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Friend is fishing for compliments all the time - annoying!!!

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Balloonpopper · 02/07/2022 10:17

I feel awful for starting this thread but I need to have a bit of a moan! I’m starting to find my friend increasingly annoying and not sure how to approach it.

The first major problem is the constant need to validation. Friend knows full well she’s slim (posts pictures of herself in bikinis, short dresses etc) and posts pictures of her scale reading on social media. I think everyone should be comfortable in their skin and empowered etc However, in the same breath she’ll also say how much of a whale she is, and how she needs to lose x amount of weight. She’s 5 ft 3 and weighs about 8.5 stone? Although I’m not 100% certain as I’m not in her head, I really do not think this is an ED. I honestly think she just wants people to fawn over her.

Pretty much every conversation is about weight and her fishing for compliments. I used to think “being nice is free, give her the validation she needs” but it’s starting to become a pisstake. It’s becoming mentally draining listening to the constant fat bashing (she constantly rips into her DH’s family members who are overweight, saying some really nasty things about them). I’m not the slimmest, so I think maybe it’s bothering me because of my own insecurities. But it does make me think “well what do you think of me?”. I have pulled her up on it a few times when she’s saying how she looks like so big - I’ll say something like “I’m twice your size, if you’re big then I must be massive?”. She’ll then backtrack and say that I’m lovely.
I just don’t understand why she feels the need to message me about it all of the time? It seems like she’s going out of her way to get attention. As an example, she’ll put something on social media saying how she needs to tone up and lose weight, but then she’ll send me the same thing via message.

it’s not just weight, she’ll also humblebrag about everything, her child, her house, her car???!
Her child is a dancer, and in her eyes the best dancer in the world. But she’ll then mock other children who dance and say they’re rubbish. Even going as far enough as to message the parents of these children and say things like “my DD was doing that 5 years ago”, or “I don’t think your DC is quite ready yet”. She finds this behaviour funny too.

I think it’s hard for me to understand as I’m quite a modest person and I don’t really need external validation from people, and I’d feel so awkward fishing for compliments so obviously!

Another thing she does is complain about one thing to me, and then when I ask her a question to get a bit more information she’ll ignore the question and carry on complaining. It’s frustrating because I’m trying to help, but it comes across like she doesn’t want help/support but wants to be a martyr? I will give some genuinely good advice (along with listening to her rant) but she’ll bring the same problem up the next day, so clearly hasn’t done anything to try and resolve it.

the strangest thing is that she’s a qualified psychologist, so I’m really surprised that she doesn’t see that she’s displaying narcissistic (?) and attention seeking behaviour. Meanwhile she’s more than happy to secretly analyse other people on social media/her personal life and ‘diagnose’ them.

I hate sounding like a bitch and feel like a horrible person for complaining about my friend, but I’d rather do it on here than talk about her to someone in “real life”.

AIBU for getting increasingly frustrated with her behaviour?

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ComfyChairPose · 02/07/2022 11:10

That does sound really boring! And from a psychologist too!

That's not somebody who gives therapy right? But she would have a higher than average understanding of what it means to be excessively body conscious!

If you really are done with the friendship and don't care how awkward things get (cos you're going to check out of the awkwardness rather than ride it out) I'd say something to her, say ''I'm surprised you're so body conscious and so in need of validation and you, a psychologist! what hope is there for a 22 year old influencer.'

she'd be angry, at first.

MumsOnTheNetty · 02/07/2022 11:10

I feel for you, this sounds like a really difficult friendship. I wonder, though, as your friend is a qualified psychologist, whether she is in a whole world of pain. She must know what she is doing but it sounds like she has lost control to her behaviours. Not your problem obviously! But if you did want to continue the relationship you could try handing her projections back to her. For example, “what’s the worst that would happen if… you were overweight?… your child wasn’t a great dancer?”. It make make her stop and think for a moment.

