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Fine for taking kid out of school- 8 days?

271 replies

NeedToGoOut · 08/07/2022 10:41

Just got penalty notice letters for DH and I.

We only took DC out of school last month for 8 days, first ever time. I didn’t think a penalty was given unless DC is taken out for 10 days?

DC had 100% attendance outside of that and is top of year. No effect on education at all. Had assessments the week after we returned and got 97-100%!

AIBU to be a bit pissed off the school ran straight to LA to rat on us?

OP posts:
Harridance · 08/07/2022 11:04

Mongolia or tenerife, what happens if everyone decides to take their kids put of school whenever? You know yabu op

MinorWomensWhiplash1 · 08/07/2022 11:04

Yerroblemom1923 · 08/07/2022 10:54

You denied your child an education. Well done. A fine is the least of your worries, you may want to revisit your priorities....

Oh don’t be ridiculous, how dramatic.

I think you’re being a bit unreasonable OP as the schools are usually very clear on the rules which you should have checked beforehand. But I agree it’s an annoying rule.

Catfordthefifth · 08/07/2022 11:04

Harridance · 08/07/2022 11:04

Mongolia or tenerife, what happens if everyone decides to take their kids put of school whenever? You know yabu op

Literally nothing would happen.... Historically that was completely normal.

IcedOatLatte · 08/07/2022 11:06

Did you think there was a special exception for the child who is top of the year? That would make MNers pretty much immune to fines as so many parents on here know that their child is top

coffeecupsandfairylights · 08/07/2022 11:09

We only took DC out of school last month for 8 days, first ever time. I didn’t think a penalty was given unless DC is taken out for 10 days?

It doesn't matter that it's the first ever time.

The fine kicks in after they miss 10 sessions, which is five days (a session is a morning or afternoon).

And nobody "ratted on you". You chose to take DC out of school for a holiday, so now you need to face the consequences and pay the fine.

vodkaredbullgirl · 08/07/2022 11:10

Oh dear

Hoppinggreen · 08/07/2022 11:12

Stop whining and pay it.
You should have factored it into the cost of your holiday

comealongponds · 08/07/2022 11:15

YABU

you chose to go on holiday in term time, they fined you as they’re perfectly entitled to do so, suck it up, you’ve still saved money compared to going in school holidays. if you don’t want the fine, don’t go on term time holidays

Toomuchleopard · 08/07/2022 11:18

In 2020 I took my 3 kids out of school for a ski trip and got fined £360. A few weeks later they were off school for a whole term because of covid so that was pretty annoying! However I knew I would get fined when I took them out, you just have to suck it up.

SeemsSoUnfair · 08/07/2022 11:19

Well done to your dc for their marks, but maybe they would be better off in school as much as possible if they have parents that can't correctly interpret fairly basic rules or comprehend the school doesn't have a choice how to report. 🤣

Eccle80 · 08/07/2022 11:23

YABU, generally it is 10 sessions not 10 days to trigger a fine, and you must have known there was a risk of fining when school sent you a letter refusing to authorise the time of (presuming that you did tell them in advance you were taking them out of school)

Narcheska · 08/07/2022 11:24

YABU you took your child out during term time and I expected saved more than the fine is on paying for holiday etc. it’s the risk you take so no one ratted you out. It’s the just way the system works which you knew was a possibility

Fairislefandango · 08/07/2022 11:26

Your fault for not checking the rules. Either (preferably) don't take your dc out of school, or suck up the fine. Whatever your opinion of the rules is, the school was just doing its job and following them, they weren't 'ratting on you'!

Bagpuss2022 · 08/07/2022 11:26

We got our letters with fines this week for a trip we took in may one week half term one week we took DD out well worth the savings on a trip to USA
we made that choice we facing the consequences

womaninatightspot · 08/07/2022 11:27

Kids do bugger all the last week before the holidays. It's all bring a game to school and watch a movie in the afternoon. That said I do think it's nice for them to have the downtime with their friends.

I don't think a fine for a child who is doing well overall in school is beneficial, people just factor in the cost of the fines to the holiday or try and get out of it. I'm in Scotland where we don't fine though so have no skin in the game.

Bunglemom · 08/07/2022 11:28

Catfordthefifth · 08/07/2022 11:03

Don't be so ridiculous. They were off for a good year with COVID but seemingly that's absolutely fine whilst 8 days will "deny them an education"

Christ, every other generation had holidays in school term and most of us hold down a job. 8 days won't make a shit of difference if they attend the rest of the time.

