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Bullshitters- who do you think you're kidding?

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TooManyAnimals94 · 01/07/2022 20:47

Genuinely confused by this phenomenon. You know the people I'm talking about. They make stuff up that is obviously completely untrue and just expect you to nod along. If you point out their bullshit they backtrack at a billion miles an hour and make up a new story?!
Thread prompted by someone I have to work with sometimes and I left work today with full on bite marks in my tongue so I didn't tell her what I think of her and cause a whole scene.
As an example. I brought in scones for us at tea break. She tells this hugely dramatic story about how she's allergic to cream and she nearly died from having a hot chocolate with cream on 🙄
So, even though I found this story highly unlikely, I made sure we had separate knives for jam and cream. Me being messy, I managed to get cream on the jam knife so I was like wait! Don't use that, I'll get a fresh one. So she says 'Oh, just a bit on the knife is fine, don't worry'.

WHAT? YOU LITERALLY JUST SAID THE TINY AMOUNT OF CREAM ON A HOT CHOCOLATE NEARLY KILLED YOU??

Now I've read that back it seems like I'm being dramatic but it's just constant from the minute she gets there till she leaves, just constant full on lying and elaborate fantasies.

So if you know one (or you are one) why do they do it?

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Hied · 01/07/2022 23:46

If I lived my life again, I think I'd like to do psychology just to study these people.

I really really can't understand them. I can't understand their motivation.

I mean I can understand someone lying about being in a better job or having more money etc because of self-esteem problems.

But the downright Pathological Liars, absolutely fascinate me!

I have a family member like this, and every time she opens her mouth it's a just a stream of lies. It's such a shame as she's a really lovely person, or could be if she didn't talk such shit.

I also worked with a person who'd lived with all these famous people, MPs, actors you name it, she'd lived with them. It took us a few months to realise we'd all been thinking the same thing, that she was lying through her teeth.

She even went on holiday to an unusual location, say Tibet. She brought the travel money in to show us. We all believed her and thought she was very brave going by herself.

She posted loads of pics on Insta (none with her in) which I reversed imaged .... of course they weren't her pictures.

The weirdest thing ever. She lived near where we worked too, she must have hidden in her flat the whole 10 days.

She also had a dying mum, dying dog ... you name it, it was dying.

ticketyboom · 01/07/2022 23:48

Eeksteek · 01/07/2022 21:32

It’s very common for people with ADHD to lie in this manner. It’s a sort of not being able to suppress the ‘wouldn’t it be fabulous if it HAD happened like that ‘ impulse we all have and learn to keep a lid on, and not knowing what’s NT and trying to emulate it poorly to mask ADHD.

it’s still annoying. You are understandably irked, but what can you do?

No it isn't. Have you ever seen a screening assessment for ADHD? Compulsive lying isn't anywhere in it. At all. How strange of you to pin this on ND people.

Vikinga · 01/07/2022 23:49

TooManyAnimals94 · 01/07/2022 21:18

I genuinely find it hard to do my job when she constantly talks at me about things that aren't true. Luckily she's a freelancer who mainly covers illness and holiday so I don't see her often but I've done today and I know she's in tomorrow and I'm just dreading it.
It also makes her untrustworthy. I don't like leaving her to do things alone because if something went wrong she would probably lie and cover it up.

So then speak to the person who hires her. Is your job that important and does she not do her job properly? I still fail to see what the big problem is...other than someone being gossipy and wanting to seem better

ILikeHotWaterBottles · 01/07/2022 23:49

These people are brilliant though! When they aren't obviously talking about dead people and cancer...

The shit they come out with is so funny. It's hard not to laugh when they talk at all, as you just know not one word is the truth. But they are funny, it's a shame they don't realise they are being laughed at, too stupid I guess.

FriedTomatoe · 01/07/2022 23:51

It's a bit of a mental health issue really isn't it?

I've known people who have claimed multiple allergies - what they actually have is an eating disorder. People who are always saying how accomplished they are, are usually trying to hide something about themselves. If they were to be confronted with the truth of themselves they would probably break down.