Also, is she a practising psychologist? Because some of those social media posts might breach the psychologists code of ethics and she would need to take that in to consideration.

PerpetualStudent · 02/07/2022 11:11

I broke it off with a ‘legacy friend’ (great term) about 2 years ago after things had gone sour and it was so liberating - I never looked back. You aren’t obliged to have this person in your life OP

BashfulClam · 02/07/2022 11:14

I’d change the subject every time. ‘I’m so huge I put on a half pound blah blah…’ ‘oh did you see Zara has a sale on, lovely stuff!’ Or ‘the weather is terrible I hope this rain stop soon’

ChicCroissant · 02/07/2022 11:15

This is so draining to deal with, I think I'd be stepping back for a while. She sounds very needy, and it's unlikely that she'll admit it is her own behaviour.

We had an issue in work once with an over-sharing drama queen, who spent every possible minute talking about herself and her issues to everyone, and then got huffy and accused the staff of gossiping about her. The (lovely) staff couldn't get a word in edgeways and there was absolutely zero recognition that it was all her own work.

Rodneytrotterslovechild · 02/07/2022 11:17

I had a mate who’s the same but with her she thinks that every single bloke on this planet fancies her
(she’s single)
we would be walking down the street and some bloke would glance at us and he’d fancy her
a bloke would ask her to move as he was trying to get past-he’d fancy her
a bloke smiled at her-he fancied her
its draining-I ended up blaming work shifts for not having the time to meet with her and am letting the friendship slide a bit (we talk via text)

it’s a crushing lack of self esteem with her-her last fella left her for another woman,he then found the grass wasn’t greener and is trying his luck with her again
i think it’s her way of trying to think of herself as a sexy woman who still has it

Kanaloa · 02/07/2022 11:17

She sounds like a truly horrible person. I couldn’t imagine sitting at a kid’s activity and gloating that another child was less advanced than my own. If I heard a friend say that I would immediately say ‘why are you laughing? You sound horrible and nasty, I’d be embarrassed to think that.’ And then I’d seriously think about cutting them out of my life because they have a nasty mean attitude - and if they’re talking about others to you they’re likely talking about you to others. If they’re busy slagging off overweight people to you what do you think they’re saying about you? I’d step back for those reasons rather than the compliment fishing which is really just irritating rather than malicious.

The compliment fishing I do get from one friend. I just don’t respond definitely if that makes sense. She’s terrible for the ‘ooooh no I shouldn’t, no I can’t’ when we’re about to have something nice to eat, but now I just say ‘oh okay well I’m having one anyway!’ And if she says the ‘I need to lose weight’ I just say ‘oh really?’ I don’t buy into repetitive conversations of oh I’m too big, no you’re not you’re perfect blah blah. It’s boring and unhelpful.

YouCantSpellAmericaWithoutErica · 02/07/2022 11:25

In the first part of your OP I figured “annoying and dull that she constantly seeks validation, poor thing sounds so insecure”. But then the rest of it… contacting parents of other children to tell them their kid is crap at dance… why would you want to be friends with such a massive dickhead?

Overtired201984 · 02/07/2022 11:33

I could have written this myself , exact same scenario with friend especially the weight , I was the bigger one .

i couldn’t deal with her any longer , haven’t spoken to her in a year best decision I made .

If people don’t know they are being attention seekers at this age and making someone else feel shit about themselves , they will never know .

balalake · 02/07/2022 11:36

Some friendships end, run their course. Perhaps this is one.

