Abortion banned in order to try to increase birth rate of white babies...

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I saw this, not sure what to make of it:

Apparently 60% of abortions are to white mothers*. The theory, for those who worry about the preservation of the white population (hmm), is that if these are reduced the white population can maybe protect itself from ever becoming a minority. It sounds crazy but it's made me wonder.

*not sure if they have considered the father's race in this statistic.

I think the right to abortion has been banned because women are still seen as breeders, its rooted in misogyny, but now wonder if so called 'preservation of the white race' is also a factor.

My opinion is that it is to create more American babies ( of any colour) in order to keep up with faster growing countries like India, China, Brazil etc.
And also a concern for an ageing population as well as control over females ( of all colours) generally

I was going to mention replacement theory. I don't think there is any truth to it and certainly don't think fewer abortions is going to preserve white power. I do think some right wing conservatives and white evangelicals in the US do believe it.

It's much more likely that white women on the whole will have more access to abortion than an average black woman for economic reasons, so the euphoria is miss-placed at best.

Idiots will jump on any agenda to claim a success for themselves and get their views (on anything) heard. Much as I disagree with the ruling on Roe, I don't think that the Supreme Court judges considered this aspect one little bit. And I doubt the right wing are actually that intelligent to conceive of such a complex strategy.

I'd also point out that there is currently a right wing British organisation campaigning to stop "us" being overrun in the next few decades. Idiocy is universal and not confined to the USA.

OP you mean women, not mothers. Language matters

Some facts... erlc.com/resource-library/articles/the-demographics-of-abortion-in-america/

Not necessarily. Actually the demographics available suggest that many people seeking abortions are already mothers. Language matters. So does not making assumptions?

I checked it out when I first heard this theory about white women and it wasn't hard to find the data supporting the opposite, that black women have more abortions.

I don't think it's a race issue, for once. I think it's "just" an anti-women issue. The idea that any woman can decide something that a men can't is too much for many to handle. For many it's deep seated misogyny.

"If men got pregnant then there'd be abortions at McDonald's" is the saying, but only because the idea of limiting men's decision-making rights would be seen as abhorrent.

It strikes me that there is a hell of a lot of effort going in to stoke racial tensions.

Coincidentally I’m sure at a time of war, when tensions are increasing between western nations and a nation that has a known history of involvement in social media, specifically to play with western politics.

Im not trying to ignore the issue of American racial tensions, but they are not our tensions. Plus the point that 4 times more black women have abortions should throw this conspiracy theory out in any rational mind.

They won;t by any stretch all be, so calling ALL of them mothers as if pregnancy confers that title is wrong. So yes, language matters and you are wrong in yours.

Of course it could also just be bored people playing games. I hope MN are alert.

Apparently 60% of abortions are to white mothers

Gosh! Guess what percentage of the population of this country (the US) is white? Go on, have a guess!

It’s 60%.

So 60% of people seeking an abortion being white is not anything unusual. Nothing to read into that at all. People are looking for stories that just aren’t there.

That was Representative Mary Miller and she stumbled on her words. The text on the notes in front of her was “victory for right to life”.

Not a supporter of hers. But lets not twist things.

Some are, but I will say that a lot of that is driven by the idiot Democrats and their stupid messaging..

For some 20 years now the Dems have constantly been talking about how whites will become a minority due to immigration and a higher birthrate among blacks and Hispanics - and that this is a great thing because those groups are more likely to vote Democrat and so it will mean that the Republicans will no longer have any chance to win.

When they talk about it that way do they not expect that they are basically posing racial groupings as a political threat to Republicans? Or do they not expect that some people might see that idea as being behind their immigration policies?

Replacement theory is basically the same thing from a different perspective.

I suspect the Dems may be hoist by their own petard in the end because I think there is going to be a kind of red wall type breakout with Hispanic and then black voters in the next 15 years if something doesn't change significantly.

But in the meantime complaining when voters take their rhetoric seriously is seriously lacking in self-awareness.

It wouldn't make sense. White women are more likely to have the resources to get an abortion (travelling, money etc) So we'll probably end up with a greater proportion of aborted fetuses being white than we do now. And the women who won't be able to abort will be the ones least able to support their children on the whole, again increasing reliance on the state. It makes no sense from either a white supremacist POV or from a 'women just have kids to go on welfare' POV. So seems an anti-Republican decision in the those ways. But how much real logic over identity was behind the judgement?

The instigator of the overturn of abortion was Clarence Thomas who is not white. And it looks like he is targeting contraception next: www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/
What a vile person1

His wife was involved in Trump’s coup attempt too. Awful family.

She “stumbled on her words”. Lmao, lord give me strength that was some Freudian slip.

You'd be hard pressed to find any topic that is not compounded by racial tensions in the US.

It doesn't have to be sensible or logical for white supremacist organizations to be anti choice. For whatever reasons, most are.

As far as the numbers go, rates and totals are two different things. Even if Black women have a higher rate of abortions, they are so outnumbered by white women that the outcomes don't compare.

One thing about the US that you have to remember is that we have privatized most of what would be government social services in UK. Prisons, low income housing, most higher education, medical services etc. The next big one will be public education. There's a lot of money to be made.