JubileeTrifle · 01/07/2022 23:51

DD has a friend who constantly lies about everything. Her mum just brushed it away when she does it in front of her.
Its always silly things that DD doesn’t really pick up on. Last week she was saying she needed have blood tests so they took the blood from each of her legs, arms and both hands. Then she told me she had babysit a 3 day old baby overnight. Total rubbish, was hoping by the age of 13 she would have outgrown it.

Foreverfrustrated · 01/07/2022 23:56

@TooManyAnimals94 don't suppose this person's initials are FT are they?
If they are believe NOTHING!!

QuandaleDingle · 02/07/2022 00:01

Ha ha I used to know someone who swore blind she was allergic to pepper, it was such bollocks as she regularly ate things that clearly had pepper in like pizzas etc. And so bizarre that she'd lie about it, just pure attention seeking

Actupfishy · 02/07/2022 00:05

I had a very strange friend once that tried to convince us that her true job was running multiple brothels, even though I had met her on several conferences she had been on for her very run of the mill job.

I think she read too many Martina Cole books

SillySausage25 · 02/07/2022 00:15

I get ya OP. I also cannot stand a Billy Bullshitter. I also work with one day in and day out and it ends up driving you insane. Bullshitters are particularly nasty creatures in an office environment and wreak havoc in a well functioning team. They can't be trusted, need copious amounts of attention and sulk like babies when caught out.

IDreamOfTheMoors · 02/07/2022 00:17

I know someone who for years said, “yeah, I knew a bunch of guys who died in Vietnam.”
COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

I listened to this lie over & over for literal years until finally I blurted out, ”name ONE.” We knew all the same people.

They sputtered around, and ended up saying they were all from university, where I didn’t know their friends.

My comeback: “You were at university for less than a year.”
I don’t think they ever gave up on that one.

The OTHER BULLSHIT I hate is people who re-write history to make themselves out to either be the victim or the perfect person.

QuandaleDingle · 02/07/2022 00:20

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ashitghost · 02/07/2022 00:21

Yeah we had one like this where I work:

he was late in because his house had been bombed by the IRA. The next day he received a letter of apology from them

his younger child had managed to get on his laptop and order every item of Lego that AMAZON had in stock and a huge lorry turned up to his house and dumped tonnes of Lego on his drive

same child was so impressive in his school nativity that he was scouted by some kind of agent and he was then doing this one child nativity show in the west end

other child had written to the Cats Protection so movingly about wanting a cat that they said she was the first person to ever be given a cat without a home visit and one just arrived

he’d been involved in a bidding war with Tesco for some kind of invention and he’d won

SirenSays · 02/07/2022 00:24

My SIL does this all the time about the most random things. I've caught her out numerous times and accidentally outed her when she's lied to other people.

TooManyAnimals94 · 02/07/2022 00:26

Vikinga · 01/07/2022 23:49

So then speak to the person who hires her. Is your job that important and does she not do her job properly? I still fail to see what the big problem is...other than someone being gossipy and wanting to seem better

It just makes the day so much more stressful than it needs to be.
And we work with children and animals so yes, important that you can trust her not to do or say stupid things.

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TooManyAnimals94 · 02/07/2022 00:31

So the cream lie is looking really tame now compared to some of these!
She also apparently had to be airlifted off a mountain during her gold DofE and somehow the SAS were involved?
I feel a bit sad for these people but overall more annoyed than sad.

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leafyone · 02/07/2022 00:36

Furrbabymama1987 · 01/07/2022 20:54

I have a friend who for the past 2 years has told me she's being investigated for cancer. Nothing she says adds up. I know people who have cancer and they tell me she's lying. Apparently she found a breast lump 2 years ago and has had scans and a biopsy, she keeps going for appointments but they don't know if its cancer or not. Then she had skin cancer that was treated with an operation, I said I'm so glad you're doing well and she said well actually I've probably got breast cancer. I hate to doubt people but she's lied about other things in the past and when I ask questions she changes the subject.

It's disgusting people take serious illness. I know of someone who did this but with a brain tumour. Why do they do it! Something very wrong there.

Fucking bullshit, but not challenged by people in case they were wrong. And I played along with it too. This person must have researched the symptoms and mimicked them, but the symptoms never appeared unless they were drunk.

leafyone · 02/07/2022 00:36

Fake not take serious illness.

