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To be wth - letting agent advice please

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whyarepeoplesobananas · 01/07/2022 14:25

Need some advice on this to see if it's as weird/unprofessional as I think.

No hot water last night, boiler well and truly gone, ok not great two DC's under 4. Letting agent has an online reporting tool so nothing to do but log and call in the morning. Which we did.

When we clicked the issue on the digital tool a pop up tells us to continue reporting on there but for this problem to also call the emergency line, I mean in my head it's v urgent but not an emergency as summer. Called twice no answer.
Gets an auto-response from agent saying that this problem (heating and hot water) is classified as urgent and that they will attempt to deal with urgent queries in 3 working days.

We were a little eeekkkk, what does that mean, have someone out or just respond, being Thurs eve we were a little panicky and the thought of it not being dealt with until the start of next wk - we have nowhere to go as the three people we could ask have covid!!! I called the emergency no again and left a vm saying we've just received this email, if someone receives this tonight I'd appreciate a quick call or text just confirming that 3 days won’t be the case and stop me panicking I was nice and jokey about it.

45 min later nothing, and as we have a really good (small city) FB page I thought I would ask on there to set my mind at rest;
"Does anyone rent with xxxx and has had experience of no hot water/heating, and their xxxx online reporting system? We reported the problem via xxx but have received a response back saying this has been categorised as urgent - it then lists all the urgent issues (emergency issues above this are basically major structural problems). And that they will aim to deal with the issue within 3 working days of the issue being reported.

I'm not sure what deal means, but I'm taking from this it could be into next week before its resolved given it's Friday tomorrow😅😱. Surely this can't isn't right, is it? I was thinking there would be some kind of 24hr call out for boiler issues??"
We're all just recovering from covid, DC have conjunctivitis and just wanted some reassurance before I went to bed that I wouldn't be waiting 3 days. I haven't rented since 2007 so have no idea what is to be expected.

Fast forward to this morning they email DH to say someone organised for today, great, they then followed up with call to confirm - I picked up, I was bright and breezy on the phone and like oh thank god, thank you, yes seen email etc. and was about to say we were panicking as your online thing says the above, but, to say the agent was being aggressive was an understatement, I thought DH had maybe complained this morning or there'd been some kind of altercation and he'd not said, so I said sorry is there a problem do you need me to get DH, when they exploded at me, not in volume more tone IYKWIM. How they would have expected me to come directly to them if there was a problem, how disappointed she was in me, at which point i was like I'm sorry what, they then proceeded to to tell me how they were members of the facebook group and they had seen the post last night and they were really hurt (they sounded more angry but ok) that we were complaining on there and we thought they wouldn't fix the problem they always fix problems like that in 24 hrs, so I was like, whoa, well if you've seen the post you'll know I was talking about your reporting platform and the message generated from that, which distinctly does not say 24hrs it says 3 working days!!!

She then said “well that's what the emergency phone number is for you should have called that as per the tenancy agreement....."we did, 3 times, left two messages one asking the exact question I put on facebook. No one ever got back." Her response was to shut me down and say "we can go round and round on this I don't think there's anything more to say". I was just completely baffled and kept saying what, sorry, I then said look I'm not sure what's happening here...." at which point she slammed and I mean slammed the phone down.

I just feel hair dryer'ed and I do not appreciate that, I mean this is unprofessional right.? Also feel a little spied also who is she to tell me what I can post on Facebook.....I looked at the member list and none of the lettings team are members of that group.

DH has emailed the branch manager asking them to call him - emailed back saying they are on leave today and can't call.....picking up emails and no out of office though 🤔

OP posts:
LittleBrenda · 02/07/2022 11:50

Happyhappyday · 02/07/2022 05:32

Also I believe landlords have 24 hours to repair boilers legally so I’d also be blood furious to have got an automated messsge saying they’d do their best in 3 working days FFS!

Do you live in PontyPandy where Fireman Sam comes out of you get your kite stuck in a tree?

SavoyCabbage · 02/07/2022 11:52

It’s not cutting off my nose. When I’m paying for a service I expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service. I’m not paying to be treated like crap and I’ll happily vote with my feet.

It was FORTY FIVE minutes later! At night. The letting agents aren't a concierge desk at a five star hotel.

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 11:59

It’s not cutting off my nose. When I’m paying for a service I expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service. I’m not paying to be treated like crap and I’ll happily vote with my feet.

Yeah moving costs

Finding a new deposit before the other one is returned

Upheaval for everyone

You're happy where you are but due to a minor miscommunication you'd go through all that hassle!

How would you guarantee that the next letting agent would 100% act differently?

Good luck with an attitude like that, it'll cost you a fortune!

SpaghettiArmsMurderer · 02/07/2022 12:01

SavoyCabbage · 02/07/2022 11:52

It’s not cutting off my nose. When I’m paying for a service I expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service. I’m not paying to be treated like crap and I’ll happily vote with my feet.

It was FORTY FIVE minutes later! At night. The letting agents aren't a concierge desk at a five star hotel.

I said if I was spoken to like that I’d be looking to move - not that I would if they didn’t send a plumber immediately (although everywhere I’ve rented has always sent someone within 24h for boiler issues). There’s no excuse for the agent speaking to customers like she did.

SavoyCabbage · 02/07/2022 12:04

You said that if you were paying for a service you would expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service.