Antares444 · 02/07/2022 11:37

She sounds like a very insecure person that needs constant validation and feels better when criticizing others. The type of friend I would never want in my life. She uses you to feel better about herself. I’m not tolerant with such people but it depends on how close you both are. You need to weigh the pros and cons of her friendship. Does she bring anything good to your life? Is she there for you?

shiningstar2 · 02/07/2022 11:39

There are people around who like to have a fat friend because it makes them feel more attractive themselves. They think that if they go out with someone bigger all the attention will be on them. When the fat friend starts a diet they are all encouragement at first, but when the friend sticks to it and they are getting results ... wow ...they go nuclear in their attempts to disrupt the new look friend. You meet up, you've already eaten but it's ....oh come on...a few chips can't hurt ...don't be a spoil sport let's go to the chippy. Of course they haven't eaten anything all day so of course the chops don't matter to them but ...oh dear ...the struggling friend is taken right off course 🤔
And where are all the compliments for newly slim fat friend? The compliments she was continually dishing out to gorgeous insecure mate? Once fat friend is becoming gorgeous friend it's oh you are too gaunt ...you need to loosen up. Why are you always at the gym?
You really find out who your friends are. Real friends are delighted for you ...others ...not so much.
My point is don't feed these people. Do your own thing, look after your own physical and mental health and appreciate the real friends you've got 💐

AngelinaFibres · 02/07/2022 11:40

NoSquirrels · 02/07/2022 10:53

a qualified psychologist
Unfortunately, this tends to mean fuck all.
She sounds obsessed by weight and appearance and quite unpleasant. I’d have to tell her it’s not cool. Much more bluntly than you have.

My father was a Principal Ed Psych. He was the most un self aware person I have ever known. Massively insecure, controlling, judgey and an enormous snob. When I had post natal depression he told me " Only losers take anti depressants" and that people in our family were not the personality type to suffer from mental health issues. He had so many issues and my childhood was weirdly insular . A good friend once said to me " I'm surprised you are as sane as you are." Being a psychologist means nothing.
Friendships of longstanding have sometimes run their course. If seeing her isn't supportive and easy and doesn't make you feel better than before you met then it's time to call it a day.

Antares444 · 02/07/2022 11:40

Rodneytrotterslovechild · 02/07/2022 11:17

I had a mate who’s the same but with her she thinks that every single bloke on this planet fancies her
(she’s single)
we would be walking down the street and some bloke would glance at us and he’d fancy her
a bloke would ask her to move as he was trying to get past-he’d fancy her
a bloke smiled at her-he fancied her
its draining-I ended up blaming work shifts for not having the time to meet with her and am letting the friendship slide a bit (we talk via text)

it’s a crushing lack of self esteem with her-her last fella left her for another woman,he then found the grass wasn’t greener and is trying his luck with her again
i think it’s her way of trying to think of herself as a sexy woman who still has it

Omg, I had a friend like that when I was younger!! She believed that the whole male population in thr city was in love with her 😄

Antares444 · 02/07/2022 11:46

shiningstar2 · 02/07/2022 11:39

There are people around who like to have a fat friend because it makes them feel more attractive themselves. They think that if they go out with someone bigger all the attention will be on them. When the fat friend starts a diet they are all encouragement at first, but when the friend sticks to it and they are getting results ... wow ...they go nuclear in their attempts to disrupt the new look friend. You meet up, you've already eaten but it's ....oh come on...a few chips can't hurt ...don't be a spoil sport let's go to the chippy. Of course they haven't eaten anything all day so of course the chops don't matter to them but ...oh dear ...the struggling friend is taken right off course 🤔
And where are all the compliments for newly slim fat friend? The compliments she was continually dishing out to gorgeous insecure mate? Once fat friend is becoming gorgeous friend it's oh you are too gaunt ...you need to loosen up. Why are you always at the gym?
You really find out who your friends are. Real friends are delighted for you ...others ...not so much.
My point is don't feed these people. Do your own thing, look after your own physical and mental health and appreciate the real friends you've got 💐

I had a friend in the past that hated pretty women and always wanted to be the most attractive person in the room. As soon as a beautiful coworker joined us for lunch she would suddenly feel sick or try to get all the attention. She loved hanging out with me because I’m average looking while she looks like a model and is 11 years younger. Until the most coveted bachelor in the office asked her about me😄😄😄 She was sooo mad and our “friendship” suddenly ended. I bet she never expected that someone that looks like me could be the object of interest of a handsome, much younger man and that this man ignored her advances completely😄 She never spoke to me again.