Realistically fines should be given to parents who just can't be arsed sending their kids to school and keep them off for pathetic reasons, however these parents ime never get fined, there's never any consequences, but I'm sure I'll get a fine for taking ds out for five days last week even though it's had no detrimental affect whatsoever and he's had only one other day off (COVID test) this school year.

100% This!

weve just had a fine for taking my daughter out (100% attendance!) however it was acceptable for no work to be set by the school during Covid... im pissed off cus a lot of people are late every single day and never have a punishment...surely all the 10 mins every day adds up!

ilovesooty · 08/07/2022 11:32

As others have said school will be obliged to report absence figures to the LA. You made your choice and the fine is a result of that choice.

itsgettingweird · 08/07/2022 11:34

Yerroblemom1923 · 08/07/2022 10:54

You denied your child an education. Well done. A fine is the least of your worries, you may want to revisit your priorities....

Honestly 🙄

Meanwhile thousands of children who actually do have issues attending school due to send or mental health are failed daily with lack of services provided.

I wouldn't mind the fines if they actually went towards supporting children who can't attend rather than those who won't for a period.

But no - it's all about control and punishing parents.

Rosehugger · 08/07/2022 11:34

Realistically fines should be given to parents who just can't be arsed sending their kids to school and keep them off for pathetic reasons, however these parents ime never get fined, there's never any consequences, but I'm sure I'll get a fine for taking ds out for five days last week even though it's had no detrimental affect whatsoever and he's had only one other day off (COVID test) this school year.

Parents also get fined who are very much arsed about whether their children go to school, but whose DC have school based anxiety, autism, ADD or other additional needs and have massive panic attacks, run away, or have other reactions detrimental to their mental/physical health when faced with going to school. Illness is a reason for an authorised absence, anxiety is an illness, but schools are reluctant to authorise absence for it.

itsgettingweird · 08/07/2022 11:35

MaryShelley1818 · 08/07/2022 10:58

As everyone says it's 10 sessions not 10 days.
Also "ran to rat on you" What sort of adult speaks like that?
I'll be taking my 4yr old out of reception next year, I know the rules and therefore will pay the fine.

If your child is under compulsory school age check about the fine.

Catfordthefifth · 08/07/2022 11:37

Rosehugger · 08/07/2022 11:34

Realistically fines should be given to parents who just can't be arsed sending their kids to school and keep them off for pathetic reasons, however these parents ime never get fined, there's never any consequences, but I'm sure I'll get a fine for taking ds out for five days last week even though it's had no detrimental affect whatsoever and he's had only one other day off (COVID test) this school year.

Parents also get fined who are very much arsed about whether their children go to school, but whose DC have school based anxiety, autism, ADD or other additional needs and have massive panic attacks, run away, or have other reactions detrimental to their mental/physical health when faced with going to school. Illness is a reason for an authorised absence, anxiety is an illness, but schools are reluctant to authorise absence for it.

I know and I think that's bloody horrendous as well. Common sense should be applied when fining! Parents who are trying their absolute bloody best in a difficult situation should absolutely not be fined, they should be supported.

NeedToGoOut · 08/07/2022 11:38

Ok I stand corrected! 10 sessions not 10 days.

Bloody joke that we have been fined by the same LA who’s broken the law by denying my SEN DC an education for the last academic year!

OP posts:
Clymene · 08/07/2022 11:39

NeedToGoOut · 08/07/2022 10:41

Just got penalty notice letters for DH and I.

We only took DC out of school last month for 8 days, first ever time. I didn’t think a penalty was given unless DC is taken out for 10 days?

DC had 100% attendance outside of that and is top of year. No effect on education at all. Had assessments the week after we returned and got 97-100%!

AIBU to be a bit pissed off the school ran straight to LA to rat on us?

They have to. And it's 10 sessions - schools do morning and afternoon registration

Jovanka · 08/07/2022 11:39

Kids do bugger all the last week before the holidays. It's all bring a game to school and watch a movie in the afternoon.

That depends on the age of the children. My DCs are doing GCSE content right up till the bitter end last day.

Frazzled2207 · 08/07/2022 11:42

I’d just pay it and forget about it.

yabu to complain but i don’t think yabu to do it, as long as you accept the consequences. Schools are just following the rules they don’t necessarily agree with them.

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