SpaghettiArmsMurderer · 02/07/2022 12:05

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 11:59

It’s not cutting off my nose. When I’m paying for a service I expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service. I’m not paying to be treated like crap and I’ll happily vote with my feet.

Yeah moving costs

Finding a new deposit before the other one is returned

Upheaval for everyone

You're happy where you are but due to a minor miscommunication you'd go through all that hassle!

How would you guarantee that the next letting agent would 100% act differently?

Good luck with an attitude like that, it'll cost you a fortune!

I mean, the agent sounds like a psycho so you can assume anyone normal would not act like that. The agent is clearly more concerned with their reputation than actually serving their tenants. This isn’t a minor miscommunication, it’s them showing their true colours. What if there was an actual emergency? They would be uncontactable, useless and blame you- er no thanks.

SpaghettiArmsMurderer · 02/07/2022 12:06

SavoyCabbage · 02/07/2022 12:04

You said that if you were paying for a service you would expect to actually receive a reasonable level of service.

Yes, as in customer service. How you deal with customers.

whyarepeoplesobananas · 02/07/2022 12:13

@SavoyCabbage she was means how the agent spoke and dealt with me yesterday, not the length of time expected to fix the boiler. A reasonable level of service extended to being dealt with politely and professionally not phoning a client to go absolutely tonto and shout at them down the phone.

People are focusing on the emergency no, that's not the issue, I never would have rung it if not instructed to by them. I knew I wasn't going to get a response from them at that point, I'd have phoned back if so would be I, that's why I asked for others' experience on Facebook.

OP posts:
Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:23

@whyarepeoplesobananas

I don't think youre being unreasonable at all. In your situation the 3 days would worry me too. Your message on fb was clearly just asking for others experiences. The letting agent was unprofessionally and seems to think there's some type of personal relationship here. Renting with the letting agents is a business transaction, and requires

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:26

Sent to early!

The right to do would be to reply on fb to apologise for any harm done and to inform you they will be contacting you to sort. This would be professional. Plus would save face for them which is obviously what they're pissed about.

I hope you get everything sorted soon!

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:27

Bloody hate the 'you've hurt our feelings bullshit' manipulation much?

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:29

@tomatopsste

Your response justifies exactly why many letting agents treat they're tenants like shit.

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 12:30

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:29

@tomatopsste

Your response justifies exactly why many letting agents treat they're tenants like shit.

But it's true!

Would you really do all that due to a minor misunderstanding ?

References, statements blah blah!

It's life!

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:31

@whyarepeoplesobananas

Theirs not many benefits to renting. Expecting prompt resolution of problems IS however one of them.

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:33

@tomatopsste

The power play is nauseating. There is a very good reason letting agents have a terrible reputation. OP has done nothing wrong IMO.

Stressybetty · 02/07/2022 12:36

It's summer, how is having no heating or hot water an inconvenience? Boil a kettle! We've lived 2 years with a broken boiler in a house we are renovating. If you have an electric shower and it's not winter it's fine!

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:37

Ironically the letting agents could have actually helped their reputation here. By replying on fb with an apology and how they are going to rectify would show professionalism. As it is they're response demonstrates a power play where the tenant is treated like shit because they dare to come out they're line.

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 12:39

@Stressybetty

Because OP is paying to live in a house with a boiler. She's likely paying more to rent than if she owned the house, because of the service required if things go wrong. Im gobsmacked you can't see that.

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 13:02

@Sparklybutold what do you mean by power play?

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 13:31

@tomatopsste

For me the power play is being perpetrated by the EA. In her mind the tenant has gone out of her lines and the EAs call to her was in such a way to re-exert her unconscious power position which she feels the tenant has challenged.

'You've hurt my feelings?' Reeks of manipulation and a tactic to re-exert her own power to try and make the OP feel guilty - which in a way has worked because of this post.

Again OP you have done nothing wrong.

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 13:59

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 13:31

@tomatopsste

For me the power play is being perpetrated by the EA. In her mind the tenant has gone out of her lines and the EAs call to her was in such a way to re-exert her unconscious power position which she feels the tenant has challenged.

'You've hurt my feelings?' Reeks of manipulation and a tactic to re-exert her own power to try and make the OP feel guilty - which in a way has worked because of this post.

Again OP you have done nothing wrong.

I do not think it's that contrived, I think the agent basically just got the hump!

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 14:07

@tomatopsste
I find the influence and inclusion of power tends to be at the heart of lots of interactions. When this is compromised in anyway - issues arise.

JustLyra · 02/07/2022 14:08

I think the agent basically just got the hump!

professional people shouldn’t act like that when they get the hump.

it’s ridiculous how many people are excusing the unprofessional way they handled it - complaining about being hurt and slamming the phone down?!

tomatopsste · 02/07/2022 14:21

Sparklybutold · 02/07/2022 14:07

@tomatopsste
I find the influence and inclusion of power tends to be at the heart of lots of interactions. When this is compromised in anyway - issues arise.

Ok

Crazykatie · 02/07/2022 14:43

We have a couple of tenants, they pay us hundreds of pounds a month and they certainly don’t get disrespected, if there is a problem it gets fixed same day if possible. It’s been 10 yrs since we had bad tenants, we have been much more careful who we accept, further back several bad decisions; taught us who to avoid.

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