Meraas · 02/07/2022 11:47

@Antares444 please tell me you dated him? 😀

OnaBegonia · 02/07/2022 12:01

I'm aghast she messages other ppl about their DC to criticise them, not just cruel but unhinged, she's vile.

vivainsomnia · 02/07/2022 12:02

She's a psychologist? Help us!

If she is, then she should done many sessions herself and you should be able to be honest with her with her reflecting on what you said rather than turning defensive.

Antares444 · 02/07/2022 12:02

Meraas · 02/07/2022 11:47

@Antares444 please tell me you dated him? 😀

No, I’m married 😄 But we became best friends 😊

Vikinga · 02/07/2022 12:09

I've got a friend like that and it is cringy. When she lost weight, she used to send me pics of her in her underwear and ask me to touch her butt to feel how toned it was. She's got 2 girls (who are lovely) but goes on about how brilliant they are and how great they get on. Even when I'm talking about mine fighting or issues, it feels a bit... and she will ask her eldest daughter to play her musical instrument for us.

I'm super proud of my kids but the only people I would be like that with are my parents because they like it. Even my siblings aren't that interested in my kids.

And my friend isn't really interested in other kids either. She's got some great qualities but it is cringy when she's like this.

AgentMagenta · 02/07/2022 12:13

I'd like to second what PP Woman StanleyWoman2 said:

Given that you have known each other so long, I’d be tempted to either bluntly call out her behaviour, or call her bluff - so if she starts the whole ‘Oh my God, I look huuuuge today’ routine, respond with ‘It’s not that bad; you’ve only put a few pounds on’. It might horrify her into not fishing for compliments anymore

If she throws a self-depreciating comment at you and in return gets the exact opposite of what she's looking for, she will almost certainly stop. I think it's a better strategy than simply changing the subject or ignoring her. She'll probably either just as simply change it back or re-insert herself as the main topic of conversation.

Provenceinthesummer · 02/07/2022 12:21

It is chronic insecurity.
Overlooked as a child, or spoilt rotten. It will be one or the other.

If she doesn’t have the awareness to know what she is being like, in her line of work, then are may never change op.

I have a friend like this, she basically uses our time together to either brag or garner praise and adulation. I cut out the compliments altogether just as pp said, and I could see clearly she no longer enjoyed our lunches quite as much as she was not getting the validation she was seeking so there was ‘nothing’ in it for her. It was as simple as that. She came purely for an ego boost not for companionship. I reduced the time we meet up to a few times a year in the vain hope that now she is a grandmother she will stop. Nope now it’s bragging about her genius GC!

Any time I have been somewhere amazing, share achievements and talk about my stuff she couldn’t look more bored. I am sick of being the second class sidekick in the xx show so I am
not sure i am in a rush to keep seeing her. So I understand op!

Littlemissweepy · 02/07/2022 12:23

“Not this again. Sorry but I can’t keep having this same conversation”

I had a friend like this, she’s mellowed with age thank god, but when we were late teens she was going on about these tiny pin head spots on her nose that you needed a microscope to see in front of one friend suffering quite bad acne who was clearly feeling very uncomfortable. Mutual friend just said “get a grip love” and the rest of us wish we’d had the balls to say similar.

Provenceinthesummer · 02/07/2022 12:32

Love it! Get a grip love sounds the perfect antidote 😂

ShandaLear · 02/07/2022 12:35

Are you sure she’s a properly qualified psychologist? I’d expect her to give more insight into her own behaviour. You could have a chat with her. Then next time she messages about her weight say something like, “I’m really concerned about your mental health. You appear to be obsessed with your weight and are constantly comparing yourself to others. That’s really unhealthy as you know better than anyone. You’re also rude about other peoples kids all the time. This really isn’t like you. Are you ok?”