Bestshapeever · 02/07/2022 00:36

HollowTalk

Lequeen? Yes utterly baffling but sort of less so on an anonymous forum although I believe she was outed. Pictures of her wedding and kitchen on here! Mind you there were probably only about 26 posters on here back then, must have been 15/16 years ago? Cannot imagine how anyone could do it in RL and expect to get away with it

leafyone · 02/07/2022 00:38

Most of all I hate the bloody insult to your intelligence that they think you believe them.

I'm just about to read the thread but I bet that can be applied to most examples here.

Oceanus · 02/07/2022 00:45

@Furrbabymama1987 Lying about having a serious illness is bloody unforgivable, specially they're getting advantages out of it. I would got nuts if I knew sb like that and I'd tell this world and the next about that lie. There are lies and there are lies. Most I just ignore, I ask myself why but I don't dwell on it, unless it personally becomes a problem but lying about having cancer is a one way ticket to hell. 😡

MolkosTeenageAngst · 02/07/2022 00:48

Eeksteek · 01/07/2022 21:32

It’s very common for people with ADHD to lie in this manner. It’s a sort of not being able to suppress the ‘wouldn’t it be fabulous if it HAD happened like that ‘ impulse we all have and learn to keep a lid on, and not knowing what’s NT and trying to emulate it poorly to mask ADHD.

it’s still annoying. You are understandably irked, but what can you do?

This is really interesting, I wouldn’t call myself a bullshitter but there are time I have spontaneously told a complete lie in social situations and then afterwards thought, why the fuck did I lie about that? Often relatively mundane but believable things, so for example if talking about a band I like I might suddenly say I’ve seen them live when really I haven’t or I might say I’ve been somewhere on holiday somewhere three times when I’ve only been once. Often the lies are based on some kind of truth, so for example I nearly bought tickets to see the band or nearly went back there on holiday etc but didn’t get round to it, maybe they’re things I would have liked to happen but that didn’t. I wouldn’t say I lie very often at all and it’s never planned but sometimes these things just come out and I always regret saying it afterwards but it’s hard to take these things back once you’ve spontaneously said them! I have suspected I have ADHD for a while now and so it’s interesting that this could be a part of that.

apparentl · 02/07/2022 00:49

Someone who was obsessed with the police. First pretending they were a criminal psychologist, and told everyone, not very discreet about her 'cases'. They'd never been to university and couldn't string a sentence together.
Twice told us she joined the police at entry level, (forgot she told us once already the year before), and probably a lower pay grade than the previous psychologist job.

Pretended to be related to famous people and had attended boarding school in different countries. In reality background was impoverished with single mother and UK state schools. Boasted about money but was a single parent in minimum wage jobs.

A few of us have had a good laugh about it as a coping mechanism, though we feel sorry for her. Nobody believes a word she says obviously.

Neverendingdust · 02/07/2022 00:56

I have a very very close relative who does this. Whatever, wherever, whoever it is I’m talking about she’s done the same only better. It’s embarrassing for me because DP picks up on it instantly, you can guarantee it will happen whenever we see each other.

I think it’s an insecurity thing for some people, they mask their own issues with such fantastical stories they get lost between fantasy and reality.

TooManyAnimals94 · 02/07/2022 07:17

MolkosTeenageAngst · 02/07/2022 00:48

This is really interesting, I wouldn’t call myself a bullshitter but there are time I have spontaneously told a complete lie in social situations and then afterwards thought, why the fuck did I lie about that? Often relatively mundane but believable things, so for example if talking about a band I like I might suddenly say I’ve seen them live when really I haven’t or I might say I’ve been somewhere on holiday somewhere three times when I’ve only been once. Often the lies are based on some kind of truth, so for example I nearly bought tickets to see the band or nearly went back there on holiday etc but didn’t get round to it, maybe they’re things I would have liked to happen but that didn’t. I wouldn’t say I lie very often at all and it’s never planned but sometimes these things just come out and I always regret saying it afterwards but it’s hard to take these things back once you’ve spontaneously said them! I have suspected I have ADHD for a while now and so it’s interesting that this could be a part of that.

That's not what you woukd call yourself but you totally are!
Do people believe you when you tell these stories? How do you respond to further questions about the concert you never went to?

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