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AIBU?

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AIBU to interfere in this and report it?

36 replies

PurpleTreesAndPineapples · 29/06/2022 11:40

I've got a dilemma and I'm not sure if I'm too close to this to make a rational judgement call. I also am a SW - although I've never worked in CP apart from uni placements years ago. I also had a childhood where I ended up in care so feel Very strongly about children being left with shit parents. I don't know whether to report or not.

My ex husband has a child with a woman, they weren't together, it was a fling. Ever since they've been in conflict, the child is now 9. He rings me for advice and I did give him advice from a CP colleague last year on how to go about having his son full-time. He didn't take it. The poor boy has quite a few issues with anxiety, he has (without a diagnosis but I am quite experienced in this) attachment difficulties and my ex husband has put a lot of his own anxieties on to him.

His son does, imo, play both parents off of each other. The mum has headbutted my ex on one occasion where his son said some untrue things about my ex. The boy has also made up things that my ex husband automatically believes - things like he didn't get any Christmas presents when he had lots. I think, he makes up things because either he feels sad and doesn't know how to express it, or he gets positive attention from either parent. He's a very confused little boy who has been the competition prize for many years. He's also very bright.

Ex husband is feeling very worried about his son. His son is telling him things that his mum is doing, such as shouting at him, shouting at others in the street and getting so worked up she was hitting herself and screaming, whilst the boy was terrified and crying. Apparently she keeps shouting at their son telling him to live with his dad. Other times she tells their son that his dad doesn't love him and really goes in on him. She is now living with an alcoholic who she hasn't known very long. Their son is having nightmares and won't be alone, ex husband has to follow him to the toilet, stand in the bathroom whilst he showers, he sleeps on a fold out bed in ex husbands bedroom and they go to bed at the same time.

There have been numerous incidents over the years with police and SS involvement, althought they speak to mum and close the case. They've never spoken to ex husband, even when the police have been involved (neighbours rang the police because they were outside arguing and she was trying to drag the boy back in her house and exh was there to pick him up for contact).

I don't think it warrents enough for a CP plan but yet their little boy is damaged by it all. I don't think either of them have helped the situation and I can't really understand why ex husband didn't take advice given last year and now it's just got worse. I do feel like I want to report this, it's not good parenting. Imagine watching your mum going ballistic and hitting herself whilst screaming at someone else? It's damaging. I'm also tempted to ring her and ask if she needs some support because it sounds like she isn't coping very well. Is this worth me getting involved and the shit storm that will insue after?

AIBU to get involved?

OP posts:
stayingpositiveifpossible · 29/06/2022 14:56

have you showed your ex husband and his partner this thread?

I think you should.

You are just about to potentially wreak utter havoc in someone else's life.

I feel at minimum they should know how you feel!

PurpleTreesAndPineapples · 29/06/2022 15:06

Argh @stayingpositiveifpossible no I haven't told his mum but did tell ex husband. He's not happy and said he will report me if I do this, although I'm not really concerned about malicious reports that won't go anywhere as my dc are well looked after. Fairly used to complaints in my job.

I have talked myself out of it with the scaling question and then retalked myself back into it by thinking 5 isn't good enough and I'd have protected my own dc if they were ever a 5.

OP posts:
Schmz · 29/06/2022 15:12

Stop dithering back and forth and stick to your earlier decision to discuss it in supervision-
blimey !!

stayingpositiveifpossible · 29/06/2022 15:14

Yes. Blimey. Not sure how I would feel if I had a social worker who was posting on mumsnet. What happened to client confidentiality?

PurpleTreesAndPineapples · 29/06/2022 15:17

He's not my client! He's my ex husbands child...

If I was dithering about a YP on my caseload I'd discuss it in supervision. This isn't the same thing at all.

OP posts:
Schmz · 29/06/2022 15:19

stayingpositiveifpossible · 29/06/2022 15:14

Yes. Blimey. Not sure how I would feel if I had a social worker who was posting on mumsnet. What happened to client confidentiality?

Well she’s discussing a case In her personal life, not professional, but she really isn’t doing social workers any favours by showing such naivety regarding safeguarding children
it’s bonkers !!!

it’s hard to make out what OP is actually seeking, but my best guess is she is looking for permission to do nothing, when her gut is telling her somethings not right with this child ….
and just going round in circles - so I’m getting off this thread / sad merry go round

stayingpositiveifpossible · 29/06/2022 15:39

PurpleTreesAndPineapples · 29/06/2022 15:17

He's not my client! He's my ex husbands child...

If I was dithering about a YP on my caseload I'd discuss it in supervision. This isn't the same thing at all.

Every single member of the public has a safeguarding responsibility.

Where is yours?

stayingpositiveifpossible · 29/06/2022 15:40

Me too getting off this thread.
On YOUR conscience OP.

girlmom21 · 29/06/2022 15:48

Why is this situation going to impact you?
You know they're never going to sit down together and decide what's right for their son because they're both shitty parents.

I'd report them and distance yourself from your exH. He's watching his child being abused and waiting for him to beg for help before he does anything about it.

LetitiaLeghorn · 29/06/2022 15:51

I understand that all the general public have some sort of moral duty to report but as a SW aren't you a mandated reporter? Sorry if that's not right.

Put it this way, if a member of the public had the details you had, unconfirmed or not, would you, in your work capacity, expect or want them to report it? Or would your advice be to do nothing? I guess whichever of these is true is the advice you should give to yourself.

CPL593H · 29/06/2022 21:15

I can't believe you're still handwringing over this OP. I'd been thinking that you were in an adult team but you're LAC? I don't believe that all this is some kind of foreign country to you. The one thing you've got right is that you are too close to this to judge it properly, hence why it needs to be reported to be investigated by people who can make more objective decisions. It is not for you to score or analyse.

Look at it this way. If things got worse for this unhappy little boy (God forbid) your weak kneed ex would be front of the queue telling everyone that "PurpleTreesAndPineapples knew all about it but didn't do anything". You know (at least you should) where that will lead.

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