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Probably BU but need to rant

11 replies

Womeninthesequel · 02/07/2022 12:25

Prepared to get an utter panning here, but I need to vent somewhere so I can continue to be supportive in real life.

I have a friend with 5 kids, 15 down to 3. All with the same guy (who makes good money and is v hands on from what I can tell), all singles, all planned. She always wanted a huge family and often talks about how sad she is that her DH doesn't want any more kids.

The issue I'm having is that she complains, nonstop, about how hard it is to have so many children. They all need taking places all the time, food is expensive, clothes are expensive, she doesn't have any free time (she doesn't work and they're all at school/nursery), she's always doing laundry or cooking, etc etc etc. And I get that it's hard, of course it is, but she chose this! Anyone could tell you that having 5 kids is expensive and time-consuming!

She literally never has a positive thing to say about anything to do with her family. Before anyone suggests she's depressed, I really don't think that's the case, she just loves a whinge. She's said that herself.

I could put up with that, because she's a great friend otherwise, but since her 5th kid was born it's got massively worse, and if I ever try to talk about my own struggles with my kids, she tells me that I've got it easy and it's so much harder with 5. Obviously it's harder with 5! That's why I only had 2! It doesn't mean that it isn't difficult for me to be up all night with a baby and then chasing a toddler all day. Everything seems to be a race to the bottom and every time she opens her mouth I just want to say "well why did you have so many kids then? What did you think was going to happen!?"

Final straw today was when a friend of ours was discussing her decision to only have 2 kids, and she said how sad she thought it was, and how much of a blessing and a joy having a big family is. I have literally never heard her say one positive word about her big family prior to that sentence, and we've spoken every week for two decades.

I'm sure I sound like a bitch and maybe I am, but honestly I'm so fed up of it. I know people will say "why are you friends with her it doesn't sound like you like her very much" and I get that, but I do like her a lot, and we have a lot of shared history, but this has crept up in the last few years and I'm finding it tough. I'm usually very patient and understanding but I've reached the "you've made your bed now lie in it" point here. 5 kids is a lot of kids. That's why most people don't have that many. It's like voting Tory and then complaining about the NHS! I'm biting my tongue so hard it's bleeding (metaphorically) - what did she expect?!

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LittlestBaoBun · 02/07/2022 12:31

At one point in my life, I was a parent in a blended family and we had five permanently resident with us, between us.

All close in age.

I actually preferred it! Yes, when arguments happen it's loud, but the rest of the time they play with each other. Played nicely at the beach. Always others to chat to.

Extra expense, cleaning etc but we managed super well. And got them involved with the housework.

My two are hard work because they're both autistic and one has really severe ADHD, so bad he doesn't even remember to look after himself.

But when there were five, it worked. It was a team.

I'd be pissed off with your friend too. She chose her lot. Your lot is no better or worse than hers because it's yours not hers and its two different families with different everything.

SeaToSki · 02/07/2022 12:35

Do you think you could say to her

I am finding it hard to listen to your negative comments about your family. Can we talk about something else? Maybe she doesnt realise how much she goes on and you are the person she vents to? It doesnt mean that its ok though.

ThreeLittleDots · 02/07/2022 12:38

It's not nice when a friend is self-centred, no matter what the topic. It sounds like she's not supportive of you so I'd reduce contact.

Womeninthesequel · 02/07/2022 12:41

SeaToSki · 02/07/2022 12:35

Do you think you could say to her

I am finding it hard to listen to your negative comments about your family. Can we talk about something else? Maybe she doesnt realise how much she goes on and you are the person she vents to? It doesnt mean that its ok though.

Use my words like a reasonable adult rather than bitching anonymously online?! ...probably should, yeah. She probably would take it reasonably well, too!

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DifficultBloodyWoman · 02/07/2022 12:42

YANBU!

I have a family member like this (but she has four children, not five). You would seriously think she is the only woman in the world to have four children to hear her talk. And (hoiking up my judgy pants now) she puts them in after school care and complains about the cost even though she doesn’t work!!!

NoSquirrels · 02/07/2022 12:42

Stop biting your tongue! Pull her up on the ‘sad’ comments about small families - that’s well out of order. Point out to her that 5 children was her choice so of course it’s harder than having only 2, but you’re knackered and think she could try some empathy for a change.

I honestly don’t know why you wouldn’t speak up when she says stuff like that.

wonderstuff · 02/07/2022 12:46

It’s like people who complain about not having money because they spend it on extravagant holidays, or people people complaining about how difficult it is to park their massive car.. sounds exhausting, YANBU.

Meraas · 02/07/2022 12:49

She sounds very selfish. Just take a step back and let her crack on.

If she would take it well, just tell her.

it all sounds miserable.

WanderingFruitWonderer · 02/07/2022 13:24

YANBU at all. She sounds a bit confused!
In your position, I'd find her two children comments hurtful.
Anyway, aside from all your points in your OP, having five children is extremely irresponsible in terms of overpopulation and the climate crisis. You've been much more responsible in stopping at two.

SaltySalad · 02/07/2022 13:30

Honestly I don’t know how you can stand it, I couldn’t. Can’t bear incessant or competitive misery.

I knew someone very much like the one you describe, she only complained, kept having children then refusing to look after them. The house was a pigsty, the children whined and complained, the mother whined and complained chronically, the parents argued all the time, and then they went on to have another. If that isn’t fucked I don’t know what is.

Hellodarknessmyoldpal · 02/07/2022 13:40

I hate this weird race to the bottom thing that happens with parenting. In reality every family has it's own unique dyamic (roles of parents, strengths and struggles of parents, wider family support, personality and/or needs of specific children etc). noone can say things are easier or harder but we can sympathise objectively.

However choosing to have 5 kids and then complaining that her life if hard because she had 5 kids is stupid and must be annoying to listen to. 😂 and the comment about being sad for people who decide to have 2 🤦🏻‍♀️

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