not a normal state. His kiss woke her, it is romantic and a fairy tale. To say it goes against consent etc is just sheer bollox.

Totally, Kevin is a right little shit 😂

E.T. - saw it when it first came out and was gripped; even cried at the bit when E.T. was dying. Now I find it too boring to watch. This isn't true of other films I enjoyed in childhood - most I still like. I still can't fathom what my 10 year old self saw in E.T.

I've always seen RS&BT as being primarily a celebration of Rita and Sue's friendship/partnership. As soon as a rift develops between them, everything goes wrong for them - once they heal the breach, everything becomes right again. Bob is merely peripheral to this. It's clear at the end that, in their menage a trois with Bob, Rita and Sue will be calling the shots.

The song 'Feed the Birds' references how you only have to give kids a small amount of attention each day and it pays off in the long run i.e don't neglect them. I didn't get the reference to the workaholic dad either.

In fairness to Mrs Doubtfire which has got a fair share of not undeserved flak on this thread, the conclusion where it makes it clear SPOILERS that the parents are not getting back together was seen as refreshingly realistic at the time, rather than going for the false happy ever after finale.

Not that nice - she sees Maria as a rival early on and tries to put her down a bit, then pisses on her bonfire. She does, however, look a bit sheepish when Maria takes heart over it and leaves. She and Max are morally complex compared to most of the others, they could go either way in the film, sort of like Will & Grace's more interesting pals.
The Sound of Music is an interesting one. All the benign authority figures speak with an English accent - Maria, the Captain, the Nuns. The kids are all American. As are Max and the Baroness. And Nazi youth Rolf, who could go either way. In reality all these would have Austrian accents. The Nazis? The do get the German accents! But they don't get a song.
All this makes perfect sense while watching it. It's like Die Hard - the German terrorists could run rings around McClane by simply talking over the walkie talkies in German, but instead obligingly speak in English.