Who should pay for the name transfer?

[Lunar27]

My daughter has been asked if she'd like to take the place of someone who's dropped out of a group holiday abroad.

Initially it was going to cost about £300 and is what everyone has paid. However, she's now been told that she also needs to pay another £160 to transfer her name to the pre booked flight.

If she doesn't go, the organiser will lose £300 so I'm thinking it's a bit unfair to put the entire cost on her, when the fault lies with the person who dropped out. But conversely I appreciate that someone will have to pay.

It also seems a bit steep when this typically costs about £50 so am wondering if her mates are taking the mick.

She originally wasn't going as she was in a relationship and was doing other stuff but they've since split.

What's the thinking behind splitting it? Why should the others have to pay anything, it makes no difference to them if the oiginal person doesn't turn up, they carry on and have their holiday just the same

I don't get that at all

Presumably the £300 covers shared accommodation etc. if OP’s dd doesn’t take it up the others will need to cover the shortfall?

(it doesn't look like the dropout can afford the extra cost)

But the drop out will get their £300 back and the only cost to them will be the £160 change fee? If they don't pay this the drop out will be £300 down not £160 down!

Your DD definitely should not pay the extra. She’s doing them a favour to join at all so the original person doesn’t lose all their costs. That person should cover the name change and be glad that they at least recover some of their money.

Surely the sensible plan would be for you DD to give £300 to the organiser. The organiser pays £160 to the company to transfer the name and £140 to the drop out as a part refund. It's better than the drop out losing the £300, which is what would happen if your DD doesn't take her place.

No way would I want to pay more because someone has dropped out, either the drop out pays for the change & DD pays £300 or your DD shouldn't do

Ah, so it transpires that the dropout never paid a bloody penny, and the organiser is STILL waiting for payment from a few people. What a crap show.

It seems the organiser stumped up the whole thing (mum and dad it appears), is out of pocket currently and trying to recover some cost.

I can't believe my mate just let his daughter try and arrange a massive group holiday without overseeing it 🤦🤷. It looks like they never even got deposits from anyone. Wtf!

How some people survive in life is beyond me.

Does anyone else have this thing with teenage kids where information drips out slowly. It's like you get nuggets of information because they know something isn't quite right. But they don't want to tell you because deep down they know what you're going to say.

I feel like I'm doing it in this thread but I'm literally finding out how chaotic this is on a daily basis!

It sounds like the whole trip could fall apart. Your dd definitely doesn't owe the change fee. She is saving them all money by talking the place.

Op, I would tell my daughter to back away slowly. If some of the others haven't even paid a deposit they might not pay at all but still go. If your daughter pays for the holiday AND transfer she will have mug stamped across her face and they might start guilttripping her 5o pay for meals and drinks over there.

Its a right shit show caused by a supposed adult (your friend) not overseeing a young adults first foray into financial stuff with others. It will only get worse. What a pity, it could have been such fun for them all.

Yup.

So the parents paid everyone's fee without securing deposits? Even with adults that's a bit of a risk. No way would I book and pay for anything expensive unless I had everyone's deposit or full cost if non refundable. People can be very flakey. Sounds like the person who cancelled won't even pay. The parents who organised it should pay in this case. And I would encourage my child not to go tbh.

Retreat.

Charging your daughter extra to ‘recover costs’ from others who aren’t paying? Stuff that.

Up to the organisation's parents to withinthe losses for being daft. Let her know it's ok to offer £300 they can take or leave.

Ugh, auto-incorrect!

Up to the organiser's parents to suck up the losses for being daft. Let her know it's ok to offer £300 they can take or leave.

Can't your DD just book herself a new ticket for £300 and not get involved in the debacle?

Surely talking about that would make them see sense?

DD: I will book myself a ticket, it's £300
Friend: No, you can't! You need to pay me £460 for the same ticket.
DD: 🙄

Could she book flights herself in her own name? Worth looking up to compare costs, might make the drop out / group re think asking her to pay the £300 plus £160.