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My 9 year old DS told me today that sugar makes him feel he can't control himself

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Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 19:34

He described it as once he's had sugar, it's like having lots of bricks weighing down the side of him that is behaving annoyingly and the more he behaves like that, the harder it is to bring himself back from it. He says it makes him behave impulsively and do annoying things. In his words, he knows when he is doing things that are annoying to his friends, but he can't stop.

I'm not sure if he's saying this to appease me when I talk to him about his behaviour, or if he really is experiencing situations where he's unable to control his impulses. He does have trouble focussing / concentrating on school work, Lego instructions etc for lower periods of time.

I think he may have (mild) attention deficit disorder. School don't think so - they think he is sometimes immature / silly in class to impress his peer group. I'm not so sure. He frequently annoys his two siblings (one older and one younger brother).

Some days I do think sugar can has a detrimental effect on him - but not in small amounts. I see it when he has large quantities (at parties, Christmas, etc). I also notice he seems pale and washed out the day after, almost like a come down/withdrawal.

He has mild dyslexia and was late to talk, read. Has always seemed quite young for his age. He has 'big' emotions. - quick to feel frustration and anger. He also is enormously loyal and loving.

I'm not sure whether to have an assessment. Other than medication, what would it tell us/how could we help?

I am keen to learn more, hopefully find ways we can mitigate his annoying behaviour towards his friends (it's losing him friendships and affecting his self esteem).

We've just bought a trampoline which he loves and I've upped his exercise. We are going to embark on a week long sugar free diet and see if that makes a difference. Just bought some VegEPA to try him on. Really interested to hear other's experiences and advice on what could help. And does this sound like ADD/ADHD

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FlyingGoose · 02/07/2022 19:54

The sugar high thing is a myth. It sounds more likely he is struggling to control himself and each experience heightens his mood and makes it hard to stop (ADD/ADHD) or potentially ASD. There is a lot of overlap (with dyslexia as well) that said, if he doesnt exhibit any behaviours in school he may be playing you. However, he could be displaying behaviours in school but they are subtle and not picked up on. I would say trust your gut on this one.

Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 19:57

His behaviour is the same at school - in the playground and sometimes in lessons. School have said if there is some ADHD they would think it's mild. I can clearly see he struggles to control himself sometimes.

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wildseas · 02/07/2022 20:00

When I was a child I was allergic to artificial colourings which gave me adhd type behaviour. His first paragraph is exactly how I felt.

when he’s saying sugar is he meaning anything with sugar in eg fruit? Or is he meaning sweets / fizzy drinks?

LPVA · 02/07/2022 20:05

I have a child with ADHD (diagnosed & medicated) who is hugely affected by food intake. It turns out they also had anaemia. Read up on masking adhd - your son might be doing this at school hence not noticed by teachers. Have a look at ADD magazine online. Tons of helpful / useful info. Good luck.

itsgettingweird · 02/07/2022 20:07

Also have a look at sensory processing.

But no the sugar thing isn't a myth as such. Some people can't tolerate high sugars in carbs etc either and when they get that crash afterwards that could be when he feels the need to move etc as hell feel very tired.

Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 20:07

He's referring to having refined sugar - as in cakes, sweets and chocolate. Today he was having a great day, really great behaviour and then he had a chunky KitKat and some chocolate cake and everything changed.

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Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 20:11

I have read up on anaemia in the past actually because he has symptoms that I think could point to it. We buy Floradix but he doesn't take it every day.

He is sometimes pale and lacking in energy. Is smaller in height/strength than my other sons. He has stomach aches and for quite a few years had very pale stools. We saw a paediatric gastroenterologist when he was 3-4 years old and they only found he was low in Vitamin D. We are seeing another gastro next week.

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itsgettingweird · 02/07/2022 20:21

Has he been tested for coeliacs.

The paleness could be that and it could be why cakes etc set him off.

As an aside my ds is autistic and he'd often be pale some days. I think it was the result of how life overwhelmed him. He's 17 now and still looks extremely pale a few hours into social events!

MeMe3Spoons · 02/07/2022 20:21

Even as an adult I experience exactly what your DS is describing, he sounds impressively self aware and insightful, it's brilliant that he has been able to verbalise his feelings to you. If I eat something sugary I become silly, loud and annoying - I know I am doing it and struggle to control myself. Once it wears off I feel shaky and very embarrassed of my behaviour. It has happened at work a couple of times so I make sure not to indulge in office cakes and biscuits now. It can also happen with caffeine and I am very sensitive to alcohol and get drunk very easily. I guess some of us are more sensitive to these things than others.

Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 20:33

He has not been tested for coeliacs but I will flag this to the paed gastro we are seeing soon. He is like two different children sometimes - he can be the most thoughtful, caring and loving of my kids one minute, and half an hour later could be shouting the house down and really digging his heels in about something or shouting because he's super frustrated.

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cottagegardenflower · 02/07/2022 20:35

Sugar is a bit of a myth. Artificial colours and chemicals can cause behavioural problems.

KrisAkabusi · 02/07/2022 20:37

Cobaltsea · 02/07/2022 20:07

He's referring to having refined sugar - as in cakes, sweets and chocolate. Today he was having a great day, really great behaviour and then he had a chunky KitKat and some chocolate cake and everything changed.

You need to look at if it changes because he's given himself an excuse. He thinks he has a better chance of getting away with it because he's had sugar so that will excuse it.

Studies have been done where kids and parents were told the child had been given sugar, and all reported increased activity and bad behaviour. But they hadn't, it was just a placebo. So sugar itself isn't necessarily doing anything.

ElizaJones · 02/07/2022 20:40

wildseas · 02/07/2022 20:00

When I was a child I was allergic to artificial colourings which gave me adhd type behaviour. His first paragraph is exactly how I felt.

when he’s saying sugar is he meaning anything with sugar in eg fruit? Or is he meaning sweets / fizzy drinks?

My DS is exactly the same with an article colour in squash.

myplace · 02/07/2022 20:56

Some people do seem to manage blood sugar levels badly.
They may need to eat more regularly and get bad tempered- and also get past feeling hungry- if they miss a meal, as well as that grey crash after a sugar dump.

One way to manage it is to add something slow burn in with fast sugars. So protein or fat, or complex carbs, so that when the sugar's been stripped from the blood and stored, there is still more being gradually released from the food.

Cascais · 02/07/2022 20:58

Sugar is poison

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